Thread: new pvp set: how to get it past overblown AH price

the new pvp sets are cool but im at a bit of a loss as how to get it. it takes a TON of brooches, (8-12g)ea a small fortune of tyrant crests (prices differ but about 50-100g) and a few brilliant stones of witch are crazy hard to get and are worth up to 200g on the AH. i have 2 brilliant and 5 brooch. so i own about 460g in stuff? lol. for the effort its still not quite worth it (full set that is for hunter at least) though its worth trying. it takes a lot of effort........ i have attempted to farm the brooch and crest with ranger + a burg to loot it. only got about 2 (share 1 with the burg) in 1 hour with multiple interference's from creeps. with the amount of loot it takes to get just one piece... not to mention the entire set... it seems to take forever.

i'd like to know whats the most effective routine to get the items!

with pvp's unpredictability it may take till the next expiation to get it..... by that time a new pvp zet will come out and the entire effort is a waste. i find that even delving is getting annoying with the creeps in there ganking rock farmers.

i suggest that turbine half the cost of the sets and remove the brilliant stone cost, and make some item that can be bartered for it (like a heal insignia that heals you for little amounts every second or for every hit etc other stuff.

also turbine needs to make stuff that can be bartered for dull and glimmer stones, like creep pots, for freeps. after the initial farm rocks crazy stage DOF will again be a creep rock farming place if they dont.

Originally Posted by Lendas

the new pvp sets are cool but im at a bit of a loss as how to get it. it takes a TON of brooches, (8-12g)ea a small fortune of tyrant crests (prices differ but about 50-100g) and a few brilliant stones of witch are crazy hard to get and are worth up to 200g on the AH. i have 2 brilliant and 5 brooch. so i own about 460g in stuff? lol. for the effort its still not quite worth it (full set that is for hunter at least) though its worth trying. it takes a lot of effort........ i have attempted to farm the brooch and crest with ranger + a burg to loot it. only got about 2 (share 1 with the burg) in 1 hour with multiple interference's from creeps. with the amount of loot it takes to get just one piece... not to mention the entire set... it seems to take forever.

i'd like to know whats the most effective routine to get the items!

with pvp's unpredictability it may take till the next expiation to get it..... by that time a new pvp zet will come out and the entire effort is a waste. i find that even delving is getting annoying with the creeps in there ganking rock farmers.

i suggest that turbine half the cost of the sets and remove the brilliant stone cost, and make some item that can be bartered for it (like a heal insignia that heals you for little amounts every second or for every hit etc other stuff.

also turbine needs to make stuff that can be bartered for dull and glimmer stones, like creep pots, for freeps. after the initial farm rocks crazy stage DOF will again be a creep rock farming place if they dont.

If you havnt been farming them for the last 2 months your not going to get them. The sets are here now, the items required are constantly being checked. Youll only see the early birds with the set, or players with over 2000g

Farm tokens. Turn in at chests. Slowly earn toward set. Or play at ridiculous hours to avoid the primetime creeps that camp the locations and sabotage. So it goes in a PvP zone.

This thread smells of PvE QQ.

The PvP set is meant to be an "End-Game" set, it's not supposed to be easy to get......

Originally Posted by aRabidFlea

This thread smells of PvE QQ.

The PvP set is meant to be an "End-Game" set, it's not supposed to be easy to get......

Making something that requires an immense amount of time to get does not apply a degree of difficulty, only boredom

Sounds like someone wants to walk out of GV shoot a Creep in the back and have it rain gear…

It has taken me less than 1 month to collect my items; I know it will take much longer to get my PvE raid items.

The cost may seem high but it is based off a Freep starting from rank 0, by the time you get to rank 9 you could have created plenty of chances to obtain the barter items for gear. Unfortunately there are a lot of ranked Freeps so getting the barter items now will probably be tough unless you are from Fire Fighters or AnV who have been farming for the past couple of months and have most or all their items

It's decent for some classes, but the minstrel set is a joke. Very little crit and multiplier. Six set bonus is nice, but not worth the time invested or giving up the other sets. Preferred for healing minstrels and not tactical champions. ;[

Originally Posted by Saicheeze

Sounds like someone wants to walk out of GV shoot a Creep in the back and have it rain gear…

It has taken me less than 1 month to collect my items; I know it will take much longer to get my PvE raid items.

The cost may seem high but it is based off a Freep starting from rank 0, by the time you get to rank 9 you could have created plenty of chances to obtain the barter items for gear. Unfortunately there are a lot of ranked Freeps so getting the barter items now will probably be tough unless you are from Fire Fighters or AnV who have been farming for the past couple of months and have most or all their items

i dont want it rain gear i want it to rain rocks too! honestly im just looking for something that can be obtainable by non wardens who play at slightly normal ish times. unfortunately turbine (as always) thinks pvp is happy and all the creeps and freeps frolic around ec not bothering any pve freep that they see. obviously this is not the case

Originally Posted by Lendas

i dont want it rain gear i want it to rain rocks too! honestly im just looking for something that can be obtainable by non wardens who play at slightly normal ish times. unfortunately turbine (as always) thinks pvp is happy and all the creeps and freeps frolic around ec not bothering any pve freep that they see. obviously this is not the case

If your in the Ettenmoors, The designated PVP zone, The only places that's not PVE, then expect to be "bothered" by the enemy.

Also, if your social skills are so lacking that you can't get a few friends together to go farm some stones, then I suggest you work on that rather than worrying about how hard optional gear is to get when your solo.

Originally Posted by Familiarity

Or play at ridiculous hours to avoid the primetime creeps that camp the locations and sabotage. So it goes in a PvP zone.

Or nights like tonight when creeps can't be bothered to leave GV hill for 5 minutes to sweep the delving. =/

Originally Posted by mosphet99

Or nights like tonight when creeps can't be bothered to leave GV hill for 5 minutes to sweep the delving. =/

Boo hoo .

It's the state of PvP for the time being until more freeps come out. Expect many creeps to be around EC and on GV hill for a while... And be excited when you find one solo.

Originally Posted by DaveChappelle

Boo hoo .

I was mostly just surprised to see you more than 10 feet away from a certain higher ranked BA.

Originally Posted by Familiarity

It's the state of PvP for the time being until more freeps come out. Expect many creeps to be around EC and on GV hill for a while... And be excited when you find one solo.

Unfortunately this is very true. Creeps are hungry right now. We don't see many freeps out and the ones we do see, we are eager to fight.

to those that HAVE been coming out ...... thanks guys, we totally appreciate your presence and it wouldn't be any fun without you.

Well easiest way ive seen is to level a warden and find a dps'er who wants to duo for it, solo them when he's not on and then duo up and farm it out quick wen he is, then probably get another for the tyrants crests and brills. Tyrants are totally duo-able but in the time it takes my LM dPsing and my ward buddy tanking and self-healing/some dps creeps almost always showed up by the end. Solo a chieftain usually takes maybe 10-15 mins on a ward and maybe 20-25 on a LM although my LM only tried a few times. Also try and do it early in the morning or late at night if you can, very few creepies. Also afterwards when creeps show up, go to a safe spot and log out if you can manage it-- then go play another toon for a few hours and come back.

Originally Posted by dookie123

Also afterwards when creeps show up, go to a safe spot and log out if you can manage it-- then go play another toon for a few hours and come back.

endorsing combat logging, pretty sad.

I gave away so many of those things when they were worthless because I kinnie wanted them for cosmetics. I'm so dumb.

Originally Posted by dookie123

when creeps show up, go to a safe spot and log out if you can manage it-- then go play another toon for a few hours and come back.

So when we run into freeps in the dof, we should kill Iinferno first because he'll be trying to log out. thx for the tip.

Originally Posted by dookie123

Well easiest way ive seen is to level a warden and find a dps'er who wants to duo for it, solo them when he's not on and then duo up and farm it out quick wen he is, then probably get another for the tyrants crests and brills. Tyrants are totally duo-able but in the time it takes my LM dPsing and my ward buddy tanking and self-healing/some dps creeps almost always showed up by the end. Solo a chieftain usually takes maybe 10-15 mins on a ward and maybe 20-25 on a LM although my LM only tried a few times. Also try and do it early in the morning or late at night if you can, very few creepies. Also afterwards when creeps show up, go to a safe spot and log out if you can manage it-- then go play another toon for a few hours and come back.

Combat logging just like a similar past captain...way to go

logging out in the opposing force's Keep in an area where NPC's dont auto aggro you...sounds like the TR wall/Flagroom issue that was just fixed..

Held you in a higher respect than that Dong :/

Originally Posted by dookie123

Also afterwards when creeps show up, go to a safe spot and log out if you can manage it-- then go play another toon for a few hours and come back.

combat log = epic fail.

fight to the death, escape if you can, but to log in combat ...... bad advice to give to the OP. /sigh

might not be reading it the same way, but I don't think he is referring to combat logging, simply logging out while in the delving. just my perspective

I have looked at the sets for all of my toons and some of them look kinda neat. But not NEARLY neat enough for the amount of work they take.

IMO, increase the rank it takes to wear each item, maybe with the lowest starting at r7 then progressing upwards to rank 12. And cut the prices down by half or even more. Require a brilliant for only a few of the pieces instead of all.

I agree you sould have to work for them, but isn't that what we have been doing for years now? It's time to see some rewards! I came here to PvP, not PvE

So apparently combat logging is an exploit now to huh just lolz. File away then btw if tr wall was an exploit how were people getting killed up there? I never saw one person temp banned or perma banned for it and on top of it there were just as much creeps up there as there were freeps. I didnt see any creeps qq'ng or even mentioning the westernesse bug last book a freep had to bring up the issue and what did u see creepside? Everyone stacking westernesse and there mouth shut. I used to hold some creeps in higher respect to yicky its a 2 way street ive seen az combat log just as much as a certain capt a lot of freeps will agree with that. Hey i didnt expect to see any balanced fairness here its alway "You freeps" are doing this and that lol. Both side do it just b/c you personally dont do it does not mean theres creeps that dont.

Originally Posted by deathboy2000

might not be reading it the same way, but I don't think he is referring to combat logging, simply logging out while in the delving. just my perspective

Agreed, he never said combat logging. If you go down there and get tracked several times while waiting for the drake why wouldnt you wait till later? Even if he was combat logging how hard is it to kill a squishy in 25 seconds

By this logic every1 in the moors is a combat logger if they log outside of grams/gv (was funny to see people get on the QQ wagon as soon as it was mentioned thou lol)

Originally Posted by dookie123

Also try and do it early in the morning or late at night if you can, very few creepies.

Doesn't work on EST. Early in the morning is the thick of Aussie Primetime and late at night is still primetime.

Originally Posted by deathboy2000

might not be reading it the same way, but I don't think he is referring to combat logging, simply logging out while in the delving. just my perspective

I would agree with you if he didnt actually do it the other day when he was caught by creeps

Originally Posted by Kb_with_a_stone

So apparently combat logging is an exploit now to huh just lolz. File away then btw if tr wall was an exploit how were people getting killed up there? I never saw one person temp banned or perma banned for it and on top of it there were just as much creeps up there as there were freeps. I didnt see any creeps qq'ng or even mentioning the westernesse bug last book a freep had to bring up the issue and what did u see creepside? Everyone stacking westernesse and there mouth shut. I used to hold some creeps in higher respect to yicky its a 2 way street ive seen az combat log just as much as a certain capt a lot of freeps will agree with that. Hey i didnt expect to see any balanced fairness here its alway "You freeps" are doing this and that lol. Both side do it just b/c you personally dont do it does not mean theres creeps that dont.

i never used the term exploit harg I said issue. but if it wasn't an issue then they wouldn't have fixed it. i could never confirm or deny if it was an exploit or not. Was it the right thing to do? well...that's your conscience, not mine. I dont use ticket filing as confirmation due to creeps filing multiple tickets against the TR rock exploit where we couldn't hit freeps but they could hit us and they weren't banned either

I agree that it is an ongoing issue that both sides do and no one side is more innocent then the other. but you cannot say it doesn't urk you a bit when you see it happen. especially when a good friend of yours does it. just because you CAN do it...doesn't mean you are supposed to. Food for thought

I mean granted...when you think about it, it is just NPCs for armor. big deal? not really. but the question is, is that where the line is drawn.

um...when have i ever combat logged? (it's rhetorical, never), if a warg attempts to combat log and is successful then thats the freeps fault for failing, it's easy to burn down a squishy warg in 24+ seconds on any freep class with all their crits and high damage attacks, especially when they aren't fighting back (which would be the case when logging) combat logging on a warg is pointless and a waste of time which is why i and most other experienced wargs wouldn't even attempt it...nice try on the deflect whoever you are though, i'm guessing combat logging is a common occurrence for you, as well as the TR wall exploit since u brought it up. both exploits have been a problem for over a year, sad to see freeps who used to be respectable openly endorse and advise people to do them.

I agree about the tr rock one b/c u cant hit them. As for the rest i cant argue ill agree i just get sick of hearing freeps are doing this all the time when creeps do it just the same. No u didnt bring it up as an exploit others did fair enough.As for combat loggers shrug it makes me laugh as much as i dislike a certain capt and i hope he gets it before he last stands out i have to admit it makes me laugh seeing him do that it is pretty funny but not as funny as the rage when he doesnt make it lol. Az ive seen you do it 3 times that i know of especially when leon has a whole raid chasing u and youve blown everything. The other times ill be honest hard to say it seems like u lag ld or do it but i do know of 3 times youve done it. I dont care either way its just funny seeing you complain and call everything a exploit 24/7 then you do everything u complain about lol.

Originally Posted by Delmore

i never used the term exploit harg I said issue. but if it wasn't an issue then they wouldn't have fixed it. i could never confirm or deny if it was an exploit or not. Was it the right thing to do? well...that's your conscience, not mine. I dont use ticket filing as confirmation due to creeps filing multiple tickets against the TR rock exploit where we couldn't hit freeps but they could hit us and they weren't banned either

I agree that it is an ongoing issue that both sides do and no one side is more innocent then the other. but you cannot say it doesn't urk you a bit when you see it happen. especially when a good friend of yours does it. just because you CAN do it...doesn't mean you are supposed to. Food for thought

I mean granted...when you think about it, it is just NPCs for armor. big deal? not really. but the question is, is that where the line is drawn.

sad to see X do Y, X was so respectable when he was easy to kill. However I have changed my opinion about doing Y and may their children be forever pox'd with my disapproval.

lul

Originally Posted by mosphet99

I was mostly just surprised to see you more than 10 feet away from a certain higher ranked BA.

lol ya I was on /follow on Cowlick the whole time

then he logged for dinner so I logged for a bit to go walk outside in the rain and almost got ran over

So I went back inside and there were 1v1's at 3 hump so I did decently there

Fought horribly at first then I got warmed up and won most of the battles

I agree with ya on aquiring these items...just absolute pain to aquire.

Chieftians brooches and Tyrants Crests I was able to aquire solo (with my warden at relic, just takes along time or the help of a ranger and a couple of kinnies)--still very hard as the Creep NPCs are right next them, and thanks to Cowlick and shoutouts--we got rolled alot--but understandalbe--its a pvp zone.

My breaking point was trying to get the Brilliant stones; too expensive on ah, token trade-ins are very very rare, and trying the farm the Dragon/Rog with a small grp prooves pointless.

1. Creeps either have enough members to wipe the small grp i put together OR 1 solo warg will run in and pop the eggs and cause a wipe.

2. Trying to get Freeps to help me flip a couple OPs is a chore and by the time i get 2-3 flipped and try to get a grp together...Creeps have reflipped em and ppl cant get back in the Delving.

3. I finally get a grp together inside and there is already (not gonna name kins names, but they are regulars) a grp killing the Drake..and with his long CD time...no one sticks around.

HOWEVER, what really made me say "Screw it" was when I was trying to get a grp together to flip OPs and i get a pm asking if im doing the Drake, to which I respond, "yep, care to join"--to which they respond that "so-in-so kin already killed it 30min ago"

This was a lie...I keep a burg in the delving at all times to see whats going on--and I also saw a solo Freep farming stones from this particular so-in-so kin that supposedly killed it. So I asked them if they just downed the Drake, to which they said no and no one has been in hear in hours. So I logged in my burg and see this particular kin who was so nice to tell me that someone else killed the Drake, so no point in trying-- now trying to get the Drake to pop.

So not only are Creeps making it difficult to get Brilliant Stones..but Freeps are lying and letting ppl like me who try to bring PUGs/kinnies in do the work of flipping the keeps, just log in their mains and claim rights to the Drake as they were there first.

The set isnt worth the hassle....but at least I tried all outlets to aquire something I wanted without just complaining about it and not trying

your better off getting the class relic which is the 1 of the pvp set bonuses anyways and getting the raid set its equally if not more hard though but at least the raid set is worth getting. So youll have the raid set with better stats and the pvp set main bonus.

Originally Posted by Thorandril

sad to see X do Y, X was so respectable when he was easy to kill. However I have changed my opinion about doing Y and may their children be forever pox'd with my disapproval.

lul

did I say that? nope...didnt think so

Originally Posted by Rohan1240

endorsing combat logging, pretty sad.

Originally Posted by KristTsirk

I gave away so many of those things when they were worthless because I kinnie wanted them for cosmetics. I'm so dumb.



So when we run into freeps in the dof, we should kill Iinferno first because he'll be trying to log out. thx for the tip.

Originally Posted by Delmore

Combat logging just like a similar past captain...way to go

logging out in the opposing force's Keep in an area where NPC's dont auto aggro you...sounds like the TR wall/Flagroom issue that was just fixed..

Held you in a higher respect than that Dong :/

Originally Posted by Exermon

combat log = epic fail.

fight to the death, escape if you can, but to log in combat ...... bad advice to give to the OP. /sigh

Originally Posted by Delmore

I would agree with you if he didnt actually do it the other day when he was caught by creeps

Ok, so A: I never said in that post that I combat logged, generally I will be tracked or something of the sort and log out, although I will admit yes I have attempted to log out after seeing the creep, Idk, all depends on your perspective. B: never in the delving, but in DG yes, idk if that makes it justified or not.

IMO yes its a dirty little trick and in general I make every attempt to play fair unlike the majority of the players out there, but sometimes the ends justify the means-- I didnt say I endorse it when the goal is simply to gain renown but IMO its up to the player to decide to A: do it at all, and B: When to do it.

Originally Posted by Delmore

i never used the term exploit harg I said issue. but if it wasn't an issue then they wouldn't have fixed it. i could never confirm or deny if it was an exploit or not. Was it the right thing to do? well...that's your conscience, not mine. I dont use ticket filing as confirmation due to creeps filing multiple tickets against the TR rock exploit where we couldn't hit freeps but they could hit us and they weren't banned either

I agree that it is an ongoing issue that both sides do and no one side is more innocent then the other. but you cannot say it doesn't urk you a bit when you see it happen. especially when a good friend of yours does it. just because you CAN do it...doesn't mean you are supposed to. Food for thought

I mean granted...when you think about it, it is just NPCs for armor. big deal? not really. but the question is, is that where the line is drawn.

I agree completely yicky, and I personally think that it shouldn't be done, does that mean I'm going to stop? hell no, but I'm done farming brooches for the set now, just need 2 crests so stop me if you can :P ill probably just end up buying them anyway.

Originally Posted by Rohan1240

um...when have i ever combat logged? (it's rhetorical, never), if a warg attempts to combat log and is successful then thats the freeps fault for failing, it's easy to burn down a squishy warg in 24+ seconds on any freep class with all their crits and high damage attacks, especially when they aren't fighting back (which would be the case when logging) combat logging on a warg is pointless and a waste of time which is why i and most other experienced wargs wouldn't even attempt it...nice try on the deflect whoever you are though, i'm guessing combat logging is a common occurrence for you, as well as the TR wall exploit since u brought it up. both exploits have been a problem for over a year, sad to see freeps who used to be respectable openly endorse and advise people to do them.

Agreed, and I wouldnt say I'm 'endorsing' combat logging, well I guess I am, but only in a selective situation. I would never tell anyone : "hey, well next time if you think you're gonna die to that Creep raid just log out with last stand or a bunch of heals up", because in that situation it's totally pvp based, no real advantage except a higher rating and a slightly better wartab. In this situation you need to grind out 43 Brooches and 12 crests, not to mention 9 brills. Its still not a 'fair' tactic or something that I think should be allowed but again for me the ends justify the means.

I have never gotten a brilliant stone from a trade in. The brooches and crests don't bother me too much, but those stones....... "Got stones?" arggggg..... typically a trade nets me one 63 LI, some coin, and an assortment of miscellaneous items. Is there a difference based on the quests? For example would you have a better shot getting a stone turning tokens in for the Valorous Quests or better odds for a turn of two of the lower tier quests?

Even with the current state of pvp I manage to have some fun out there. When I stop having fun I do something else.

Agree with Fam about the Minstrel set. The LM set looks like it may hold some promise but it will be a while...

Originally Posted by Delmore

did I say that? nope...didnt think so

did I say you did? additional rhetoric. but if you re-read it I'm sure you can figure out who it's a whine template for.

The Drake respawns every 30 minutes after you kill her. It's when you reset her that the spawn timer is messed up. Usually the remedy is just having everyone leave the delving to let it reset for about twenty minutes.

Originally Posted by Thorandril

did I say you did? additional rhetoric. but if you re-read it I'm sure you can figure out who it's a whine template for.

Understood. apologies.

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I got full sets!!!

Awesome Pukish. Guess this means I shouldn't try to provoke you anymore. Don't know how you find the time. Oh and OMG what is wrong with your foot? Took me a while to realize you are in water.