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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    I just noticed this.

    __i___e__ so we know so far that this is the truth.

    we want it to be minstrel.

    but then there is a certain other name that is well known here.

    sapience
    look at his name, what do you see? there is an I and a E (hey that rhymed, anyways..)

    sapIencE

    though there is a few spaces that are different then what he has, he could put a tm after the name so that his name would be interpreted as: sapience(tm)

    also yes I am reading way to much into this, I am just bored and want to see if I was right in our guess that it is the minstrel.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeham49 View Post
    I just had this thought, If you LOOK at his post, that is a dev diary on a class. Now yes that really does mean a class diary, But here is my thought and thought process.

    1. But he also mentions that there are 5 dev diaries so far.
    2. We know that two classes will be updated, sapience never said that these two coming tomorrow and Thursday were the only class ones to be posted.
    3. He also never clarified if these dev dairies were for the next update or for the expansion.
    4. We also know that there is an expansion coming as well.
    5. What if _I___E_ isn't the minstrel
    6. If point 5 was correct then what is it?
    so the thought is, (which also was inspired by Macfeast saying "what is minstrel" even if he was joking.) is: what if it is a new class that sapience is saying? or about to tell us, he did this game with the new volume name, why not with the new class? Now this thought could be wrong if sapience posts the answer that it is the minstrel while I was typing this, but if he says nope, think for a moment then. I might be right. right?
    I like the way you think! So I'll play along.

    1 - Yes I did. There are 5 developer diaries that are completed. Two you'll see this week.

    2 - Correct again!

    3&4 Whoops, you've lost the scent. We only publish developer diaries related to the next update. There's not much point in publishing Isengard dev diaries when the expansion isn't due until Fall. Even I'm not that mean.

    5 - _I____E_ . Even I'm not sure what else it could be! Afterall, I did say the two diaries this week were class diaries.

    6 - Point 5 was not correct. It's Minstrel.

    And no it can't be Sapience. Becuase Sapience would be ___ie__e. (Count the spaces)
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    I like the way you think! So I'll play along.

    1 - Yes I did. There are 5 developer diaries that are completed. Two you'll see this week.

    2 - Correct again!

    3&4 Whoops, you've lost the scent. We only publish developer diaries related to the next update. There's not much point in publishing Isengard dev diaries when the expansion isn't due until Fall. Even I'm not that mean.

    5 - _I____E_ . Even I'm not sure what else it could be! Afterall, I did say the two diaries this week were class diaries.

    6 - Point 5 was not correct. I'ts Minstrel.

    And no it can't be Sapience. Becuase Sapience would be ___ie__e. (Count the spaces)

    yeah I figured I might be wrong and you might have actualy said that. But I am still glad you liked the thought process I did there, I am also glad that I was right on my guess that it was the minstrel (also happy for everyone else who got it to).

    Also the sapience guess was a pure joke, but I still thought it interesting that at least two letters of your name are close, or sort of close to a minstrels, and both contain the same letters.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    I like the way you think! So I'll play along.

    1 - Yes I did. There are 5 developer diaries that are completed. Two you'll see this week.

    2 - Correct again!

    3&4 Whoops, you've lost the scent. We only publish developer diaries related to the next update. There's not much point in publishing Isengard dev diaries when the expansion isn't due until Fall. Even I'm not that mean.

    5 - _I____E_ . Even I'm not sure what else it could be! Afterall, I did say the two diaries this week were class diaries.

    6 - Point 5 was not correct. I'ts Minstrel.

    And no it can't be Sapience. Becuase Sapience would be ___ie__e. (Count the spaces)
    well lets try again then.
    1. hmm interesting COMPLETED you say? is there some un completed for possibly next update?
    2. If I'm correct on point number two could that mean more class stuff in the future?
    after point two it is clear of what you mean and I probably can't look into the interpretation/meanings of them and be right again.

    Thanks for letting us guess.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    SQUEEEE!!!!!

    I thought for sure we'd be last! Now I must try not to get my hopes too high.
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeham49 View Post
    well lets try again then.
    1. hmm interesting COMPLETED you say? is there some un completed for possibly next update?
    2. If I'm correct on point number two could that mean more class stuff in the future?
    after point two it is clear of what you mean and I probably can't look into the interpretation/meanings of them and be right again.

    Thanks for letting us guess.
    I would really hope we'd be getting class updates in the future. You know, what with all the other expansions and level cap increases and the like.

    That said, why would there be any point in writing a dev diary for changes not happening for at least half a year? That's assuming no changes to the coming changes change the changes in the expansion dev diaries.
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by ilikeham49 View Post
    well lets try again then.
    1. hmm interesting COMPLETED you say? is there some un completed for possibly next update?
    2. If I'm correct on point number two could that mean more class stuff in the future?
    after point two it is clear of what you mean and I probably can't look into the interpretation/meanings of them and be right again.

    Thanks for letting us guess.
    1- Good catch. There are more than 5 developer diaries for Update 2.
    2- This is technically a repeat of your previous #2, which I already said was correct (There are more than 2 classes being updated for Update 2).
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    I think Minstrel was kind of inevitable- getting rid of Radiance means that I suspect Song of the Hopeful Heart will HAVE to be upgraded somehow.. No minstrel I know has slotted that legendary since it was a mandatory in the pre-Moria days. Here's hoping we get some skills that help the group out as far as hope goes!

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by qannadi View Post
    I think Minstrel was kind of inevitable- getting rid of Radiance means that I suspect Song of the Hopeful Heart will HAVE to be upgraded somehow.. No minstrel I know has slotted that legendary since it was a mandatory in the pre-Moria days. Here's hoping we get some skills that help the group out as far as hope goes!
    My minstrel traits and uses it for soloing, since he hasn't gotten past the first 3 legendaries, and it can be useful with random bosses that have dread, when I don't feel like wasting a hope token. Buuut... yeah, it could use an update. =D

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    _i____e_ can also spell Birdgler, a burglar that uses ravens as knives. Or Girthien, a particularly stocky tank class.

    So my question is, how many pumpkin pies would it take to make PvMP free?
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    It's* Minstrel.
    If I could give you rep, I so would!


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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    tomorrow you'll be getting the ________ Developer Dairy
    who is the ________ dev these days?


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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    Well now that would depend on what kind of pie? I mean, telling you that tomorrow you'll be getting the ________ Developer Dairy has to be worth Pumpkin pie!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    If it's something I've said here then it's public, so yes.

    Also, you guys dissapoint me, I thought you were all much quicker than that. You really should LOOK at what I said.
    You guys are all missing the REAL clue here. As Sapience has said, look closely at what he wrote. We're actually getting a Developer DAIRY tomorrow!!! What insane thing will that turn out to be? All we know now is that he charges pumpkin pie in exchange for it.

    Oh and Sapience, if we're not getting a Warden update after these dairy Minstrels are given a chance to chew their cud, we'll need more than pumpkin pie to calm the masses. Hook us up, bro! Wardens need some love (and improvement).

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Good, five dev diaries which two of them are class related.
    I guess one of the other three is about radiance?And what about the other two..anyone has a guess?
    I would like at least one of those to be related with new content ,such as Book updates or even a new map

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Dankanthegood View Post
    Good, five dev diaries which two of them are class related.
    I guess one of the other three is about radiance?And what about the other two..anyone has a guess?
    I would like at least one of those to be related with new content ,such as Book updates or even a new map
    Look above your post... Sapience stated there are more than 5 dev diaries
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Admo View Post
    What if we sent along some Cool Whip as well? We all know pie tastes better with cool whip!
    Ewwwwww how dare you defile a pumpkin pie with that...that....stuff, you have to use real whipped cream for a pumpkin pie, not canned, powdered or frozen, the real stuff you where you take cream and whip it mmmmmmm

    Oh and Sapience is sneaky - he posted this in another thread - they probably gave him pumpkin pie with real whipped cream.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    A couple of new pieces for you.

    Two of the three classes are Minstrel and Burglar. Dev Diaries for those two classes will be posted tomorrow (Minstrel) and Thursday (Burglar).
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by geoboy View Post
    Sooooooo excited. I'm just gonna sit at work tomorrow and press F5 again and again and again.....

    .... wait, I do that already.
    Get a life Nerves....
    Oh wait i spend a large amount of my work time checking of the forums too...

    OK carry on...
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Dankanthegood View Post
    Good, five dev diaries which two of them are class related.
    I guess one of the other three is about radiance?And what about the other two..anyone has a guess?
    I would like at least one of those to be related with new content ,such as Book updates or even a new map
    5 dev diaries,

    3 class related minstrel and burg for sure,

    1 LI revamp we know we're getting the first now and one in 6 months

    1 rad removal/instance talk

    My bets anyway cause we know they have 3 class updates we know they have a LI revamp and the rad kind of goes with the new raids as well, and that nicely fits in the 5 diaries we know we're getting.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Dankanthegood View Post
    I would like at least one of those to be related with new content ,such as Book updates or even a new map
    Ah, but Dev Diaries tend to be posted as a lead-up to a release, often during the month or so immediately prior. Not only so people won't have to wait so long between diary and release, but likely also so the staffers don't end up getting people excited over details that change before release (or that hit a snag and get delayed).

    That said, there's a good thread about upcoming plans here. Which happen to include all those things and more.


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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Q1 update !! We want new raids please !!!

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Unique View Post
    Ewwwwww how dare you defile a pumpkin pie with that...that....stuff, you have to use real whipped cream for a pumpkin pie, not canned, powdered or frozen, the real stuff you where you take cream and whip it mmmmmmm

    Oh and Sapience is sneaky - he posted this in another thread - they probably gave him pumpkin pie with real whipped cream.
    I bet champs get no love.

    Yet again.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    3&4 Whoops, you've lost the scent. We only publish developer diaries related to the next update. There's not much point in publishing Isengard dev diaries when the expansion isn't due until Fall. Even I'm not that mean.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonicLemming View Post
    I bet champs get no love.

    Yet again.

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    I mean sure, it's nice to get the special treatment every so often. But outside crossbow and great-club use, I can't say as I can think of much we're lacking...


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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    5 - _I____E_ . Even I'm not sure what else it could be! Afterall, I did say the two diaries this week were class diaries.
    My money is on birgler.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Jadzi View Post
    But we're champs. We're walking, SHING-SHINGing awesome.

    I mean sure, it's nice to get the special treatment every so often. But outside crossbow and great-club use, I can't say as I can think of much we're lacking...
    only thing i can think of is maybe an upgraded corruption remover. ours is kinda unreliable atm.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by gonewhaned View Post
    5 dev diaries,

    3 class related minstrel and burg for sure,

    1 LI revamp we know we're getting the first now and one in 6 months

    1 rad removal/instance talk

    My bets anyway cause we know they have 3 class updates we know they have a LI revamp and the rad kind of goes with the new raids as well, and that nicely fits in the 5 diaries we know we're getting.

    Goneric
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    The new raid cluster

    2 more things to add for dev diaries.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    I was so hoping for LI news instead of class update news since it benefits everyone and I'm so sick of the current system.
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Namesse View Post
    My money is on burgler.
    One can only hope.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    I'm just gonna make a random guess and say that one of the dev diaries will be about the north downs revamp

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    I guess we will be getting the following dev diaries:
    - 3x Class diaries (Burg and mincy confirmed, 1 unknown)
    - 3x? Removal of radiance/new raid cluster (I guess/hope it will be one with 2 3-mans, one with 2 6-mans and 1 with raid)
    - Volume 2 soloable update
    - Volume 3 bk3 (Or V2 and V3 combined)
    - Legendary weapons update
    - Cosmetic system update

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Sapience View Post
    You really should LOOK at what I said.
    /look

    Nope. Doesn't work. Maybe a different emote...?
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Apple Pie for a kinship update!!!
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    With the Volume 2 revamp scheduled for this update, I'm betting one of the Dev Diaries is going to be about that.
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Yay! My Minstrel will get all new icons again!!

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    Thumbs up Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Actually this has me uber excited!
    The only part Im even remotely dreading is the new 65 1st ages. I just finally got my champs wep and rune set with good legacies and now Im gonna have to redo them. But thats where we have fun! So in the end, I chalk it up as a win

    The Mini update looks cool. Most of it went over my head, mainly cuz mine is only lvl 43 and I dont know him all that well, but still, from what I know, It looks to be a good improvement.

    Hope we hear more soon.

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Let's get burglarizing!
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    Question Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    what's the 3rd class? Sapience tell us plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......
    can't wait omgomg

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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    Quote Originally Posted by Scapula View Post
    _i____e_ can also spell Birdgler, a burglar that uses ravens as knives. Or Girthien, a particularly stocky tank class.

    So my question is, how many pumpkin pies would it take to make PvMP free?
    It also almost spells Piemaven. I am deeply disappointed that we do not have a Piemaven class (I know about the title, but that's just not the same).
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    Re: About those dev diaries sapience

    I would guess, from a post from Graalx2 a couple of months ago that the 3rd class being update in this patch is the Hunter. From what i saw from the Burglar dev diary (also from Graalx2), i'm not counting on anything substantial like the minstrel update...
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