Thread: Beleriand vs. Westernesse in the Moors

Should I put Beleriand or Westernesse on my main-hand sword for the moors? Running a dual-wielding champ and my off-hand weapon has Beleriand. I wonder if I should mix it up or double down on Beleriand? Currently have common damage and +7 orc on my main. Considering either switching to Westernesse + orc (from Enedwaith) or Beleriand + orc from Lothlorien barters.

Any advice appreciated, thank you,

I'm quite sure that beleriand is the way to go. Presently, westernesse is the damage type de jour because of the PvE content (the dead). So more creeps are stacking westernesse because of it.

as of right now, beleriend, reavers have a bug on their westernesse mitigation from like 20 some % to 37%

Although they fixed that with this new update, so really anything after the update.

Ancient-Dwarf.

No joke, trust me.

Much appreciated for all of the feedback - while the opinions differ a bit (had never even considered Ancient Dwarf...so that's food for thought) - I appreciate the input

There isn't really a "damage-type to rule them all" as far as creep mitigations go. They can slot for extra mitigations versus Beleriand etc. while sacrificing in another area. I'd assume that alot of freeps have beleriand on their weapons in PvE land so they don't bother to change it out when they enter the Ettenmoors, I know I don't. Best guess would be that more creeps trait beleriand mitigation than anything else but that's just me. I'd agree with RGilthanas on Ancient-Dwarf. As long as it's not common, creep common mitigation is way above all the other damage types. My r6 Warleader has something around 45% if I remember correctly.

Is there anywhere that I can get AD + Orc damage? I can get Bele +Orc from barter in Loth and West + Orc from barter in Enedwaith......anywhere to get AD + Orc?

Thanks again for all the feedback

Don't think there is anyway to get AD+orc damage, would be nice tho.

Imo, any creep who specs for a certain damage type is stupid.

Damage/health corruptions>specific damage defense corruptions.

Mits are already good enough anyway :P.

Here's a list of best damage types against creeps:

Beleriand>1st best for Reaver/defiler, 2nd best for spider, 3rd best for warg
Westernesse> 1st best for Warg, 2nd best for reaver, 3rd best for spider
Ancient Dwarf>1st best for Spider, 2nd best for warg, 3rd best for reaver

Uruks r equal with all of them.

Personally, I use bele+spider( good for reavers and spiders) cuz I believe its the best all-around damage (wargs have lowest damage resistances out of all them, so its pretty strong vs them too.) I just checked recently.

All the pros use common damage.

Pick something that isn't used by every freep. I know we are Creeps, but we have been taught how to look at the damage used against us and protect ourselves from it. If every freep is using "x" type of damage, I'll protect myself against it.

Originally Posted by RGilthanas

Ancient-Dwarf.

No joke, trust me.

^ if you're between two types that are relatively common go off the board with the one no one is talking about.

Originally Posted by KillGore81

All the pros use common damage.

no not common...ingnore this fool!
shadow is the best way to go

Originally Posted by Krishal

no not common...ingnore this fool!
shadow is the best way to go

Creep shadow mitigation is equal to or even greater than their common mitagation.

So please, bring your shadow damage bows! You shall become unstoppable and their are abolutely no corrosive/corrupting influences caused by the damage type that will devour your soul and/or turn you to the shadow!

=P

Originally Posted by VersatileArcher

Don't think there is anyway to get AD+orc damage, would be nice tho.

Imo, any creep who specs for a certain damage type is stupid.

Damage/health corruptions>specific damage defense corruptions.

Mits are already good enough anyway :P.

Here's a list of best damage types against creeps:

Beleriand>1st best for Reaver/defiler, 2nd best for spider, 3rd best for warg
Westernesse> 1st best for Warg, 2nd best for reaver, 3rd best for spider
Ancient Dwarf>1st best for Spider, 2nd best for warg, 3rd best for reaver

Uruks r equal with all of them.

Personally, I use bele+spider( good for reavers and spiders) cuz I believe its the best all-around damage (wargs have lowest damage resistances out of all them, so its pretty strong vs them too.) I just checked recently.

Where can one get a Beleriand + Spider scroll for their LI? Also what is the best Dwarf-make damage offhand? Is there a + to Warg damage off-hand one can get? Or Dwarf-make +orc/warg/spider?

Further tangental question...is it just me or are spiders by far and away the most hideous class freep OR creep on the moors? I got rooted then stunned immediately after by a spider and the stun was insanely long, not to mention that my find footing ability has a >1 second window to hit it before it went grey again. If it wasn't for spiders I would almost never be killed.

It seems to me most of the Creep classes are fairly reasonable. The warg tracking of hobbits seems a bit sick if you are a hobbit burglar and there are several wargs, but I can live with that. Chain root/stun from spiders with insanity 70+ poison seems a bit much when combined with web and all the other spider goodies. I'm going to roll a spider and just go afk while a war party gets me a few ranks and then roll freeps who spent 5+ months just to be on par with me. Seriously, spiders....WAY over powered unless you have absolutely elite gear and again that takes many months whereas spiders can just hang back until their warband gets them to R6 or so. Lameness.

Not sure why Turbine allows a root followed instantly by a stun when you can't chain stun. Any other classes have root and stun besides spider? Maybe LM or RK does but Spider seems to have a tad more armor and morale not to mention mitigation and again without MONTHS of grinding.

Originally Posted by Renlotho

Any other classes have root and stun besides spider?

Uhhhh, Burglars do. I lol'd

Originally Posted by OGsam

Uhhhh, Burglars do. I lol'd

Uhmmmm..... I lol'd too - burgs have no roots

Originally Posted by Cherep

Uhmmmm..... I lol'd too - burgs have no roots

I lol'd a third time, because Burglars do have a root.

http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Skill:A_Small_Snag

Derp.

Originally Posted by Jlomontego

I lol'd a third time, because Burglars do have a root.

I lol'd a fourth time because that's what I do to fit in when I don't understand what other people are talking about.

Originally Posted by OGsam

Uhhhh, Burglars do. I lol'd

I suppose it's possible to stun and then root moving up the crit chain and with some fancy button mashing. I will have to try that and here I thought small snag was garbage. Touche'.