Thread: Burning the world tree: Freeps and Creeps of Laurelin

Originally Posted by MrWarg

Ola All!

Your friendly neighbourhood warg here. Whilst I'm sure many of you consider wargs to be a pain in the &&&& we could be of service here in setting up patrols to watch out for fight clubbers. I could see about having a word with the other wargs and making sure we keep our eyes open for them. It will be much harder for them to evade us than the visibles.

You, sir, made my day.

Ola Mr Warg!

Ola Lupu!!!

Nice to see you back Lupu, don't be too bad with me, I am a poor old Man!!!!


*Cheers* And nice catch Ketth, fight clubbers xD....There may be creeps fightclubbing as well....Too many people ranking way too fast

Just a heads up for all the freeps out there, from now on Invictus will be out in full force every Sunday at 6pm CET (5pm GMT).

A couple of us have some audacity stuff to catch up on, but I suggest you guys organize yourselves or these Sundays are gonna be pretty damn short!

Hopefully we can get some nice fights going.

Originally Posted by Garathas

Just a heads up for all the freeps out there, from now on Invictus will be out in full force every Sunday at 6pm CET (5pm GMT).

A couple of us have some audacity stuff to catch up on, but I suggest you guys organize yourselves or these Sundays are gonna be pretty damn short!

Hopefully we can get some nice fights going.

Hopefully I should have my burg up and running by then . yay! back to PvP Sundays, nice one.

Originally Posted by Garathas

Just a heads up for all the freeps out there, from now on Invictus will be out in full force every Sunday at 6pm CET (5pm GMT).

A couple of us have some audacity stuff to catch up on, but I suggest you guys organize yourselves or these Sundays are gonna be pretty damn short!

Hopefully we can get some nice fights going.

Geez, when are Turbine going to sort out the bug with the sigs?!?! You're still showing up as Rank 9 Gruk!!!

Originally Posted by Grolmog

Geez, when are Turbine going to sort out the bug with the sigs?!?! You're still showing up as Rank 9 Gruk!!!

I think Turbine should focus on solving that massive lag...

Originally Posted by Gordinion

I think Turbine should focus on solving that massive lag...

No way! They have to put all their effort into creating the new warhorse costumes soon to be available in the Lotro store.....

Originally Posted by Gorgilh

Ola Lupu!!!

Nice to see you back Lupu, don't be too bad with me, I am a poor old Man!!!!


*Cheers* ....Too many people ranking way too fast

Nice to see you Cazi, I'm not that bad, I just need lots of commendations for last 5 ranks of audacity, thing which ain't that easy to earn when not playing on evenings/nights, thing which ain't that easy to earn when there's only bunch of lamers running in groups & hugging what ever they can.
Since I'm only solo ain't that easy do deal with lamers only if you're much lame than all of them togheter.
I miss the old days when Ettens had soloers here & there but nowadays when I log in the thing called 'action' makes me QQ, rage quit & delete my pupp.
ALL what you both sides want is to farm your commendations/ranks no matter what...you people make me sad

Originally Posted by Gutterat

No way! They have to put all their effort into creating the new warhorse costumes soon to be available in the Lotro store.....

Nope, they should focus on rechecking bosses and stuff in GA...

Originally Posted by Aarus

Nice to see you Cazi, I'm not that bad, I just need lots of commendations for last 5 ranks of audacity, thing which ain't that easy to earn when not playing on evenings/nights, thing which ain't that easy to earn when there's only bunch of lamers running in groups & hugging what ever they can.
Since I'm only solo ain't that easy do deal with lamers only if you're much lame than all of them togheter.
I miss the old days when Ettens had soloers here & there but nowadays when I log in the thing called 'action' makes me QQ, rage quit & delete my pupp.
ALL what you both sides want is to farm your commendations/ranks no matter what...you people make me sad

Yep, I kinda agree, You can still go solo thought , You are a puppie !.


This is not easy at all to go solo anymore Lupu, there are many fotm defilers, spiders and so scouting around, not a safety world! But if you see me, feel free to jump so I know you want a spar! I'll warn you, My meat is not fresh, there are freeps who taste better!!

Recently returned from a break from the game. Decided to play on spider after being bored of spamming water lore 24/7 on Loremaster just wanted to say thanks for the 1vs1 felix and others etc and no hard feelings meant at you grothum questers . Camping grothum in the mornings after 9 is proven to be good infamy and mark my words no mercy will be given if i spot someone in grothum its pvp after all.

oh and


A new rp oriented tribe has been formed! - "A Menacing Threat"
We will be serving Sauron at all costs! No mercy will be given regarding the free peoples of midle earth, however respect will be shown if a freep chooses to challenge one of us in a spar. We are ofcourse fully confident we can slaughter any freep solo Anyone is welcome to join as long as our willing to give your life for the Great eye!

Originally Posted by Tinto

Recently returned from a break from the game. Decided to play on spider after being bored of spamming water lore 24/7 on Loremaster just wanted to say thanks for the 1vs1 felix and others etc and no hard feelings meant at you grothum questers . Camping grothum in the mornings after 9 is proven to be good infamy and mark my words no mercy will be given if i spot someone in grothum its pvp after all.

oh and


A new rp oriented tribe has been formed! - "A Menacing Threat"
We will be serving Sauron at all costs! No mercy will be given regarding the free peoples of midle earth, however respect will be shown if a freep chooses to challenge one of us in a spar. We are ofcourse fully confident we can slaughter any freep solo Anyone is welcome to join as long as our willing to give your life for the Great eye!

Worst news possible for Ettens! Dont event want to imagine what you are capable of on spider.

Originally Posted by Tinto

Recently returned from a break from the game. Decided to play on spider after being bored of spamming water lore 24/7 on Loremaster just wanted to say thanks for the 1vs1 felix and others etc and no hard feelings meant at you grothum questers . Camping grothum in the mornings after 9 is proven to be good infamy and mark my words no mercy will be given if i spot someone in grothum its pvp after all.

Welcome back mate

i notice now you was this op spider... :P

I fought with you, and now against you, but anyway my pleasure.

Ok Spiderfest love-in event Sunday. jeeez.....

Originally Posted by Remorl

Welcome back mate

i notice now you was this op spider... :P

I fought with you, and now against you, but anyway my pleasure.

Felix, you deserve a +Rep because your avatar!!!!


Raun Gonzalez right? A Real Madrid fan here as well =P.





Nice fights the Last Days-(Better than expected)- We are trying to run small groups around and all I can say is that we are having fun .

Love your wifes as much as you can, love your Husbands as well you dear women-Once I am back at full strenght....there won't be tomorrow! -I challenge you Brogga!-...

Good fights, looking to have more fights this afternoon!

"Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken" (Tyler Durden, Fightclub 1999).

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WORDS, Sigh at FOTM(Players).

This is quite sad to see TRUE creeps playing freepside such as Trin-Morthal ( Not anymore thought ) Even Brunt, Grimmclaw and some others. And FOTM players playing creepside such as....I won't put out names, It doesn't matter at all, Once SPIDERS and Defilers are nerfed, we will see half of them.

Yea Morgo, you are able to hug KD because spider's status, I don't wonder why your hunter nowadays, its harder and more challenging, the last times I've logged to Gorgilh, I feel ridicolous fighting freeps, this is a faceroll mode.


Let's see if half of the creeps we have atm stay on CREEP once their classes are nerfed.


*Note that I didn't mention Hunters Brunt, that's for you!*

Originally Posted by Gorgilh

WORDS, Sigh at FOTM(Players).

This is quite sad to see TRUE creeps playing freepside such as Trin-Morthal ( Not anymore thought ) Even Brunt, Grimmclaw and some others. And FOTM players playing creepside such as....I won't put out names, It doesn't matter at all, Once SPIDERS and Defilers are nerfed, we will see half of them.

Yea Morgo, you are able to hug KD because spider's status, I don't wonder why your hunter nowadays, its harder and more challenging, the last times I've logged to Gorgilh, I feel ridicolous fighting freeps, this is a faceroll mode.


Let's see if half of the creeps we have atm stay on CREEP once their classes are nerfed.


*Note that I didn't mention Hunters Brunt, that's for you!*

No, what is really sad is lots of freeps won't play once it's not easy for them so these TRUE creeps who would normally play their mains have to switch to get some action going.

Playing a hunter in RoI wasn't faceroll, right? Shush.

Originally Posted by Ketth

No, what is really sad is lots of freeps won't play once it's not easy for them so these TRUE creeps who would normally play their mains have to switch to get some action going.

Playing a hunter in RoI wasn't faceroll, right? Shush.

Edit:

You became a leader NOW, you are an hypocrital then.

Freeps are trying harder than you believe. now that I am able to play again Im forming groups all the days, then I join raids when there are raids around.

Problem is that 80% of your creeps are FOTM players who will join the easy side.

Yea, Hunters were faceroll against greens, Burglar is and will always be worse , And you are not playing your burglar now,, as I said before, you became a leader....now.

Nuff said.

Originally Posted by Ketth

No, what is really sad is lots of freeps won't play once it's not easy for them

Well, surprisingly there are a lot of freeps out there.
Several nights we have had like 40+ freeps in the battlefield.

Anyway lag made RvsR fights just pointless in peak times, and I'm not very optimistic about incoming patch fixing this.

Originally Posted by Ketth

No, what is really sad is lots of freeps won't play once it's not easy for them so these TRUE creeps who would normally play their mains have to switch to get some action going.

Playing a hunter in RoI wasn't faceroll, right? Shush.

I'll start by saying this, even in RoI some freeps, won't say names, switched sides only cause one of you "good players" rolled a zerg. Now because of this system with renown/infamy and comms and because defilers and spiders are just faceroll, even more play creep side just for the easy mode. True, i haven't pvp'd much since RoR, but don't tell me that most of the people who switch to creep side, switch to get action... you're only lying to yourself there .

Oh, and about the hunters being OP in RoI... you are gravely mistaken. There were 3 hunters that were good solo in ettens, all others were just pew pew from behind, if they were attacked, they were dead. Player skill counts a lot, "leading" a zerg just to faceroll map, that doesn't require any skill, Ketth and Morgothel .

I want to apologize my outrage this morning on creep OOC. That was totally unneccessary and rude from me. I need to remember that in pvp zone the idea is to kill each others. Too bad the questing give some fair amount of renown in the mornings/daytime when not much action is going on. But think I'm gonna stay out of Grothum from now on. My apologies and I hope no-one has any grudge left.

Originally Posted by Gorgilh

Was it? I remember Brogga avoiding Hunters because they were too easy.

I also remember creeps having fun on how wasy to kill a hunter was .

I don't get your GO on me there Ketth, thought I usually understand your points, but you are absoluetly WRONG.


Etten is full of switchers and fotm new heros now, Morgothel for examlpe made r12, are you kidding me? My spider was r12 before he got to r5 on that char . -Also a lot of new creeps around.


You are wrong again, freeps do raids all the days, now that I am back because I can play Im forming groups ALL The days, I am fighting creeps and I see what we have around.
Grinadan is rolling raids ALL THE DAYS, Palinkir too.
Since when you or Morgo became leaders? Not before at least , So don't be such hypocrital, freeps are TRYING A LOT, I ( myself ) am trying a LOT, but if you form full raids, its impossible, we haven't that many good pvpers, most of the freeps right now are low rankeds, but hey, we try

Here we go again ketth don't get me wrong, burglars have bad times now, and you are on your reaver....smh. I have never seen that many spiders around, that many defilers.....I don't also see any HUNTER playing nowadays, you target me and I die next second.

Oh wait, Isn't a boring faceroll what creeps do with defilers nowadays? Oh wait, Did you try freep since RoR started? no.

You fooled yourself Ketth, GOOD JOB

Dude, all you can say is "You are wrong". The reason I don't play freep is I don't want to have anything to do with freepside. And if you say I haven't tried freep since RoR that's a BS. So get your facts straight, please, before letting it out. Grinadan and Palinkir making raids... don't make me laugh, try to compare the 2 hours of action a day we have nowadays (if we're lucky) and the full day action in RoI.

Since when me or Morgo became leaders? Since the moment it was necessary, you could take it as an example for yourself. And no, it wasn't in RoR.

And please, I have no go on you or whatever you call it. It's the ideas I can't agree with. I know it's a bit of blow for your ego you can't roflstomp every single creep going from a GY nowadays but what you say is clearly delusional. You may think you are some sort of hero that you play freepside nowadays, but the fact is RoR is there for a mere few months so far (not like creeps had this pain for more than 2 years and it will be the same with u10 again) and still I see you PvP'ing very rarely. All I see is this silly moaning on forums how creeps are OP, hunters weak etc. etc. but I have no illusions once freeps get OP we will see you playing daily again. So what about if you rather quit this silly qq because it's not leading anywhere and get your compadres playing even though it's so damn difficult (what as I've seen for myself it isn't) so they all don't look like complete ****** once u10 hits and they start playing regulary again.

Originally Posted by Ketth

Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla Bla and more bla bla from Ketth the true pvp HERO and player.

First, they actually try to fight so I don't want to make you *laugh*



Don't get me wrong, there are more switchers than creeps, and you are not a good example.

*NOW REMEMBER* Im could play weaver now that its a faceroll, I don't like it. And I don't think Im a sort of Hero, I have never said so, at least Im not a switcher.

When someone asks you why you hate freeps? THEY DON'T PLAY BECAUSE IT IS HARD
When someone grouped with Bertro: They are all a fecking babysisters who doesn't know to play pvp.
When someone says that FREEPS actually try to fight: You say, no they don't,

Awww....when when when, bla bla bla, you are not better than me, than bertro, or than freeps.

You just have a bigger ego, and that's all Ketth, you dare to talk ab out me....Did you look at yourself? You sure didn't.

Quoute me again and whever you want, but everyone knows how you act.

Oh Ketth, i love you!! Everything you said after "we started to lead since it was necessary, and before RoR" is just not important. You two started to lead when there were more creeps around, when the zergs started and a little while after, most creeps playing like cowards ^^. Ketth, you rolled a raid to zerg the map just cause 5-6 freeps just, well, owned you... Morgothel is the biggest coward around ettens, leading a raid and then ditching if half the raid is dead cause "he wants 2k rating". You are not good pvpers, you are not helping either freep or creep side. By this i'm not saying that you should just let freeps farm you, no. But don't play lame.

I remember in RoI when you, creeps, were zerging all day every day. The second i made a raid to fight back, you all rans to grams, claiming i was just a big zerger for making a raid, to defend freeps and get some action. The second after i disbanded, you all came out and started zerging again... So please, don't come to me with "oh we were trying to get action, we needed to help". You just want easy mode, and now, most creeps want easy mode zergs.

( on a side note, with u10, i will go back to ettens because we will be soooooooooooo OP.... )

Won't even bother replying to Caz, that's just clueless.

Originally Posted by Morgoes

I remember in RoI when you, creeps, were zerging all day every day. The second i made a raid to fight back, you all rans to grams, claiming i was just a big zerger for making a raid, to defend freeps and get some action. The second after i disbanded, you all came out and started zerging again... So please, don't come to me with "oh we were trying to get action, we needed to help". You just want easy mode, and now, most creeps want easy mode zergs.

Yeah, remember this one. Though I wasn't online I heard you switched after with lots of QQ to creepside and got totally trolled.

Originally Posted by Morgoes

( on a side note, with u10, i will go back to ettens because we will be soooooooooooo OP.... )

Would expect nothing less.

RANK 9! <3

Thank you for the love and support from freep side <3

You have been much inspiration to my cause, i look forward to hitting rank 10.

Love you all <3

Grina is making raids, and when he fills Palin/Prey make another. Some nights we had 2 raids...nice that much freeps come to play freep, bt still not enjoyable becase it's too laggy. Grina is leading pretty good, but he sometimes has critical moments and that can be improved and I'm sure he will. Also I would like to see Serby more in Ettens since he goes there ultra rare.

Originally Posted by Ketth

The reason I don't play freep is I don't want to have anything to do with freepside.

Heh, I find this funny 'cause you're a lot in contact with freepside when you're chatting with freeps here on forums ^^


And as from someone who has logged just randomly to moors lately: Moors is boring atm, there's no fights around, it's only zerging. And i'm not meaning 1vs1 fights, but for example if 3 solo roamer freeps happen to face 3 creeps, it takes 10s or so and there's 6 creeps against those 3 freeps. It's ridiculous and kills fun of playing for me at least. (I also see bunch of freeps killing few creeps over and over again too, which is a bit meh...)

And for bigger fights, it's not the balance of creeps/freeps which ruins them, it's balance of numbers imo. Well there might be some problems with new freeps too, but there's also lots of new creeps. *wishes they all weren't spiders or defilers*

Have fun and see you around.

Originally Posted by Gordinion

Grina is making raids, and when he fills Palin/Prey make another. Some nights we had 2 raids...nice that much freeps come to play freep, bt still not enjoyable becase it's too laggy. Grina is leading pretty good, but he sometimes has critical moments and that can be improved and I'm sure he will. Also I would like to see Serby more in Ettens since he goes there ultra rare.

Heh, when freeps open second raid its usually end of my evening on freep side. I just dont have the high end pc which could handle the masses of freeps mainly because freep side is much more complicated. Creep in the other hand is easily playable with those numbers.

Originally Posted by Galadhol

I just dont have the high end pc which could handle the masses of freeps mainly because freep side is much more complicated.

At this point I'm not sure if it's about having a high end PC. I got one of this and I can't handle the lag in freep side, while i can more or less play with my creep, specially when NPCs are involved.

Going solo is a big help, but the Moors nowadays are no solo friendly.
Even when all of us know there are lot of soloers out here.

One word about the OP hunters.

Hunters have been food for creeps almost always, but the problem with a class like hunter is that if the player is really skilled the class would became OP, but not as OP as minstrels or champs that for sure. And yes, there was plenty of hunters camping OC in ROI, just as there was plenty of creeps camping EC. I blame all of them, because you can call me a lot of things but I'm not EC/OC camper. This is just boring, and I'm here for the fun.

AND NOW I WILL USE CAPS.

GUYS, DON'T GET TOO CONFIDENT.
U10 WON'T MAKE FREEPS OP.
LAURELIN'S FREEP SIDE IS FULL OF NEWBS AND UNDERGEARED PEOPLE, BUT THEY ARE INSANELY BRAVES.
CREEPS WILL CONTINUE FARMING US, HERE IS ALL ABOUT NUMBERS.

AND MY RESPECT FOR ALL CREEPS PLAYING FREEP NOW, BRUNT AND PAL FIRST OF ALL.


And now my last words for freep leaders.

Try to charge on sight, even if creeps also charge. Don't run when you see creeps trying to get better position, but also don't charge so deep on them that you leave you healers so exposed.
Seriously, is better a full wipe while attacking than half raid dead while running to a keep.

Play smart but aggresive, and please don't fight close to keeps.
If the action just go worse because creeps only want to hug, don't worry, better bored than fighting with 10 sec of skill lag.

Some of you are thinking now, hey if it's so easy maybe is better if you try to lead.
But no, for leading you need to speak fluid english, and mine is not enough good, and first of all...

I'M JUST A PAWN!

Careful with Maurorat - hell call you "a raid baby' and you will never loose the tag...

Originally Posted by Morgoes

I remember in RoI when you, creeps, were zerging all day every day.

Not sure if serious...

Really? that's your reply Ketth? world's thinnest argument...

Yes Ketth, i am the biggest easy moder and i am coming back with u10 cause all the freeps come back with u10 and we will zerg everything all day cause that's how we are, easy mode, zergers. <insert sarcasm>
I agree with Tinda, ever since a lot of freeps swapped to creep side when wargs and BA's were easy mode, freeps had a lot of unexperienced people, making freep side harder to play when most creeps are defilers and spiders and reavers.
U10 won't magically make them OP just because they have a bit of damage and morale. U10 will buff freeps up so that they can fight against creeps. This is a small server, in terms of pvp. All the QQ about freep buffs is from the big pvp servers where most freeps are good players and know their way around ettens.
On Laurelin, where half the people just want easy mode farm/zerg/camp, won't make such a big difference for many freeps.

Bhoris the spider, am i wrong?

Originally Posted by Morgoes

All the QQ about freep buffs is from the big pvp servers where most freeps are good players and know their way around ettens.

This.

Originally Posted by Morgoes

All the QQ about freep buffs is from the big pvp servers where most freeps are good players and know their way around ettens.

This.

Originally Posted by Morgoes

All the QQ about freep buffs is from the big pvp servers where most freeps are good players and know their way around ettens.

And this ad infinitum...

Nice effort peeeps tonight <3, I hope to see you leading more often Conrnab!, also Grinadan-Palin-and more people :-).

We died a lot today against twice our numbers, but the bards will sing soon about us.....



If not I will do, and then I will upload that song. -smileface-


:-).

Originally Posted by Morgoes

Really? that's your reply Ketth? world's thinnest argument...

I don't need to give you any arguments at all, I've seen you there how many times since RoR launched? Once? Twice? You can have barely any decent idea how the things really are.
And creeps zerging "all day every day" in RoI... you've probably seen it on one of these big PvP servers because that's not what was happening on Laurelin.
Also talking about the switchers... you really think they are "experienced players"? They usually switch to FoTM classes just because they are clueless when it comes to playing anything else.


And just on a side note, creeps weren't outnumbering freeps 2:1 yesterday, I see freeps have their own Patrat with his counts as well now.

In RoI both side zerg.

1 day Oc zerg and other day Ec zerg, this was ROI.

only one difference, if freeps was zerging, creeps logged wargs and wp, so freeps dont zerged much, and was ganked for wps.

I Guess In u 10 if freeps are OP again, 80% creeps will roll wargs, then same &&&& action.


P.D: like always sry for my english.

Originally Posted by Ketth

And creeps zerging "all day every day" in RoI... you've probably seen it on one of these big PvP servers because that's not what was happening on Laurelin.

And just on a side note, creeps weren't outnumbering freeps 2:1 yesterday, I see freeps have their own Patrat with his counts as well now.

A little gap here, I'd like to comment 2 things.

1-I agree freeps were zerging more than creeps did in RoI, in fact creeps didn't zerg back to RoI, that's true right, but laurelin was not that bad for creeps...vanyar for examlpe was thousand of times worst.

2º Track don't usually lie ketth, there were leechers and more people around, still you didn't get my point.... I was exagerating our Heroicy, soon bards will sing about ourselves ;-).

About the rest...I promissed myself to not argu more, its exhausting , but please creeps, no need to take all keeps, if not many new freeps won't even try, believe me that to call for more with all the map red....is not something -easy-, cheers to everyone.

Originally Posted by Remorl

In RoI both side zerg.

1 day Oc zerg and other day Ec zerg, this was ROI.

only one difference, if freeps was zerging, creeps logged wargs and wp, so freeps dont zerged much, and was ganked for wps.

I Guess In u 10 if freeps are OP again, 80% creeps will roll wargs, then same &&&& action.
.

This is the TRUTH.
At first sight of zerg, creeps log wargs and zerg soloers.

So, please enough QQ about zerg in RoI. Now is much worse, because freeps cant use maps to gank or got a burglar to log.