Thread: Kinship Revamp Proposal

Sorry turbine, i will spam in this thread so many many times each time i see nobody is posting here, but i gotta do you all read that post, kinships needs a revamp and that idea is way far much better than my last one http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.p...hips-Billboard

well actually both of them could be merge i guess.

I definitely agree everything you added seems very useful and encourages kinships to raid and party together and do it all with much more organization. The additional kinship ranks would be very nice.

/signed

Turbine, give this man a job!

Let me be the 500th person to congratulate you on the ideas, presentation and thoroughness. Personally, I don't like ranks in a kin as motivation for participating or as a reward. My kin, Leaves of Laurelin, has two ranks, entry and full-fledged. We fortunately have had nearly no problems with people abusing their privileges so I imagine we will go on with our way of functioning even with your brilliant system in place.
And I do hope Turbine uses your ideas! Bravo!

Originally Posted by HIron

Let me be the 500th person to congratulate you on the ideas, presentation and thoroughness. Personally, I don't like ranks in a kin as motivation for participating or as a reward. My kin, Leaves of Laurelin, has two ranks, entry and full-fledged. We fortunately have had nearly no problems with people abusing their privileges so I imagine we will go on with our way of functioning even with your brilliant system in place.
And I do hope Turbine uses your ideas! Bravo!

Additional ranks I know won't be wanted or needed in every kin which is why I put in the option to disable certain ranks. The kin leader can decide how many of these ranks they want to use.

Agreed the idea seems to be to enable as many additional tools as one can to teh kin leaders toolbox, it does not mean every feature must be used, rather, that each feature can be used to overall re-enforce each kinleaders preferd point of view.


I would like to add an additional suggestion, That a feature be created for players searching for a kin, Currently it is widly unknown on our server that to view online members who are not anonymous all you need to do is a filter search with teh kinships name involved.
I would suggest a user interface panel that allows for a player to select a search preference based on certain selectable peramiters, such as: Number of players, average level, Activity, Alliance, So on so forth. The user panel could also be used to identify who is an officer and who is a kinsmen/recruit, because teh current system does not support this unless you do an individual inspection.

A panel such as this could also be used to select a box that says your looking for a kin, that puts your name on a user database, that could be customized to your preferences, much like teh forums use a number system to rank teh importance of certain gameplay elements for each player/kinship to better fix players with kins they would find suiting.

I know its far fetched but part of revamping kinships could be taken as revamping the system in which players accesss certain kins.

i dunno im drunk, and its really late i may be way far off on this one.........

Originally Posted by Fulksayyan

dunno im drunk, and its really late i may be way far off on this one.........

You should get drunk more often then because that's a realy good idea.

Over all I still like this proposal. I see it as a way to encurage perticapation from every kin member. I always found it pointless for someone to join a kin but never do anything with the kin.

Just wanted to say.....

I <3 you!!

But in all seriousness. Amazing post...Great ideas, great supporting artwork!! If Turbine doesn't get started on making this a reality they are crazy!!

/signed

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rep'd as well.

seems the comments shown when reppin isn't shown so.

stuff like this should be standard in today's game. ( lack of creativity on the game maker's part is suppose )

daoc = dark age of camelot - has this stuff to a certain extend.
and its way older than this game is.

uhm this thread is in second page, time to make it goes to the top

Please turbine, read the first posts and give that guy's idea a chance.

Originally Posted by Saelyth

uhm this thread is in second page, time to make it goes to the top

Please turbine, read the first posts and give that guy's idea a chance.

Well I'm feeling cynical today so sorry for this.

But if enough of us vip's decide to cancel our subscriptions and stop playing the game all together, with a good chunk of the f2p. I bet Turbine is going to get their A*R*S*E* moving to work on this, with a post that states.. hey hold on there, we are working on implementing it, don't leave.

sarcasm and cynicism apart, this idea merits to be place in the game in it's entirety. This Idea along might be enough to get them to win a second consecutive MMPORG of the year.

Magnificent thread! Yes to everything. and it is due time for changes

Kinships need to get some love, remember they are one of the reasons why people keep playing the game and come back. Especially guild quests will help give a sense of going in the same direction and achieving something together

This...is...COOL! Turbine should take a good look at this thread and think about adding what you have here.

Dude, fantastically done. I think Turbine needs to adopt this new Kinship and pay you an ??? load of money. The two best things that stand out in my mind are the increase in Kinship Ranks and Alliances. This is something that definitely needs to be implemented. I would love to be able to have an Alliance with another Kinship, have a separate chat so when you're looking for more people to go Raiding or whatnot to go into that chat and offer a proposal. Having more Ranks in a Kinship makes sense. There needs to be more incentive, since F2P, to have people in a Kinship stick around or have a larger role. Adding the ranks would make people want to stick around longer, take even more of an active role in helping the Kinship focus on it's goals or just helping other Kinship members. Again, I can't say how awesome you made everything look.

Excellent. looks like a blending of some of the successful groups I have seen in other games with some powerful additions of your own.
Kin House upgrades and Superior crafting tables would be nice as a reward for points as well as your deed and trait system. Not regular tables mind you since Turbine wants to keep the zones populated but the current Superior table system is extremely inconvenient.
Anyway, love your ideas. Hopefully the PTB are paying attention.

Founder /signed

Originally Posted by Valmarill

Excellent. looks like a blending of some of the successful groups I have seen in other games with some powerful additions of your own.
Kin House upgrades and Superior crafting tables would be nice as a reward for points as well as your deed and trait system. Not regular tables mind you since Turbine wants to keep the zones populated but the current Superior table system is extremely inconvenient.
Anyway, love your ideas. Hopefully the PTB are paying attention.

Crafting in kin house would be a nice addition, at the moment we don't really use our kin house for anything other than storage and occasional meets.

Better tools for organizing a kinship? Absolutely. Customizable ranks and permissions, and better scheduling tools are much needed and ought to already be there.

Kinship perks and special rewards? BAD IDEA. This takes emphasis from the individuals that make up the kin and puts it on the kin itself. It discourages working with people outside the kin. It punishes solo players.

Anyone else been watching WoW's new guild system at work?

One of the most devoted and contributed posts I've seen on the forums. And I solely agree with you. This new kinship you have developed would augment the social connection between players which therefore would make the system infinitely better! The idea of a new trait addition and alliances would bring each server to help each other and, well, be more friendly (not saying that they aren't friendly at the moment).

Excellent Job!

Stupendous! Fabulous! Well Done!

Galuhad you have outdone yourself! Your Kinship revamp ideas are spot on!

Changes to the Kinship feature of LotRO is well overdue. The GUI work and the system Galuhad has proposed IMO are those a very LARGE majority of LotRO players would support and be very happy to have implemented very soon in the game.

It would be purely grand if these changes could be part of the new expansion for Fall 2011!

Once again I commend you Galuhad on a job well done!

I just came across this post today and all I can say is WOW!!!!
This is absolutely a great idea I love everything I have see the OP posted. I hope Turbine takes a serious look at this and dedicates an entire update to this system it would be awesome.

I too am quite impressed with this proposal. I have always found the kinship system in this game very rudimentary compared to pretty much any other modern MMO, and these much needed changes would add another level of improvement on what is in many other aspects an excellent game.

I hope Turbine takes some of these suggestions into consideration.

Excellent post, writeup, and suggestions. Hopefully Turbine is looking at this.

What? This thread has fallen to page 2? This must not be!

Thanks for the replies, I really hope Turbine are able to do something. It's something that will positively impact the majority of players.

You Good Player, are a Kinship God in my Eyes, I shall pray to you every time I look at the Pitiful state of the Kinship Matter.

Your ideas NEED to be in this game.

This is my First Real post on these Forums (other than my guild recruit spam), I just felt I really had to lend what little support I could to this GREAT idea.

/signed. Great work! Lets hope this get hit on and then PvP gets someone like you to help Turbine with improving (in my humble opinion) the only part of this game that I will not touch with a 10m Staff of Light!

Excellent work! This type of kinship setup would really be a great addition to the game.

Simply wow! Turbine is cazy if they don't do something with the welldesigned ideas presented here.

Me, and many in my kin, were enthousiastic about it, and we want updated kinship features asap! Keep your players ingame, Turbine, work on kinships - they have been neglected too long.

This is without doubt the best suggestion from the community in the history of the game.
Make this happen, Turbine.

I support this 100%. Would love to see this implement with The Rise of Isenguard" expansion this fall.

Solid, well considered ideas...check.

Universality; clear benefit and value to kinships of differing goals, ages, sizes, and memberships....check.

Multiple tunable knobs to keep the system regression worthy from a balance perspective....check.

An extremely commendable job of presenting the idea in a clear, comprehensive manner...check.

Sufficient value from a consumer perspective to justify development costs via increased retention (hell, I'd pay a higher subscription to have it)...check.



Turbine, you have no reason not to do this. Amazing work.

Fantastic work, i really hope to see something like this in the near future.

Great post! Lots of good ideas here. Snap to, Turbine. Your veteran players would appreciate this kind of attention.

Awesome! Hope Turbine reads this.

I have said it once and ill keep saying it untill this is implemented, this is an exelant proposal. its exactly what the game needs to put some life and purpus back in to being in a kinshiop. I am 110% for this and i hope to be reading it in some patch notes or expantion notes

Awesome ideas! As a current kin leader I would love to c some of these idea's implemented in game.

Can a dev comment if there are currently any plans for a kinship revamp? Whether it's something being considered for Isengard, or a later update? It's such an important part of the game it would be nice to know there's something to look forward to.

edit: There's also another 50 or so positive responses to this thread at the following forum: http://lotrocommunity.com/forum/topi...stions-forums/

Originally Posted by Galuhad

Can a dev comment if there are currently any plans for a kinship revamp?

I would guess in this case - no news are bad news for this topic.

Turbine! Do this!