Thread: Grouping up

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Hi. I hit level 65 with my main a few weeks ago. Many are saying that LOTRO really just begins when you hit the level cap. Well, i agree with that cause there is a lot of stuff to do. But the problem is that nearly all of this stuff requires fellowships.

It is kinda easy to find guys for the Moria fellowship stuff, but since this is all between level 56 and 58 and I dont need it. But it was kinda impossible to find someone who wants to do any stuff except Moria. My kinship has some 65ers but not enough of them have the QPs they would need to do the stuff.

So, I'm looking for any guys that want to group up for 65 runs especially:

• > any Mirkwood instances (Dol Guldur) (3, 6 and 12 men)
• > Enedwaith (Ost Dunhoth and the new instances in Forochel, Trollshaws)
• > the Lothlorien Dungeons in Moria

Or can at least someone tell me where I can find a fellowship via LFF - cause 21st Hall isn't working for anything else but Moria itself and Eregion. And all the other places seem to be empty.

Reply or send me an mail here in the forums or ingame to Jan.

Regards

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Your two best bets:

1. Use GLFF (global LFF, user-created channel). Join by typing /joinchannel glff
Then use /1 or /2 or whatever (depending on which user channel it is for you) to type. Most of the people who regularly run the high-end instances have glff turned on. This is LFF but across all the regions.

2. Join one of the relatively venerable kins with people who've been 65 for a while or make friends with some of these people. Kins like Reforged, Ainur, Balrog Riders, Knights Creed, and Last Company have quite a lot of 65s who are looking to do this type of instance often. You don't have to join these kins (although it helps, of course) but getting to know people in them will help you get an invite before it goes out to LFF/GLFF more often. If you do well in a group with someone they're more likely to invite you again later. If you group up in the Moors, you're more likely to get an invite in PvE content. And so on.

As an example, Reforged (my kin) is relatively large for 65s. When people are looking for 3/6 man content, we usually field all-kin groups, but that certainly doesn't happen every time. It's just not always possible. If we have a raid going, anyone else who's on that wants to do a 3/6 man will usually post in GLFF or browse through their friend lists to fill it up. Every kin does this to some extent. Also feel free to start up your own groups - if you're posting on GLFF, the odds are rather good that someone in a group has done the instance before.

Also keep in mind this is still a young server (well under a year) for some of the most difficult content. Very few groups have cleared any of the 12-man content in Enedwaith or Mirkwood so far (see the raid progression thread for details). If you want to do either OD or BG raids successfully, by far your best bet is to join one of the raiding kins. Occasionally people try to get pick-up groups together for these, but they're not successful in the tough content so far and they're rare. The simple fact of this server being so new means that it's rather different from the older servers. I would feel comfortable leading a PUG through one, maybe two of the wings in the OD raid on tier 1. They're difficult but not hard enough to be impossible. On tier 2 or the harder wings of tier 1, like fear or Ivar, I only want to take people that I know can follow instructions and coordinate well and really know what they're doing with their class - which means kinmates, for the most part. Most of the other people I'd feel comfortable taking are in the other raiding kins, meaning that they're doing it separately.

Another reason you can find people for Moria so easily is that there are just a ton of instances in Moria with good reasons to go to them, and not just loot, either. Everyone needs to do some of the Moria instances for their level 58 class quests. Just because they're only level 60 doesn't mean they're not challenging. In my opinion, Dark Delvings (a 60 Moria 6-man) on hard mode is harder than any 6-man besides the new Enedwaith 6-mans on tier 2. If your group doesn't know what it's doing, a full raid of 65s will wipe repeatedly on the Vile Maw raid, too. You can even have groups of 65s wipe on the Rift, a level 50 raid.

Man, this post was longer than I intended when starting it. Bottom line - use GLFF for finding groups for the 65 stuff, get to know people in some of the better-known endgame kins. The ones I listed earlier are just examples - the raid progression thread is a good place to start but not a full list.

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Hey.

Thanks for that really informative reply. Although i already knew some of the stuff the user created channel /GLFF is new to me. I will try that out today right when I'm home from work. Cause in the past i ported to several main hubs in Moria, Bree, Rivendell, Caras and so on to use the regional LFF there. The GLFF will be really helpful there and i hope that this works out and many other guys use it. Thanks a lot man.

To the Kinship. First I have a really great and friendly kinship that i wont leave - we just lack of enough 65ers with access to the instances. And second I'm not the main raider type of guy - so a raiding kinship isn't my personal fit anyway.

For making 65er friends. Well i already have like 10 or 15 friends at level cap and some in the 60s. But even this seem to be not enough for setting up that desired instances cause some of them don't have all the QPs.

So, anyone want to be my friend?

Well we are about to setting up an ingame alliance with anther quite small kinship "Elves of the West" with some 65ers too. I hope i can get some of them to join some of the level-cap-stuff. And we are still looking for other kinships that want to do such grouping-alliance and for new members as well.

You are right with the fact that Dwarrowdelf is so "empty" of 65ers that want to group cause it's one of the new f2p servers, that have a lot of guys that haven't gotten any additional QPs.

But i wish that there would be more guys that are not afraid of kinship-extern guys that they let be a part in instances. I wish there would be more guys that let us (who are not member of a big level-cap-kinship) join them at least one time to prove that we can fight as good as kinmates in fellowships.

Well I hope to see you in game sometimes - maybe there will be an open spot in one of your next runs. (Man, sometimes I wish i would have a 65 Guardian or Minstrel - its not hard to get in groups for them ... )

Oh and +rep for your reply.

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L65 hunter here - always happy to help on instances (new and old) and questing in Enedwaith (eg. the daily giant/gwibber/Nan quests) or Mirkwood. If you see me on (or my alt Kierraen), ping me. Both my characters monitor GLFF so as to be available when groups need DPS or CC help.

Originally Posted by JanTATW

Well I hope to see you in game sometimes - maybe there will be an open spot in one of your next runs. (Man, sometimes I wish i would have a 65 Guardian or Minstrel - its not hard to get in groups for them ... )

Not always true But yes, sometimes it is difficult for hunters to get into fellowships since it's the class most often played. Balrog Riders usually runs instances throughout the day and night and we'll keep you in mind if we ever need dps. Don't get discouraged...endgame content is extremely fun and I'd hate to see anyone leave the game because they can't find groups. If I see you in glff I'll give you a holler if ever I can help you out

Wasn't trying to push you to switch kins at all, just saying that as far as running the toughest instances, it's the easiest way to go.

I don't mind taking people external from kin on most instances. On the hard ones, though, I also don't want to spend a gold or two on repairs because of wipes that could be easily avoided. This is because lots of people in the bigger/raiding kins aren't learning any of the instances (besides OD and BG raids) at this point, so they/we prefer to get through them smoothly most of the time.

Tougher instances (Sammath Gul, Glacier t2, Lost Temple t2, any of the 60+ raids besides Filikul) are less forgiving of mistakes. I'm not trying to be snobbish, but this is why a lot of people much prefer running with kinnies. Moria instances are great for meeting people outside your kin because they're generally easy enough for 65s that nobody feels the need for all-kin runs. Keep an eye out, though. And like I said, don't be afraid to start up a group for an instance. You're very likely to get someone who knows the instance when using GLFF. Even if you don't, decent guides exist for all the instances besides the new ones.

Originally Posted by Aellor

Balrog Riders usually runs instances throughout the day and night and we'll keep you in mind if we ever need dps. Don't get discouraged...endgame content is extremely fun and I'd hate to see anyone leave the game because they can't find groups. If I see you in glff I'll give you a holler if ever I can help you out

Don't forget me!!!!

Originally Posted by Eldrandir

Don't forget me!!!!

I could never!

Your so nice. Maybe Jan, You and Myself should run SH or something

Another thing to keep in mind - if you group with some people on some of the easier content, and prove that you know your stuff, you may get invites to tougher content down the line.

Finally there is a bright side to being a hunter. Not to sound like a snob, but I really hate pugging with a healer who I don't know (though in fairness I pugged with a good healer a week and a half ago, forget her name though). But if, say, we are 5/6 in kin for a GS HM run, with a healer and tank, I'm more comfortable with dps who I don't know than with a healer I don't know.

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Thank you guys very much for the replies and tips. A really nice community we have here.

Yesterday I tried the GLFF instantly when I logged on - and guess what I ran Stone Heights and HoC for the first time and both very successful on the first try.

I found several guys in GLFF asking for fellows for Stone Temple, SG, Glacier and some other stuff. (Even for a turtle run) I had to log than and could not participate but I guess I these guys will be still there the next time I'm on.

Oh and btw - for the repair bills of guys I get to run with me I always have at least 10 gold with me to take cover off that

Originally Posted by Aellor

Balrog Riders usually runs instances throughout the day and night and we'll keep you in mind if we ever need dps.

Well I would really appreciate that. Looking forward to meet one of you guys someday.

kind regards and have a nice weekend - Jan

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Originally Posted by JanTATW

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I found several guys in GLFF asking for fellows for Stone Temple, SG, Glacier and some other stuff. (Even for a turtle run) I
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Turtle is extremely common, nothing special about it so you can get one going almost any day.

Were not to heavy into the endgame content ourselves yet, with only a limited amount of 65's we can only partially fill groups during our best times, i have tried to let a few kinsmen try to run it, and an officer or two, but unless I know one of my Kin leads is on i tend not to publicly advertise for it anymore, lol after a completely embarassing situation with a glff pug group for teh maw, But as we grow up and get a few more of our 55+'s to 65 we would be more then willing to go out with non kinmembers on a constant basis,

but i know personnaly alot of my 65's would be more tehn happy to help you on teh side, as long as someone intellegent was running the raid.

We offer teh use of our raidcall servers, and alot of our level caps have teamspeak, and ventrillo clients downloaded by my request so they can communicate across barriers.

Ill group with you, you'll have to pick up my toon at Gramsfoot tho. Preferably at regular intervals...by yourself.

Originally Posted by kabarman555

ill group with you, you'll have to pick up my toon at gramsfoot tho. Preferably at regular intervals...by yourself.

it's a trap!!

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K- I'm back from a long weekend. Thanks again for your replies. I try to look out for you in-game. But maybe you can send a short mail or tell when you are on to "Jan" to establish a first contact.

Hope to see some of you guys later today or this week.

Have a nice one.

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