Thread: Silken Robe of Golden Splendor

Left: typical outfit, typical figure. Right: new Silken Robe of Splendor, more or less rectangular person.

Is this what the new anniversary robe is supposed to look like (sleeves stuffed with cotton, female figure... questionable), or should I be /bugging this?

I suspect it is WAI, but one can /bug and hope? I can't believe they would have not checked the cosmetic on female toons, and it is obviously..rectagular. No waist either when viewed from the front. At least it is one less thing I will have to collect tokens for.

I would say that considering the "dress" also provides you with a very boxy figure, that something is sorely amiss. Or, it's possible that they wanted it to simply look that way for aesthetic purposes ... all of which doesn't change the fact that it's a graphical-clipping nightmare.

I possess (I believe) every dress in the game on my minstrel. I will absolutely NOT be getting the Silken Dress of Splendor. A dress that can make a hobbit female appear flat chested is just ..... wrong.

The design itself is lovely, and I don't even mind the high-collared conservative look... but the body shape is all wrong! Boxy in the middle and completely flat-chested? Ugh.

I would /bug it, because it is not working as intended. The differences between those two screenshots is one is feminine and one masculine. Every piece of clothing/armor in-game appears differently depending on gender, so too should this item...

Aren't the new cosmetics the same model as on the store-only Robe of Leisure? (and the other 2 robes with just a different texture) If so then it's probably WAI as it's "just" a completely new model.

EDIT. Yup, logged in to confirm, the model is the same as the one on Robe of Leisure &co. Personally I like the new model, although it does make my elf girls' arms look really thick. It's a nice change from the wasp-waisted barbie dresses

/sigh

I rather like it (the outline, not the color combination particularly). My Hobbit just bought a nice plain-looking dress which she was able to dye white. (She's a healer, after all.) But once she put it on and I got a good look at it from the front, it gives her HUMONGOUS boobs.

/sigh

Ok so I broke down and got the Robe of Splendor because I have no willpower. Now I am staring at a fat looking elf loremaster (Kyradriel) and wondering what to do about it. Any suggestions for things to go with?

It's pretty obvious that these robes are designed to be a more loose fitting style, not hugging the body. That's why the figure looks different. I think it's a good thing that they are bringing in clothes with different silhouettes.

OK, seriously, why would you want a dress that makes it look like two gigantic balloons are tapped to the front of your female toon's chest? Go look at what a woman in a dress looks like. Unless she is wearing an underbust corset, even the tightest dress will not have the thing tucked up UNDER the boobs like in the first picture. The new dress is much more in line with what the silhouette of a regular-sized woman actually looks like than the other thing.

Personally, I'm quite pleased with the two new anniversary outfits and some of the new robes from the store. Looser-fitting, more realistic-looking outfits for the win!

Originally Posted by Cloudie-wan

OK, seriously, why would you want a dress that makes it look like two gigantic balloons are tapped to the front of your female toon's chest?

I don't know either, but there must be a fair number of young females who do. You can see them at any Renaissance Faire and at most science fiction conventions. Their corsetry must indeed be remarkable, possibly involving cantilevered underwires.

quoted from above: "OK, seriously, why would you want a dress that makes it look like two gigantic balloons are tapped to the front of your female toon's chest?"

Duh... because gigantic balloons are FUN! (Not unlike gigantic boobs, especially boobs of golden splendor)

Personally, I'm fine with the robe as is. But I wouldn't mind them adding a Silken Thong of Golden splendor either.

Originally Posted by djheydt

/sigh

I rather like it (the outline, not the color combination particularly). My Hobbit just bought a nice plain-looking dress which she was able to dye white. (She's a healer, after all.) But once she put it on and I got a good look at it from the front, it gives her HUMONGOUS boobs.

/sigh

Looks like I just found the perfect 20th anniversary present for my wife! Giddyup.

I kid, I kid - just couldn't resist because I am a man and boobs turn off all my synapses

Originally Posted by WesCrag

quoted from above: "OK, seriously, why would you want a dress that makes it look like two gigantic balloons are tapped to the front of your female toon's chest?"

Duh... because gigantic balloons are FUN! (Not unlike gigantic boobs, especially boobs of golden splendor)

Personally, I'm fine with the robe as is. But I wouldn't mind them adding a Silken Thong of Golden splendor either.

If they put that in the game, I would find a way to make my dwarf champ wear it and a pointy mage hat, and nothing else. At least for one raid. While using the "little girl" vox setting on my sound card.

Originally Posted by DemonicLemming

If they put that in the game, I would find a way to make my dwarf champ wear it and a pointy mage hat, and nothing else. At least for one raid. While using the "little girl" vox setting on my sound card.

This is why we have these items. Ya never know who wants what. This is not only funny but may very well be the practical reason for Fizzlemuffle. We never can have enough fizzlemuffle!

I think this is WAI. Not long ago there were some threads on the forums asking for more modest clothing options. The OP thought that dresses on her toon showed too much cleavage, and hobbits were "extra bosomy" in dresses. This dress/robe is for those people.

Originally Posted by Tall_Guardian

I think this is WAI. Not long ago there were some threads on the forums asking for more modest clothing options. The OP thought that dresses on her toon showed too much cleavage, and hobbits were "extra bosomy" in dresses. This dress/robe is for those people.

Including the man-arms?

I get that some people want more conservative clothing, but come on -the robe isn't bad, but the dress has no dress shape in the slightest. It looks like someone is wearing a towel underneath their clothing. A really thick towel.

I was under the impression that there were two items: a dress for female toons and a robe for male toons.

That said, the robe on male characters makes their neck look like beef jerky, and also lets you see though the back of their jaw.

Modesty is fine. I like modesty. Making the female characters flat chested and male looking is not great and is not a modesty issue. You can still have a bust and be modest.

How many cup sizes did she lose in the 2nd picture? Did all that excess body fat go into the arms and waist, instead? That second picture hardly even resembles a female form. (And I'm speaking as someone WITH a nearly 40-year-old female form herself.)

Now, I appreciate different body sizes and shapes, and dresses and robes that show them off. But that second picture to me...looks far more masculine than feminine. And bulky. Terribly, terribly bulky. The arms do NOT look loose or free-flowing (which would be awesome!!), they look padded and chunky and stuffed. The chest does not look modest, it looks either squashed or terribly saggy. Perhaps it's simply a limitation of the engine, that can't show 'loose' very well, but... if that's an attempt at looking 'loose', it utterly fails.

Originally Posted by Fionnuala

It's pretty obvious that these robes are designed to be a more loose fitting style, not hugging the body. That's why the figure looks different. I think it's a good thing that they are bringing in clothes with different silhouettes.

Agreed. It took me by surprise, but it isn't too horrible.

Horse is much worse XD

I like the dress on Linwe and she does NOT look flat... I personally do not care for the highly "booby" look some clothing pieces tend to give the characters.. so for me, this suits just fine...

I don't think they look flat, I have one of the new robes from the store as well, they just appear to drape from the shoulder instead of being skin tight around the waist and arms. They are also layered, hence the slight bulkiness, they don't look man-ish to me!

It's nice to have some dresses/robes that actually look like something you could adventure in, instead of visit some shady back-alley in Bree... If I compare my captain wearing armor to her wearing some of the busty dresses, they make her double in chest size... does not look natural... how are you sposed to fit those big things inside armor without chaffing! >.<

Originally Posted by Shaz

How many cup sizes did she lose in the 2nd picture? Did all that excess body fat go into the arms and waist, instead? That second picture hardly even resembles a female form. (And I'm speaking as someone WITH a nearly 40-year-old female form herself.

These dresses dont do to my characters nearly as bad as in that picture. However most things in this game increase cup size by an insane amount... captain DN breast plate does this more than any other item. Looking at it in game it appears to me most things give the corset look, while these appear a little more bra-less... however it is a tad bit overdone, and while it does not make my characters as flat chested as that screen it does need a bit of an increase.

I do like the loose appearance however very much as an alternative.

Originally Posted by Fionnuala

It's pretty obvious that these robes are designed to be a more loose fitting style, not hugging the body. That's why the figure looks different. I think it's a good thing that they are bringing in clothes with different silhouettes.

Agree 100%. This thread's topic makes me wonder if most of the people in the thread are women or have seem a woman without support and in a robe. If the OP *is* a woman, then the thread reinforces some stereotypes about how women should look.

Perhaps the name for the dress should be more "kimono" or "lazywear" or "no support dress" because that's the look that it has going. Also, I'm happy that they're adding new meshes, instead of repainting the same dress mesh. I'd wear a barrel as clothing if it meant we got more meshes, a lack of painted on armor sometime, etc. and.. perhaps... hair not made of styrofoam! (Hey DDO has this).

(My character doesn't look that flat chested as the one in the OP either).

I love how people look at the screenshots and determine its "WAI" because "someone wanted more modest clothing".

I can tell you with absolutely certainty, the robe IS NOT WORKING. Its clearly the male mesh...

Roll a male character, throw a robe on him and find out for yourself its not working...

And for the record the robes in this game are very modest as they are (as with all the dresses too...) so I fail to see why anyone complains about this; you know we could have the likes of Aion or any untold number of other fantasy designs that throw decency completely out the window...

Shape, fit, design, I couldn't care less; but every time the RK in my kin gets a heal while wearing this outfit, he looks like he has become radioactive.

Tolkien must be turning in his grave....

Originally Posted by DathKahRek

I love how people look at the screenshots and determine its "WAI" because "someone wanted more modest clothing".

I can tell you with absolutely certainty, the robe IS NOT WORKING. Its clearly the male mesh...

Roll a male character, throw a robe on him and find out for yourself its not working...

And for the record the robes in this game are very modest as they are (as with all the dresses too...) so I fail to see why anyone complains about this; you know we could have the likes of Aion or any untold number of other fantasy designs that throw decency completely out the window...

People are saying it's WAI because there are several other robes and dresses in the game that use the exact same model for females, such as the Robe of Leisure. Unless all of these other dresses are broken too, and have been broken for months, this is how it is intended to be. If this was the only dress like that you'd have a point.

It's not so much being modest as having a dress that doesn't look like you stapled it to the underside of your ????.

Tolkien must be turning in his grave....

Why, because the outfit is colorful? I mean, it's an ugly color, don't get me wrong, but colorful dyes have been around for a long time, so it's not necessarily inaccurate. Just ugly.

Oh. I thought the Robe one was meant for males and that was why it looked loose on my elf-maiden. I still made her wear the robe instead of the dress, since I liked how the robe dyes better.

I think they were going for a obi sash/kimono look. Too bad they have those odd sleeves, as it would be perfect if they had kimono type sleeves. And I have seen kimono type outfits on lady elf NPCs, so it would fit fine in the look of the game to have a true kimono.

For those that don't know, a proper kimono must be flat chested. Special garments are worn in the chest area to get this effect, and it is supposed to be a straight down shape. The sleeves are where the elegance should come in, and the more flared and long they get in the lower area of the sleeves, the more the message is, "I am available."

Originally Posted by OmNomNom

Oh. I thought the Robe one was meant for males and that was why it looked loose on my elf-maiden. I still made her wear the robe instead of the dress, since I liked how the robe dyes better.

I got the dress for comparison, and the dress is just as formless:



Left: Typical outfit, typical figure.
Middle: Silken Robe of Golden Splendor, rectangular person, mannish arms
Right: Silken Dress of Golden Splendor, rectangular person, mannish arms

I'm still not sure this is how it's intended to look, even though some people evidently like it. It's hard to tell in this picture, but the neck is wrong too - and by that, I mean my character's neck doesn't match her face like it does when wearing most outfits.

New robes are broken on many, many ways. They do make elfs (even the males) look fatty, they have a weird point at the bottom of the robe that appears every few seconds while running, and the worst one: the anniversary robes make my male human character get a really think neck, and I can see behind his face.

Seriously, how can they not notice this?

http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...roken-on-elves.

I really dislike the figure altering effects this robe and dress have on my ladies. Perhaps they work as intended, but for me the change is far too dramatic. How could the lithe, forever young body of a female elf possibly look that way under anything accept football padding? They also bulk up the young, athletic, female human form and young, gymnastic, female hobbit form. These garments take lithe runners and turn them into bulky weight lifters. If they remain this way, to the auction block they go!

I usually will buy the lovely cosmetic outfits for my female characters. They have always been fitted nicely for the females characters; until now........... It looks like they have a potatoe sack on. I am very disappointed in the androgynous look.

Originally Posted by Rebel_Maenad

The design itself is lovely, and I don't even mind the high-collared conservative look... but the body shape is all wrong! Boxy in the middle and completely flat-chested? Ugh.

I think this is because it is a robe and not a dress. Have you compared to the Silken DRESS of Golden Splendor?

The robe is appropriate for both male and female characters. It is more boxy because it is not skin tight like some outfights and does not have a drawn in waist like a dress. It looks perfectly normal on a female to me, though it is a bit overly formal.

I have the robe and have tried it on many characters, and all in all I like how it looks, except for on female humans. I don't know why, but it looks AWFUL on women. Female elves and hobbits look fine, a little boxy, but it's a robe so that's okay. But on female humans it's like boxy to the extreme.

My problem with both the dress and robe: the sleeves are too bulky and look like they belong on a sweater or sweatshirt, not on a flowing robe or gown. The sash seems to be placed too low, almost around the hips, and isn't pulled tight and emphasizing the waist, which is the look most people go for when they wear a sash with a gown or robe of that style.

That being said, I don't think either the dress/robe or the horse are necessarily lore-breaking or unTolkien-like. Here's some Tolkien quotes regarding clothing:

"They dressed in bright colors, being notably fond of yellow and green..."

"I picture a fairly human figure...fattish in the stomach, shortish in the leg. A round, jovial face; ears only slightly pointed and 'elvish'; hair short and curling (brown). The feet from the ankles down, covered with brown hairy fur. Clothing: green velvet breeches; red or yellow waistcoat; brown or green jacket; gold (or brass) buttons; a dark green hood and cloak (belonging to a dwarf)."

Old Tom Bombadil is a merry fellow; bright blue his jacket is, and his boots are yellow.

But Tom was all in clean blue, blue as rain-washed forget-me-nots, and he had green stockings.

And Glorfindel's horse:

Clearer and nearer now the bells jingled, and clippety-clip came the quick trotting feet...In the dusk its headstall flickered and flashed, as if it were studded with gems like living stars."

He uses the word "bright" more than once, and Glorfindel's horse sounds like it's wearing jewels, beads, and...bells. When do we get horses with bells?

Oh, no! Can you imagine the enhanced aggro range if our horses jingled? No one would ever survive riding through the North Downs, the wargs would be coming for miles around.

I passed on the robe, the strange teal undyeable strip turned me off before I even noticed anything else.

Bought several cloaks though, they dye up real nice.