I could never take dorfs seriously in this game. Dunno why. Something about the design. They look goofy lolloping about everywhere. I kept trying to roll one and kept not making it past lvl 10 because I kept getting tired of looking at it... too bad, because I actually think dorfs are pretty neat .
Originally Posted by Tassolahoff
So, after reading this thread, which is actually very hilarious, I've decided hobbits are better than both elves and dwarves.
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I felt it was good to have a place for all those who play dwarves to vent off some steam, trade funny "And then the elf walked into the door!" stories, and generally explain why those tall-eared freaks are so bad.
Personally, I dislike a race that makes claims to being first (they came second in fact) and generally think it is better then it is for no reason. Nine out of ten times, in most fantasy genre, they are the cause of more problems then they fix. In LotR, they run away despite the fact they helped to create the rings of power in the first place.
(Don't believe that whole "We didn't know" line. After all, you notice that they made their three rings without Sauron. But like to claim they did not know what is going on? Pull the other, it has bells and finger-cymbals on it.)
I will say they are good for hanging from the walls of a keep or castle. Operation Elven Shield should be in full effect!
Oh and feel free to mention, of course :P, why you decided to play a dwarf.
You speak with true wisdom little dwarf. Bare in mind that if you would live for thousands of years you would start to see things differently.
I don't know how the Elves in Rivendell act, but in Ered Luin they indeed show well that they suck.
Take for example the quest where you have to take a cask to the keeper of the vineyard. You then have to go in a dangerous (lore-wise) Goblin-infested area to retrieve grapes so new wine can be bottled. Then, what does she say? "Oh, he is so awesome for giving me a cask. I must return him a casket full of whine". Errr...? That's like saying "Thank you for that wallet I really needed. Here, have an identical wallet filled with money!". Oh, and you, who did actually dangerous work? "Check your mail, I might later decide to send you a single bottle"... Alright, so you deliver the cask filled with wine bottles, and what do you get told by that scheming elf? He only sent that first cask for the purpose of receiving back a cask filled with wine! Remember my wallet example? I think I'm going to gift an elf an empty wallet. Oh, and he has heard of you fighting Goblins, and tells you it was for a worthy cause. A worthy cause? Getting drunk is considered a worthy cause to send someone in a (lore-wise) dangerous area where he could die???
And as for something shorter: as we all know, Elves love to run away. But if someone of your race does someone harm, oooooh boy! "A Dwarf kidnapped Avorthal's son? DEATH TO EVERY SINGLE DWARF IN EXISTENCE!". They would of course horribly fail, breaking their weak arms from just pulling their bow strings already, but still. You don't wage war against a whole race if a single being of that race did something bad, no matter how terrible it is!
Can you build an indestructible, epic, AoE-damage-doing troll out of wood? No. You need to use some stone and magic power gems found deep in the earth. Beat that, elves. What are you going to power yours with? Leaves? Stone golem kills tree golem in an instant, then kills 20 more without breaking a sweat. Total pwnage.
And also, there are female dwarves. They just look and dress like the men, and are about a third as common as the males. The devs just decided it wasn't worth it to make a marginally different dwarf model.
Name a dwarf cooler than elronds dad. Earendil
It just cannot be done. He flies around the sky in a magic boat with a silmaril on his brow appeariny asca star.
I think the dwarves who chased glaurong off were cool with their masks. Dwarves are subject to evil though. Same as elves men and hobbits. Also the maiar. I think the idea behind arda is that free will and valour define a person rather than cultural traits or appearances.
If we want to talk about which race has more power than others in terms of making good decisions nobody will win. But if you want to compare the races specialities maiar are the most powerful. Elves are wise and fair and have crossbred with the maiar aka luthien. Men have a wonderful trait called gift of illuvatar which causes either joy or fear. Dwarves made from stone are the masters of mining the earth. The elves loved dwarf minerals no doubt about it.
Not all elves actually live in tree houses. Gondolin was no tree house.
Also the balrog being under khazad dum wasnt the fault of the elves or the dwarves. But a seed of morgoths evil.
Elves were encouraged to leave the world after the war of wrath but they chose to remain behind for various reasons like fear of the valar or judgement. its a good thing they remained behind and the istari came without doubt. But as we know even the istari could be sinners. And the one who was afraid ended up triumphing. The only perfect being is always going to be eru. I dont know if dwarves worry about eru much I dont even know their fate after death? Anybody know?
P.s I think male elves can look ok in this game if you are very careful. Shame on the devs for making dwarves midget bikies and rastas and elves albanian lady boys
As for a "cooler" Dwarf than Ëarendil, allow me to introduce Âzaghal, lord of Belegost, who spent his last breath by plunging a knife into Glaurung's stomach. And his Dwarves who carried him away from the battle whilst it was still raging.
And as for Gondolin-atleast no Dwarven hall has fallen to treachery.
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"And though all I see is darkness, I know that I will not flinch from my destiny."
"..dwarves are not heroes, but calculating folk with a great idea of the value of money; some are tricky and treacherous and pretty bad lots;some are not, but are decent enough people like Thorin and Company if you don't expect to much." -The Hobbit Chapter 12
No Beards-In fact elves could grow beards. Elves had no beards, at least until their "third cycle of life" or until they aged by great stress. Cirdan, Mahtan, and Gwindor all had beards.
They were not created by Eru, but by Aule. In fact Aule tried to envision what the Children of Illuvater would look like and messed up, by making dwarves way to short/stocky, fugly and exceedingly stubborn (This was in order to combat Melkor from enslaving them). In order to save Aule's feelings from being but hurt, Illuvater adopted the dwarves as his children. This is the same nit-wit Vala whos favorite pupil was Feanor and his two greatest lieutenants were Marion and Curumo (Later known as Sauron and Suraman respectively). So, the dim-wit Aule is their father and the traitors Sauron and Suraman are probably their uncles. Man everything this Vala touches turns to garbagio.
Another thing to remember. The ents were made just to keep you little half-pints from destroying all the forests, to fuel your forges.
So to the rest of the free peeps. Just remember our adopted brother is a little slow on the uptake, but he can be decent as long as we don't expect much, so just humor him. What? He said, "I'm your Step-Sister". OH. Nice Beard there sis, you ugly bugger.
Answer me one question... how many of the "great" Elven kingdoms survived the 3rd age? I say maybe 1... Lothlorien, if you say Mirkwood, you are wrong, they cant even defend it. The dwarves have many places where they live. Iron Hills, Ered Luin, and Erebor. They lost Khazad Dum becouse of a Balrog, the one that the Elves forgot to kill. And what dwarf in his right mind would fight that thing.
The beards take it all...
If you say elves have beards when they are in their 3rd life cycle, does that mean an elf goes through puberty when they are in their 2nd life cycle?
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