Thread: How do you solo Ergoth?

Spent about three hours getting through that horrid mirror puzzle just to jump down and pretty much get one shotted. Level 62 hunter. Last thing I saw was my health drop to half and about half a dozen morroavil coming at me?

How can it be possible to take on, solo, 1 signature and a heap of solo mobs please?


Edit: Nevermind, discovered that you can take others into the solo version. Just had my wife spam heal me while I burned her down. Still can't understand how this could be solo'd

Are you certain that you're in the new solo version ( which you talk to Broin? to enter ), and not attempting to solo the 3man instance from the instance panel.

Cleared quite quickly last night, hardly any foes left in the whole level. Certainly no adds around the boss...

Yea it was quite easy maybe you picked up the team version of the quest not the solo version. that is how your wife was able to enter.

You must have gotten the team version from the panel, solo version has no adds when fighting Ergoth. And I just did it for the first time on my warden and found the mirror puzzle quite easy.

When you do the 3-man version of this and you're dealing with the mirrors before the final boss, adds respawn regularly and mess up your mirrors, which all need to be set up to get through to the boss. Once you have all the mirrors alligned correctly the adds stop spawning. It's getting them all alligned before more adds spawn that can take a lot of time.

I have a related question, concerning the epic quest (2.8.3) I had never tried/done Lumul-Nar before a couple nights ago when I wandered around in there without knowing much about how to get through it, and finally ported back out.

I want to solo it only for the purpose of doing 2.8.3 for the epic quest. From what I've read it appears to be an instance that can be done other than doing it for the epic quest, and most of the walkthrough information I've found since my attempt last night is geared toward the 3-man instance moreso than accomplishing the epic quest.

Must the entire instance be done in order to satisfy the epic quest requirement to destroy the Gift of Gorothúl in Lumul-nar? I thought I read something that indicated it was not necessary to adjust the mirrors to complete the epic quest, but I'm not sure of that. Thanks in advance for the clarification/help!

Originally Posted by Alcaniel

I have a related question, concerning the epic quest (2.8.3) I had never tried/done Lumul-Nar before a couple nights ago when I wandered around in there without knowing much about how to get through it, and finally ported back out.

I want to solo it only for the purpose of doing 2.8.3 for the epic quest. From what I've read it appears to be an instance that can be done other than doing it for the epic quest, and most of the walkthrough information I've found since my attempt last night is geared toward the 3-man instance moreso than accomplishing the epic quest.

Must the entire instance be done in order to satisfy the epic quest requirement to destroy the Gift of Gorothúl in Lumul-nar? I thought I read something that indicated it was not necessary to adjust the mirrors to complete the epic quest, but I'm not sure of that. Thanks in advance for the clarification/help!

At least before this patch (and I assume it has not changed), you can complete 2.8.3 (and 2.8.4 for that matter) without having to fight the final boss. And yes, you do not have to adjust the mirrors to destroy (click on) the "Gift" (a glowing orb thingy).

If you do the 3 man version, you do not have to fight the final boss to complete the epic stage.

If you do the newly added solo friendly version, you must kill the (much easier version of) the final boss in order to get completion credit.

A little question,

I have already done 2.8.3 in the past (the 3 man version before the patch). I wanted to go back there in the solo version to complete the deeds but when I tried to click on the instance in the instance panel I only had the small fellowship option. Is the solo version only accessible threw the book? If not how can I have access to the solo version?

Thank you

Originally Posted by Rhino-Man

At least before this patch (and I assume it has not changed), you can complete 2.8.3 (and 2.8.4 for that matter) without having to fight the final boss. And yes, you do not have to adjust the mirrors to destroy (click on) the "Gift" (a glowing orb thingy).

Originally Posted by Iracham

If you do the 3 man version, you do not have to fight the final boss to complete the epic stage.

If you do the newly added solo friendly version, you must kill the (much easier version of) the final boss in order to get completion credit.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated!

Originally Posted by Radaran

A little question,

I have already done 2.8.3 in the past (the 3 man version before the patch). I wanted to go back there in the solo version to complete the deeds but when I tried to click on the instance in the instance panel I only had the small fellowship option. Is the solo version only accessible threw the book? If not how can I have access to the solo version?

Thank you

The solo versions of 2.8.3 & 2.8.4 are only available from their respective NPCs and, currently, non-repeatable. Depending on the deeds you are working on, you won't be able to finish them as there are very few mobs and the flowers are not in the solo version; unless things changed at launch, I haven't played these since Bullroarer.

Filed a bug report, in case it is a bug, but the solo version does not give you deed credit for taking down Caerlug. It seems you only get credit in the group version. The other kill deeds do increment.

Originally Posted by hallasan

Filed a bug report, in case it is a bug, but the solo version does not give you deed credit for taking down Caerlug. It seems you only get credit in the group version. The other kill deeds do increment.

I doubt it's a bug since they removed at least one deed that I know of from solo, which makes complete sense considering how drastically different the instances are and that the bosses are all shells of their group selves.

Something that may need pointed out, though it really shouldn't, is that Ergoth has a nasty wound that will take you down fast if you don't remove it.

The 2 deeds that I want to complete, Is to kill Ergoth and kill morrovails. I thought I could have access to soloing the instance and kill the 50 morrovails that I'm missing.

The solo version of this requires you to destroy the relic, and kill Ergoth.
The solo version of Ergoth is so simple you can leave on auto attack and afk. No adds, little life.

Do not drop down on accident before destroying the relic. The instance will not update that you defeated ergoth already after you destroy the relic. You can't cancel the quest for the 5m cooldown either, the instance still remains up.

The only way to reset it I found was to join a group at which case all instances are closed, or start a new one.

Originally Posted by Radaran

The 2 deeds that I want to complete, Is to kill Ergoth and kill morrovails. I thought I could have access to soloing the instance and kill the 50 morrovails that I'm missing.

While the morroval deed does increase in the solo version, there aren't enough in there and it's not repeatable at this time to be able to complete it. As for the Ergoth deed, I never saw anything about it when I killed her so it must be disabled for solo as well.

just FYI, ive dealt with Ergoth in solo mode in a very frustrating way.... post update btw.

so if u managed to do all the mirrors, the web kinda opens up......

DO NOT SHOOT HIM FROM THE TOP

u have to jump down and deal with him. very very easy. i did it when im lv61.

but if u do shoot him from top, he'll go glitchy and u'll get a nasty fire dot that'll kill u in 10 sec or less...... lol

so yeah. web opens up? jump down. dont be scared.

Hmm, I've initiated the fight before jumping down and never had any kind of issue. She has a wound she does no matter what and it's pretty nasty so it should be removed quickly. She also has a knock-back she sometimes does and I've wondered if you can be thrown off of the mirror.

If you are a burglar - Do not hips at the mirror portion , this will cause the taskmistress / to despawn - and Mirrors will not be cleared of corruption, have logged a bug report on this.



Impossible to complete then.

I just did this tonight, the solo version. Ergoth had a little over 4K health I think but the adds nearly killed me. (I stopped for a sec to take a screenshot). Outside of keeping the mirrors clean and bright in the final mirror room, the only problem I had really had was turning the mirrors the right way. Ergoth herself was easy.

By the way, there are two solutions to the mirror puzzle:
http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Dunge...s_of_Lumul-nar
Yes, yes, I know, there are still only two solutions, the graphic doubles one of them. My mistake.

The deed isn't to kill Ergoth. It is a boss-kill deed. It includes both bosses, Frost-tail(?) and Ergoth. I do not remember the name of the deed.

Originally Posted by Cerridwen

Hmm, I've initiated the fight before jumping down and never had any kind of issue. She has a wound she does no matter what and it's pretty nasty so it should be removed quickly. She also has a knock-back she sometimes does and I've wondered if you can be thrown off of the mirror.

How long ago have you done it? They made a change a few months after that made it so no one would be able to stay up top (I'm assuming Hunters were doing this) and dps her down. That change made her give a dot to anyone who stays up top (this was not intended and so fixed) that will guarantee to do enough damage to kill them.

Yes, you can be knocked off the mirror. It's not that far down -- not as far as in Dark Delving, anyway.

Any ideas? I have tried this epic instance several times now (and yes it's solo). I drop down to Ergoth. Start fighting until she calls all her friends and then I can use any of my skills and I just stand there. I die quickly. I can't think of any way to do this by myself.

Can a minstrel do this? I level 61 and I still don't last a second when everyone closes in on me.

Originally Posted by Durgric

Any ideas? I have tried this epic instance several times now (and yes it's solo). I drop down to Ergoth. Start fighting until she calls all her friends and then I can use any of my skills and I just stand there. I die quickly. I can't think of any way to do this by myself.

Can a minstrel do this? I level 61 and I still don't last a second when everyone closes in on me.

Bump. Some one please. Is it me or is it bugged?

Originally Posted by Durgric

Bump. Some one please. Is it me or is it bugged?

I did this recently on a hunter and was able to quickly burn her down before I got swarmed. I'm imagining you could probably do the same on a Mini with warspeech activated and your big hits off cooldown as a WS Mini is pretty much a master of burst DPS. If you do get swarmed, I'm not sure what the best option would be.. maybe bubble yourself and keep a power potion handy? With inductions on heals, there's no way you'd be able to heal yourself through that.

When you do this instance solo, you have the superman buff I don't know how any class can be killed in this instance with that buff. It's so easy. The only difficulty some people have is if they can't handle the mirror puzzles. If so then the only 2 ways to complete it are: Use a walkthrough and continue doing it solo, or cancel and choose the 3-man version (where you get no buffs) and have 2 people who know how to handle the mirrors and fight the bosses help you. The solo version requires you to kill Ergoth to complete the quest, after you've destroyed the orb. The group version only requires you to destroy the orb, but since you're there you might as well go for Ergoth and the loot chests (which aren't available in the solo version). There's a very nice ring for tactical classes that sometimes drops from the challenge mode chest.

Originally Posted by ShinryuLOTR

I did this recently on a hunter and was able to quickly burn her down before I got swarmed. I'm imagining you could probably do the same on a Mini with warspeech activated and your big hits off cooldown as a WS Mini is pretty much a master of burst DPS. If you do get swarmed, I'm not sure what the best option would be.. maybe bubble yourself and keep a power potion handy? With inductions on heals, there's no way you'd be able to heal yourself through that.

With warspeach I was able to knock her down to about 1/4 moral but then I get swarmed and couldn't do anything.

Originally Posted by Alad.

When you do this instance solo, you have the superman buff I don't know how any class can be killed in this instance with that buff. It's so easy. The only difficulty some people have is if they can't handle the mirror puzzles. If so then the only 2 ways to complete it are: Use a walkthrough and continue doing it solo, or cancel and choose the 3-man version (where you get no buffs) and have 2 people who know how to handle the mirrors and fight the bosses help you. The solo version requires you to kill Ergoth to complete the quest, after you've destroyed the orb. The group version only requires you to destroy the orb, but since you're there you might as well go for Ergoth and the loot chests (which aren't available in the solo version). There's a very nice ring for tactical classes that sometimes drops from the challenge mode chest.

Tell me more about this superman buff.

Originally Posted by Durgric

With warspeach I was able to knock her down to about 1/4 moral but then I get swarmed and couldn't do anything.

For anyone looking for answers with this same predicament. I was finally able to defeat Ergoth (solo) after 5 or 6 tries. This is what I did.


1st step: Previously, I was set up with 4 Warrior Skald and 3 Watcher of Resolve traits. I didn't realize that you get a legendary skill to when you set up five of the same trait set. So I left 2 Warrior Skald and put in 5 Protector of Song traits. Then put in the Master of Tales trait (I don't have the skills for the other 5 trait sets). Once I did that I invoked the Tale of Warding and Heroism which gives huge armor value boost and huge boost to will and fate.

2nd step: When I finished aligning the mirrors and destroying the relic. I used a scroll of supreme warding and a scroll of supreme battle lore (I'm a scholar).

3rd step: I bought a battle buff from the LOTRO store and used it.

I was in war speech so when I jumped down I just started hitting her with the war speech calls and cries. The way it was traited made the cool downs clearly faster and therefore I was able to use the calls again until she died. All before she ever called for help.

I hope that helps.

I"m still confused by some things related to this, but I'm having trouble to. Here's my situation...

I'm trying to do the epic quest (solo). I'm a 62 Minstrel. I've jumped down and burned down Ergoth to about quarter health or so. Trouble is, then his health bar turns green and the adds come in. It's hopeless then. I'm gone in no time. I could kill Ergoth pretty easily, but when she turns non-aggressive and the adds come in it's over in a couple of seconds.

I assume this is different than just selecting the instance and choosing solo. Again...I'm doing the epic quest.

My plan at this point is to wait until I'm level 75!!

Originally Posted by Griz

I"m still confused by some things related to this, but I'm having trouble to. Here's my situation...

I'm trying to do the epic quest (solo). I'm a 62 Minstrel. I've jumped down and burned down Ergoth to about quarter health or so. Trouble is, then his health bar turns green and the adds come in. It's hopeless then. I'm gone in no time. I could kill Ergoth pretty easily, but when she turns non-aggressive and the adds come in it's over in a couple of seconds.

I assume this is different than just selecting the instance and choosing solo. Again...I'm doing the epic quest.

My plan at this point is to wait until I'm level 75!!

Do what I suggested in the previous post. The key is to kill her before the adds come. I did it at 61. I think if the adds start to come you need to move away from the bats. The bats are what keeps you from being able to do anything (no induction). It might give you a fighting chance.

Originally Posted by Durgric

Do what I suggested in the previous post. The key is to kill her before the adds come. I did it at 61. I think if the adds start to come you need to move away from the bats. The bats are what keeps you from being able to do anything (no induction). It might give you a fighting chance.

I appreciate the input, but like I said...when I burn her down pretty low, her health bar turns green and she leaves the fight. Then the adds come and I'm a goner. Isn't anybody else experiencing this?

Originally Posted by Griz

I appreciate the input, but like I said...when I burn her down pretty low, her health bar turns green and she leaves the fight. Then the adds come and I'm a goner. Isn't anybody else experiencing this?

I did it two days ago on my hunter and killed Ergoth before jumping down.... A Burn Hot followed by a Heartseeker and Merciful Shot and Ergoth was dead before they even knew what hit them

But I can figure that they'd bug out if you stood at the top and shouted and played ballads from the edge as it's definitely take more than two shots. I already did this on my minstrel back when it was only doable with a group.
I don't remember if you need to just survive a timer or kill all the mobs before the boss will reactivate. I seem to remember that you just need to survive for a bit, but I could be wrong.
If survival is the name of the game and you're going about it solo, throw down Fellowship's Heart before the adds get to you and start kiting around the arena to keep the melee off of you (ballads and cries can still be cast on the move). See if you can survive long enough to burn down Ergoth when they reactivate.

If worst comes to worst, find some friends or kinmates to help you out

Originally Posted by Griz

I appreciate the input, but like I said...when I burn her down pretty low, her health bar turns green and she leaves the fight. Then the adds come and I'm a goner. Isn't anybody else experiencing this?

No, in all of my failed attempts at this that never happened. As I said before. I configured my minstrel and buffed myself up to allow me to kill her so fast that she couldn't call her friends.

Originally Posted by Griz

I appreciate the input, but like I said...when I burn her down pretty low, her health bar turns green and she leaves the fight. Then the adds come and I'm a goner. Isn't anybody else experiencing this?

Yes, she turns green, and 4 very weak mobs come in and fight you for a short time until she turns red again and they go back to their places, and the cycle repeats: Ergoth, adds, Ergoth, adds (whatever is left of them), etc...

You have 2 options when the adds come in:
1) Kill them, they have very little morale
2) Run around in big circles until they go away, and heal yourself as much as you can while doing so

Stay in the middle of the platform while fighting Ergoth because she can knock you back a good distance. If you're near the edge you fall out and die.

A minstrel doing this should obviously be traited for damage.

Important note:
Again, if you're doing this instance at the time Broin gives you the quest, you have the option to choose either a solo version, or a group version. If you choose the solo version you will get a huge buff to your morale and damage and mitigations. You just can't fail with such a buff. Plus all the mobs in there will be weaker and have less morale, including bosses, and there'll be less of them.
If you're doing this instance from the instance join panel, or the pool, there is no solo version and hence no buff, and you should therefore not attempt to solo it.

PS:
If you find the solo version of this instance challenging, you should try one of the most challenging solo instances in the game today, one that a dwarf in Thangulhad (Mirkwood) gives you, a quest called Death from Below. After you've successfully completed that one (or not) you'll understand how easy solo Ergoth was.
I think the other most challenging solo instance (even though it's not a private but a public instance where other players can be with you at the same time), is the one in the shadow wolf cave in Enedwaith, and where you have to find the buried treasure (not just extinguish the torches).

If you're 65, try out the mirkwood robe of gloaming and the medium gloves of gloaming with insta-morale proc (both purple crafted items). With a 1700 armour tale, ballad of steel and a bit of melee defence you should boss the adds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssQv83k6arY

This is my mini helping a pair of hunters get a hardmode kill. Told them to ignore all the adds and let me tank them. Actually used chord of salvation to deliberately pull agro off them so they could use strength of the earth to recover from going burn hot.

Great fun - brawling and healing. Pity that fight is at the end of such a long instance and annoying mirror puzzle.

What an extremely aggravating convoluted THING this is. I am NOT an experienced gamer. It took me HOURS to get through this solo.

I started and got a ways through before deciding to start over due to frustration with the mirrors. Was going to search for information on the mirrors but decided I had to be smarter then those dang mirrors so it was back into the fray.

I finally reached the Gift and held off on destroying it as I wanted to get my limit of Rings and Morroval. I played around with the mirrors but wasn't getting it.....couldn't think of where they should go. I finally destroyed the Gift and wandered around looking for Ergoth, killing Morrovals as they respawned, and collecting rings. I finally had killed enough Morrovals but killed more to get Rings. At the end of one battle the Morroval was dead and I clicked to loot and BANG....I was dead with no revive. So the retreat took me back to the snow shelves and I started again. I still had dead penalty when I met the first Morroval on the way back and same thing happened....I killed the Morroval and then I died. So I started again and avoided Miss Morroval until dead penalty was gone.

While making my way back to Gift area I ran into a spot where a barricade had grown back over the passage. My memory is hazy at this point but it seems it was in a place where I could not focus a light on it. I went back a bit and dropped down a hole that had a vertical shaft of light passing through it and that worked so I could continue. It doesn't make sense to me now writing about it but at the time I couldn't figure out anyway to continue with dropping down a hole.

So I get back to the gift area...am able to kill a few more Morrovals without dying and finish up collecting rings. I finally gave up aligning the mirrors and came here for help and found the alignment charts. Start in on the mirrors but by now it is taking longer to kill the spawns as my weapons and armour are wearing thin. I can't get the job done fast enough but I keep at it and finally I get all the mirrors done at once and burn the hole.

Did battle made the kill fairly easy and was finally done. I have to double check but I think I lost the Kill 10 Morroval part of this deal. ARRRGH

It pains me that I have to go back into this area which it seems could be much more fun. I'm just not smart enough to know how much of my difficulty is due to me being a nube and how much is due to design.

Respectfully submitted.

Originally Posted by Linratheal

What an extremely aggravating convoluted THING this is. I am NOT an experienced gamer. It took me HOURS to get through this solo.

It did for me too. It is a puzzle solving instance. It is the only one like in the game. It was put in via customer feedback. Please put a Myst type instance. Plus add some mobs that have a timed power up.

Like any other "different" or "special" content. It is a mixed bag. Some people loved it. Others hated it. There are people that still know how to turn all the mirrors without a guide. They got it memorized.

It must have taken me 8 hours to solve this instance solo. I always gone with a trained mirror spinner. I know I was in there three different nights.

There is no other content like it in the game. Water Wheels has some puzzles. There are not in the same class of difficulty as Mirror Halls.

Originally Posted by Yula_the_Mighty

There are people that still know how to turn all the mirrors without a guide. They got it memorized.

Actually there is no need to memorize the mirrors or look at a guide. I did them first time in the instance, without ever seeing a guide before, just by looking at where the light was going, and I've been going back with friends and kin members countless times because I really enjoy this instance.

I sympathize with everyone that has difficulties with the instance (just like I have difficulties with other kinds of instances). Try asking around among your friends and kinnies, or even on the global channels if you find it too confusing to do solo. The instance really is quite fun if you do it in a small fellowship with somebody who gets along with the mirrors, and with the current level cap of 75 it can be fairly easy if you want it to .