Thread: What happens if... answers about the account types

Originally Posted by AllGoodGifts

Are the two extra character slots gained by purchasing the MoM physical box permanent? They will stick around after my VIP subscription ends?

I was F2P (2 slots). Then I bought some turbine points and was bumped up to premium (3 slots). Then I picked up a MoM box and entered the code. Now I have 7 slots. Presumably that is because I got two from the MoM expansion itself and two more from the one-month VIP access. In three weeks do I drop down to five slots? Or three?

Yes, the four additional slots you got with the MoM box were two for the expansion itself (which are permanent) and two for VIP (which you'll lose when dropping back to Premium). So you'll drop down to five slots unless you renew the VIP access. (If you have more than 5 characters on a server at that point, you'll get the choice of which ones to keep access to. Extra characters will be locked until you buy slots for them.)

It was already mentioned in the OP, but even if you hadn't gone premium with a TP purchase prior to getting the MoM box, buying that box is also a way of spending real money, so in that case you would have gone from 2 slots to 7 and then dropped back down to 5 after a month. The slot for Premium (and all the other Premium advantages) could also come from that purchase if you hadn't already had them.

I have a question I haven't found the answer to, but it's probably stupid and that's why the answer isn't written anywhere.... ::laughs::

Anyway, if I have a Premium account and purchase the MoM expansion, do I also have to purchase SoA and apply that first or does the MoM box include SoA quests, deeds, etc..?

Originally Posted by JustCheckin

Anyway, if I have a Premium account and purchase the MoM expansion, do I also have to purchase SoA and apply that first or does the MoM box include SoA quests, deeds, etc..?

The MoM box code gets you permanent access to Moria quests and deeds, the RK/Warden classes and 2 characters slots. It gets you a month of VIP, during which time you'll be able to access all SoA quests and deeds, but once that VIP time is up you will drop back to Premium and lose access to all SoA areas again (until you subscribe or purchase them with Turbine Points).

Thanks! That's what I needed to know.

Originally Posted by JustCheckin

I have a question I haven't found the answer to, but it's probably stupid and that's why the answer isn't written anywhere.... ::laughs::

Anyway, if I have a Premium account and purchase the MoM expansion, do I also have to purchase SoA and apply that first or does the MoM box include SoA quests, deeds, etc..?

SoA quests and deeds for Ered Luin, The Shire, Bree-land, and the Lone Lands are provided free to all.
Other SoA quests and deeds are provided free to current VIPs or are purchased a-la-carte by region by Premium (or F2P) players.
The only thing a purchase of an SoA box would get you is a month of VIP.

Edit: Curses, too slow! :P

Originally Posted by JustCheckin

I have a question I haven't found the answer to, but it's probably stupid and that's why the answer isn't written anywhere.... ::laughs::

Anyway, if I have a Premium account and purchase the MoM expansion, do I also have to purchase SoA and apply that first or does the MoM box include SoA quests, deeds, etc..?

Neither the SoA box nor the MoM box give you lasting access to SoA content that isn't available F2P anyway. The SoA box is now only good for a month of VIP access. If you want to use it for that, though (since you might be able to get one cheaper than buying a month's VIP access directly), its code has to be entered prior to entering the MoM box code or buying the MoM expansion from the store. The SoA code cannot be used after getting the expansion.

Edit: Updated with the new Update 3 instances and information on the Rise of Isengard pre-order options
Edit: Updated with changes stemming from Rise of Isengard release. RoI pre-order options replaced with RoI purchase options
Edit: Updated with details of the Mithril Edition

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What happens if...

...I establish a free account

- You receive 2 character slots per server
- You can create characters from any of the game's 4 races: Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men
- You can create characters in 7 classes: Burglar, Captain, Champion, Guardian, Hunter, Lore-master or Minstrel
- You can create an Orc Reaver character in Monster Play
- You cannot create characters in the premium classes: Rune-keeper or Warden
- You cannot create characters in the other Monster classes
- You can level your characters all the way to the level cap (currently level 65)
- You have access to all regions of the game world except the Ettenmoors (the Player vs Monster Player region, only your Monster characters can enter here)
- You have access to all quests and deeds in 4 regions: Ered Luin, the Shire, Bree-land and the Lonelands
- You have access to tasks in all regions where they exist (currently implemented up to Eregion)
- You have access to all of the quests that make up the epic quest line
- You have access to the Legendary Item system
- You have access to the first 7 ranks of Skirmish traits
- Your characters cannot quest for the riding skill
- Your characters have three inventory bags
- Your characters are limited to 2 Gold each
- Your characters cannot mail gold
- Your characters have anti-spam features on mail and chat limiting repeated chat or in game mail
- Your characters are limited to 2 Virtue Traits, 2 Racial Traits, 2 Class Traits and 1 Legendary Trait at a time
- Your monster characters are limited to 2 Corruption Traits, 2 Racial Traits, 2 Class Traits and 0 Appearance Traits at a time
- You can purchase items from the Auction House, but cannot post items for sale
- You have access to the first 2 skirmishes along with all skirmishes associated with the epic quest line
- You can craft items and advance your crafting skill through all 6 crafting tiers
- You can join a crafting guild and reach Acquaintance standing
- You can earn Turbine Points in-game which can be used to unlock the majority of game content. Regular play will produce a good amount of TP. Unlocking ALL game content without purchasing Turbine Points is possible but extremely time-consuming.



...I buy Turbine Points with real money

- Your account is permanently elevated to a Premium account
- You gain 1 additional character slot (in addition to any previously purchased)
- All your current and future characters' gold cap is increased to 5 Gold
- All your current and future characters are able to trade and mail gold
- All your current and future characters receive a more lenient anti-spam limitation on chat and in-game mail
- All your current and future characters can list 5 items each in the auction house
- You permanently receive a high priority in the login queue if servers are full
- You permanently receive full access to the forums and other community features
- You receive full access to customer service (contacting a GM via in-game support tickets) for 30 days



...I subscribe and become a VIP

While subscribed, you gain:

- All 5 bag slots permanently unlocked on any character you log in with
- All trait slots permanently unlocked on any character you log in with (including Monster characters)
- Ability to trade and mail gold
- No anti-spam limitation on chat or in-game mail
- No gold cap on any character you log in with
- Access to Swift Travel permanently unlocked on any character you log in with
- 3 character slots (if upgrading from F2P, 2 character slots if upgrading from Premium)
- Access to all quests, deeds, instances and skirmishes in North Downs, Evendim, Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, Angmar, Forochel, Eregion, Lothlorien and Enedwaith
- Access to all instances not bound to a quest pack/expansion - including Inn of the Forsaken and Halls of Night
- 500TP per month
- Highest priority in the login queue if servers are full
- Full access to the forums and other community features
- Full access to crafting guild advancement
- Access to the slow Bree-Land starter pony at level 5 (200 in-game silver)
- Access to the Riding Skill quest at level 20
- 20 Wardrobe slots
- Ability to spend destiny points
- Full access to Monster Play (including all Monster classes) and the Ettenmoors (PvMP) on both sides
- Full access to customer service (contacting a GM via in-game support tickets)
- Rest XP for all characters
- Your characters can list 30 items each in the auction house



...my subscription ends

- Your account is permanently elevated to a Premium account
- All characters logged in while VIP keep the unlocks for bags, traits, gold cap and swift travel. New characters will have the Premium restrictions (see "...I buy Turbine Points with real money")
- All monster characters logged in while VIP keep the unlocks for traits
- You lose access* to all quests, deeds and instances in North Downs, Evendim, Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, Angmar, Forochel, Eregion, Lothlorien and Enedwaith. Quests and deeds already in your log can be completed (just the specific quest/deed, not the chain)
- You lose access* to all skirmishes with the exception of Trouble in Tuckborough, Siege of Gondamon and those associated with the epic quest line
- You lose access* to all instances not bound to a quest pack/expansion - including Inn of the Forsaken and Halls of Night
- You lose 2 character slots. If you do not have 2 empty character slots, you will have to select characters to temporarily lock until your account has enough slots to support them
- You no longer receive 500TP each month
- You fall back to a high priority in the login queue if servers are full
- You lose access to crafting guild advancement. Any advancement already achieved is maintained
- You lose access to the riding skill quest. Characters who have already completed it do not lose the skill
- You lose 20 wardrobe slots. Existing items in the wardrobe are not deleted, but no new items can be added until your total wardrobe items are less than your current wardrobe size
- You lose the ability to spend destiny points
- You lose access to Monster Play and the Ettenmoors (PvMP) except for the Reaver class. All other Monster classes will be locked*, but your Monster characters will not be deleted.
- You lose access to customer service (contacting a GM via in-game support tickets)
- Your characters no longer gain Rest XP (any amassed Rest XP is maintained)
- Your characters can only list 5 items each in the auction house

* Note that you will NEVER lose access to a quest pack, instance, skirmish or class you previously purchased with Turbine Points.



...I resubscribe

- Everything which was lost when your subscription ended (above) is reinstated


...I purchase a Shadows of Angmar retail box/code and apply the code.

- This ONLY works if you have NOT applied a Shadows of Angmar OR Mines of Moria code yet.
- You gain a month of VIP access (or extend your existing subscription by a month) and all of the benefits that entails (including the 500TP stipend)
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'



...I purchase a Mines of Moria expansion (Turbine, not Codemasters) box/code and apply the code.

- This ONLY works if you have NOT applied a Mines of Moria code yet.
- You gain a month of VIP access (or extend your existing subscription by a month) and all of the benefits that entails (including the 500TP stipend)
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the Warden and Runekeeper classes
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Moria
- You gain permanent access to the first 15 ranks of Skirmish traits
- You gain 2 character slots (in addition to any you have as F2P/Premium/VIP or have purchased)
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'



...I purchase the Mines of Moria expansion from the LOTRO store

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the Warden and Runekeeper classes
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Moria
- You gain permanent access to the first 15 ranks of Skirmish traits
- You gain 2 character slots (in addition to any you have as F2P/Premium/VIP or have purchased)



...I purchase the Mines of Moria quest pack from the LOTRO store

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Moria



...I purchase the Rise of Isengard Legendary Edition

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the Isengard expansion (including the Isengard quest pack, Draigoch Raid and Isengard instance cluster)
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Dunland, Gap of Rohan and Nan Curunír
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Trollshaws, Eregion, Moria, Lothlorien and Mirkwood
- You are granted 1000 Turbine Points
- You receive 3 cosmetic armour sets and 3 horses on all characters, current and future
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'



...I purchase the Rise of Isengard Heroic Edition

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the Isengard expansion (including the Isengard quest pack, Draigoch Raid and Isengard instance cluster)
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Dunland, Gap of Rohan and Nan Curunír
- You are granted 1000 Turbine Points
- You receive a cosmetic armour set, a horse and a title on all characters, current and future
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'



...I purchase the Rise of Isengard Base Edition

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the Isengard expansion (including the Isengard quest pack, Draigoch Raid and Isengard instance cluster)
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Dunland, Gap of Rohan and Nan Curunír
- You receive a horse and a title on all characters, current and future
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'



...I purchase the Rise of Isengard expansion from the LOTRO store

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the Isengard expansion (including the Isengard quest pack, Draigoch Raid and Isengard instance cluster)
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Dunland, Gap of Rohan and Nan Curunír



...I purchase the Rise of Isengard quest pack from the LOTRO store

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Dunland, Gap of Rohan and Nan Curunír



...I purchase the Lord of the Rings Online Mithril Edition

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Trollshaws, Eregion, Moria and Lothlorien
- You are granted 2000 Turbine Points
- You receive the Steed of the Horse-lords mount on all characters, current and future
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'

Originally Posted by Ozeagle

A few minor changes (thanks hikerdude for the skirmish trait info, I've confirmed things with a few other people at different stages so I'm happy to add that in now).

I've highlighted changed lines in Bold to make it easier for Eluros to update the other thread.

Edit: Ok, ended up making a lot more (minor) changes than I thought I was going to make. So probably easier to just copy/paste the whole thing.

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What happens if...

...I establish a free account

- You receive 2 character slots per server
- You can create characters from any of the game's 4 races: Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men
- You can create characters in 7 classes: Burglar, Captain, Champion, Guardian, Hunter, Lore-master or Minstrel
- You cannot create characters in the premium classes: Rune-keeper or Warden
- You can level your characters all the way to the level cap (currently level 65)
- You have access to all regions of the game world exept the Ettenmoors (the Player vs Monster Player region)
- You have access to all quests and deeds in 4 regions: Ered Luin, the Shire, Bree-land and the Lonelands
- You have access to tasks in all regions where they exist (currently implemented up to Eregion)
- You have access to all of the quests that make up the epic quest line
- You have access to the Legendary Item system
- You have access to the first 7 ranks of Skirmish traits
- Your characters do not have the riding skill or access to permanent mounts
- Your characters have three inventory bags
- Your characters are limited to 2 Gold each
- Your characters cannot mail gold
- Your characters have anti-spam features on mail and chat limiting repeated chat or in game mail
- Your characters are limited to 2 Virtue Traits, 2 Racial Traits, 2 Class Traits and 1 Legendary Trait at a time
- You can purchase items from the Auction House, but cannot post items for sale
- You have access to the first 2 skirmishes along with all skirmishes associated with the epic quest line
- You can craft items and advance your crafting skill through all 6 crafting tiers
- You can join a crafting guild and reach Acquaintance standing
- You can earn Turbine Points in-game which can be used to unlock the majority of game content. Regular play will produce a good amount of TP. Unlocking ALL game content without purchasing Turbine Points is possible but extremely time-consuming.




...I buy Turbine Points with real money

- Your account is permanently elevated to a Premium account
- You gain 1 additional character slot (in addition to any previously purchased)
- All your current and future characters' gold cap is increased to 5 Gold
- All your current and future characters are able to trade and mail gold
- All your current and future characters receive a more lenient anti-spam limitation on chat and in-game mail
- All your current and future characters can list 5 items each in the auction house
- You permanently receive a high priority in the login queue if servers are full
- You permanently receive full access to the forums and other community features
- You receive full access to customer service (contacting a GM via in-game support tickets) for 30 days



...I subscribe and become a VIP

While subscribed, you gain:

- All 5 bag slots unlocked on any character you log in with
- All trait slots unlocked on any character you log in with
- Ability to trade and mail gold
- No anti-spam limitation on chat or in-game mail
- No gold cap on any character you log in with
- Access to Swift Travel on any character you log in with
- 3 character slots (if upgrading from F2P, 2 character slots if upgrading from Premium)
- Access to all quests, deeds, instances and skirmishes in North Downs, Evendim, Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, Angmar, Forochel, Eregion, Lothlorien and Enedwaith
- 500TP per month
- Highest priority in the login queue if servers are full
- Full access to the forums and other community features
- Full access to crafting guild advancement
- Access to the slow Bree-Land starter pony at level 5 (200 in-game silver)
- Access to the Riding Skill quest at level 20
- 20 Wardrobe slots
- Ability to spend destiny points
- Access to Monster Play and the Ettenmoors (PvMP)
- Full access to customer service (contacting a GM via in-game support tickets)
- Rest XP for all characters
- Your characters can list 30 items each in the auction house



...my subscription ends

- Your account is permanently elevated to a Premium account
- All characters logged in while VIP keep the unlocks for bags, traits, gold cap and swift travel. New characters will have the Premium restrictions (see "...I buy Turbine Points with real money")
- You lose access* to all quests, deeds and instances in North Downs, Evendim, Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, Angmar, Forochel, Eregion, Lothlorien and Enedwaith. Quests and deeds already in your log can be completed (just the specific quest/deed, not the chain)
- You lose access* to all skirmishes with the exception of Trouble in Tuckborough, Siege of Gondamon and those associated with the epic quest line
- You lose 2 character slots. If you do not have 2 empty character slots, you will have to select characters to temporarily lock until your account has enough slots to support them
- You no longer receive 500TP each month
- You fall back to a high priority in the login queue if servers are full
- You lose access to crafting guild advancement. Any advancement already achieved is maintained
- You lose access to the riding skill quest. Characters who have already completed it do not lose the skill
- You lose 20 wardrobe slots. Existing items in the wardrobe are not deleted, but no new items can be added until your total wardrobe items are less than your current wardrobe size
- You lose the ability to spend destiny points
- You lose access to Monster Play and the Ettenmoors (PvMP)
- You lose access to customer service (contacting a GM via in-game support tickets)
- Your characters no longer gain Rest XP (any amassed Rest XP is maintained)
- Your characters can only list 5 items each in the auction house

* Note that you will NEVER lose access to a quest pack or skirmish you previously purchased with Turbine Points.



...I resubscribe

- Everything which was lost when your subscription ended (above) is reinstated


...I purchase a Shadows of Angmar retail box/code and apply the code.

- This ONLY works if you have NOT applied a Shadows of Angmar OR Mines of Moria code yet.
- You gain a month of VIP access (or extend your existing subscription by a month) and all of the benefits that entails (including the 500TP stipend)
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'



...I purchase a Mines of Moria expansion (Turbine, not Codemasters) box/code and apply the code.

- This ONLY works if you have NOT applied a Mines of Moria code yet.
- You gain a month of VIP access (or extend your existing subscription by a month) and all of the benefits that entails (including the 500TP stipend)
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the Warden and Runekeeper classes
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Moria
- You gain permanent access to the first 15 ranks of Skirmish traits
- You gain 2 character slots (in addition to any you have as F2P/Premium/VIP or have purchased)
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'



...I purchase the Mines of Moria expansion from the LOTRO store

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the Warden and Runekeeper classes
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Moria
- You gain permanent access to the first 15 ranks of Skirmish traits
- You gain 2 character slots (in addition to any you have as F2P/Premium/VIP or have purchased)



...I purchase the Mines of Moria quest pack from the LOTRO store

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Moria

Thanks; I've updated the main post with the information.

Originally Posted by Ozeagle

I've highlighted changed lines in Bold to make it easier for Eluros to update the other thread.

-----------------------------------------------------

What happens if...

...I establish a free account

- You receive 2 character slots per server
- You can create characters from any of the game's 4 races: Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits and Men
- You can create characters in 7 classes: Burglar, Captain, Champion, Guardian, Hunter, Lore-master or Minstrel
- You cannot create characters in the premium classes: Rune-keeper or Warden
- You can level your characters all the way to the level cap (currently level 65)
- You have access to all regions of the game world exept the Ettenmoors (the Player vs Monster Player region)
- You have access to all quests and deeds in 4 regions: Ered Luin, the Shire, Bree-land and the Lonelands
- You have access to tasks in all regions where they exist (currently implemented up to Eregion)
- You have access to all of the quests that make up the epic quest line
- You have access to the Legendary Item system
- You have access to the first 7 ranks of Skirmish traits
- Your characters do not have the riding skill or access to permanent mounts
- Your characters have three inventory bags
- Your characters are limited to 2 Gold each
- Your characters cannot mail gold
- Your characters have anti-spam features on mail and chat limiting repeated chat or in game mail
- Your characters are limited to 2 Virtue Traits, 2 Racial Traits, 2 Class Traits and 1 Legendary Trait at a time
- You can purchase items from the Auction House, but cannot post items for sale
- You have access to the first 2 skirmishes along with all skirmishes associated with the epic quest line
- You can craft items and advance your crafting skill through all 6 crafting tiers
- You can join a crafting guild and reach Acquaintance standing
- You can earn Turbine Points in-game which can be used to unlock the majority of game content. Regular play will produce a good amount of TP. Unlocking ALL game content without purchasing Turbine Points is possible but extremely time-consuming.
- You can READ the forums but NOT post on them



...I buy Turbine Points with real money

- Your account is permanently elevated to a Premium account
- You gain 1 additional character slot (in addition to any previously purchased)
- All your current and future characters' gold cap is increased to 5 Gold
- All your current and future characters are able to trade and mail gold
- All your current and future characters receive a more lenient anti-spam limitation on chat and in-game mail
- All your current and future characters can list 5 items each in the auction house
- You permanently receive a high priority in the login queue if servers are full
- You permanently receive full access to the forums and other community features
- You receive full access to customer service (contacting a GM via in-game support tickets) for 30 days



...I subscribe and become a VIP

While subscribed, you gain:

- All 5 bag slots unlocked on any character you log in with
- All trait slots unlocked on any character you log in with
- Ability to trade and mail gold
- No anti-spam limitation on chat or in-game mail
- No gold cap on any character you log in with
- Access to Swift Travel on any character you log in with
- 3 character slots (if upgrading from F2P, 2 character slots if upgrading from Premium)
- Access to all quests, deeds, instances and skirmishes in North Downs, Evendim, Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, Angmar, Forochel, Eregion, Lothlorien and Enedwaith
- 500TP per month
- Highest priority in the login queue if servers are full
- Full access to the forums and other community features
- Full access to crafting guild advancement
- Access to the slow Bree-Land starter pony at level 5 (200 in-game silver)
- Access to the Riding Skill quest at level 20
- 20 Wardrobe slots
- Ability to spend destiny points
- Access to Monster Play and the Ettenmoors (PvMP)
- Full access to customer service (contacting a GM via in-game support tickets)
- Rest XP for all characters
- Your characters can list 30 items each in the auction house



...my subscription ends

- Your account is permanently elevated to a Premium account
- All characters logged in while VIP keep the unlocks for bags, traits, gold cap and swift travel. New characters will have the Premium restrictions (see "...I buy Turbine Points with real money")
- You lose access* to all quests, deeds and instances in North Downs, Evendim, Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, Angmar, Forochel, Eregion, Lothlorien and Enedwaith. Quests and deeds already in your log can be completed (just the specific quest/deed, not the chain)
- You lose access* to all skirmishes with the exception of Trouble in Tuckborough, Siege of Gondamon and those associated with the epic quest line
- You lose 2 character slots. If you do not have 2 empty character slots, you will have to select characters to temporarily lock until your account has enough slots to support them
- You no longer receive 500TP each month
- You fall back to a high priority in the login queue if servers are full
- You lose access to crafting guild advancement. Any advancement already achieved is maintained
- You lose access to the riding skill quest. Characters who have already completed it do not lose the skill
- You lose 20 wardrobe slots. Existing items in the wardrobe are not deleted, but no new items can be added until your total wardrobe items are less than your current wardrobe size
- You lose the ability to spend destiny points
- You lose access to Monster Play and the Ettenmoors (PvMP)
- You lose access to customer service (contacting a GM via in-game support tickets)
- Your characters no longer gain Rest XP (any amassed Rest XP is maintained)
- Your characters can only list 5 items each in the auction house

* Note that you will NEVER lose access to a quest pack or skirmish you previously purchased with Turbine Points.



...I resubscribe

- Everything which was lost when your subscription ended (above) is reinstated


...I purchase a Shadows of Angmar retail box/code and apply the code.

- This ONLY works if you have NOT applied a Shadows of Angmar OR Mines of Moria code yet.
- You gain a month of VIP access (or extend your existing subscription by a month) and all of the benefits that entails (including the 500TP stipend)
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'



...I purchase a Mines of Moria expansion (Turbine, not Codemasters) box/code and apply the code.

- This ONLY works if you have NOT applied a Mines of Moria code yet.
- You gain a month of VIP access (or extend your existing subscription by a month) and all of the benefits that entails (including the 500TP stipend)
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the Warden and Runekeeper classes
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Moria
- You gain permanent access to the first 15 ranks of Skirmish traits
- You gain 2 character slots (in addition to any you have as F2P/Premium/VIP or have purchased)
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'



...I purchase the Mines of Moria expansion from the LOTRO store

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the Warden and Runekeeper classes
- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Moria
- You gain permanent access to the first 15 ranks of Skirmish traits
- You gain 2 character slots (in addition to any you have as F2P/Premium/VIP or have purchased)



...I purchase the Mines of Moria quest pack from the LOTRO store

- You gain full and permanent access (regardless of subscription) to the quests and deeds in Moria

Added "- You can READ the forums but NOT post on them" in the free accounts part.
I was logged in on my storage account and tried to post and it wouldn't let me because I wasn't a subscriber.

P.S. I vote this thread for STICKY, It has been invaluable to me on learning what to Buy and when.

Originally Posted by -Morgan-

Added "- You can READ the forums but NOT post on them" in the free accounts part.
I was logged in on my storage account and tried to post and it wouldn't let me because I wasn't a subscriber.

You dont' get immediate access to full posting rights on a free account; You can however, given enough time post on most forums in most places, all you need is time, you dont need to make the jump to premium. You start with full rights to post in the 'Free Players Assistance forum' and technical/account support; Shortly You'll be able to post in a server world. .. I dont know exactly what your problem was, but I know that I accidentally post from my purely free accounts once a month or so. I know players using a purely free account as their main forum presence just fine.

Originally Posted by Niwashi

Excellent summation. I only wish Turbine themselves would post all this detail someplace more official and easy to find. (Or at least sticky this thread.)

One thing you may want to add at the beginning of this list is:

...I establish a free account

- You have 1 character slot per server (can purchase more with Turbine Points)
- You can create characters from any of the game's 4 races: Dwarves, Elves, Hobbits, and Men
- You can create characters with any of 7 classes: Burglar, Captain, Champion, Guardian, Hunter, Lore-master, or Minstrel; but not the two premium classes: Rune-keeper or Warden (unless purchased with Turbine Points)
- You have access to travel around through all regions of the game world
- You have access to all the quests and deeds in 4 regions: Ered Luin, the Shire, Bree-land, and the Lonelands (can purchase others with TP)
- You have access to all of the quests that make up the epic storyline
- Your characters have three inventory bags (can purchase with TP access to the other two)
- Your characters can only accumulate a maximum of 2 gold each (can purchase limit removal with TP)
- You can only access the first 1 or 2 slots for equipping each type of trait (can purchase unlocks of the rest with TP)
- You can purchase items from the Auction House, but cannot post items for sale (can purchase posting access with TP)
- You have access to 4 skirmishes (can purchase others with TP)
- You can craft items and advance your crafting skill through all 6 crafting tiers
- You can join a crafting guild and reach up to Acquaintance standing. (Can purchase with TP access to raising your reputation beyond Acquaintance.)
- You can earn Turbine Points in-game (mostly by completing deeds) with which to buy other regions or features. Nearly all features available from the other account statuses are available for purchase with TP, but they're designed to cost more in total than most free players will readily earn in-game. You can easily buy a few features or regions, but expect to have to make choices on where to spend your points unless you are willing to either spend a huge amount of time on repetitive grinding of more points, or (as Turbine is hoping you'll do) spend some real money to buy more and move into one of the other categories described below.


There's probably a few more things that could go in that description (for instance, I don't know what the limitations on chat or mail are), but some description of what's initially included with the free account would make the subsequent description of differences seem more complete.

F2p is 2 characters per server, at least my friends are free to play have that, having never spent money on the game.

A few updates - added in specific notes about the new instances that are not bound to quest packs as well as sections on the three Isengard pre-order options.

Thanks for the concise info but I noticed the new expansion, Rise of Isengard, does not give 30 days vip like all the old expansions did? Any idea if that is as intended?

Originally Posted by Newtoo

Thanks for the concise info but I noticed the new expansion, Rise of Isengard, does not give 30 days vip like all the old expansions did? Any idea if that is as intended?

That is correct - the previous expansions gave 30 days VIP because it was required to access the game. Now that you can log in without a subscription it's not necessary for them to include it.

Originally Posted by Ozeagle

A few updates - added in specific notes about the new instances that are not bound to quest packs as well as sections on the three Isengard pre-order options.

Great, thanks. I updated the "Answers to Your Questions" thread. You may want to update your initial post as well, since not everyone will look at the fourth page.

Hello everybody

As this is my first post, I will introduce myself: I am Óscar, from Barcelona.

I find this thread very interesting, thank you very much to keep it updated.

Could someone explain what are the "guild advancement" restrictions in non-VIP accounts?
Currently I have a F2P account with a Lvl 34 Minstrel that has Acquaintance with the Tailor Guild and could purchase all their T3 expert recipes. Is this going to end soon?

Thank you!
Oscar

Great post! Thanks for the info.
This should definitely get a sticky! Since it hasn't yet heres a bump.

Originally Posted by avaaescaner

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Currently I have a F2P account with a Lvl 34 Minstrel that has Acquaintance with the Tailor Guild and could purchase all their T3 expert recipes. Is this going to end soon?

You will be unable to ding 'Friend' with the tailor guild and purchase and use their t4 recipes unless you do one of the following '1.Subscribe', '2.Buy the Tailor Guild as an account wide unlock.'

Originally Posted by Crell_1

You will be unable to ding 'Friend' with the tailor guild and purchase and use their t4 recipes unless you do one of the following '1.Subscribe', '2.Buy the Tailor Guild as an account wide unlock.'

Thank you, Crell. Probably I will eventually subscribe to VIP, but meanwhile perhaps I will just stack the guild patterns then.

Originally Posted by avaaescaner

Thank you, Crell. Probably I will eventually subscribe to VIP, but meanwhile perhaps I will just stack the guild patterns then.

This is an excellent plan! Because you could turn them all in in one month of VIP and be set for that character !

As the Guild account maybe account wide but I have 5 characters in 5 different guilds so I need to purchase the unlock 5 times. Meanwhile my guild patterns are taking up space in my storage

So as not to clog things up elsewhere, and since the question is related..

If a Free to Play player buys Isengard Legendary Edition but does not subscribe as a VIP,

What expansion pack's or Quests pack's would they need to get in order to have access to all realms/zones/areas etc?

Originally Posted by Dargathi

So as not to clog things up elsewhere, and since the question is related..

If a Free to Play player buys Isengard Legendary Edition but does not subscribe as a VIP,

What expansion pack's or Quests pack's would they need to get in order to have access to all realms/zones/areas etc?

In terms of content you'd still be missing:

North Downs
Evendim
Misty Mountains
Angmar
Forochel
Enedwaith
Inn of the Forsaken Instance
Halls of Night Instance
All skirmishes except Trouble in Tuckborough, Siege of Gondamon and the Epic questline skirmishes
Warden and Runekeeper classes
Skirmish Trait Max Rank increase (7 to 15)
Skirmish Trait Max Rank increase (15 to 25)

Many Thankyous ;o)

What if I have a shutdown account (1 year +) and want to use that $99 1 year deal??

Can I reactivate that old account. The fine print doesnt mention that endcase and the posting I put on the Forum here has not been answered by a turbine employee

Originally Posted by vladtheimplementor

What if I have a shutdown account (1 year +) and want to use that $99 1 year deal??

Can I reactivate that old account. The fine print doesnt mention that endcase and the posting I put on the Forum here has not been answered by a turbine employee

Shutdown as in you stopped paying a subscription back when subscriptions were still required? Those accounts became Premium* accounts when the F2P system was implemented. You can upgrade to VIP and take advantage of the $99.99 per year deal the same way newer F2P or Premium players can. Go to https://myaccount.turbine.com and log in to your old account. Then you should be able to upgrade to VIP from there and select the $99.99 for 12-months payment plan.

* (Well, if you'd had a paid subscription before and/or had bought one of the box sets of the game, then your account became Premium when the F2P system was implemented. If you previously only had a free trial account and have never paid for the game, then your account become a F2P account. But in either case, your account should still exist and be upgradable.)

While subscribed, you gain:
- All trait slots unlocked on any character you log in with

What if I have a character that's not at the level to unlock the last few trait slots, will that toon still have acces to those slots after the subscription ends?

Originally Posted by Cras

What if I have a character that's not at the level to unlock the last few trait slots, will that toon still have acces to those slots after the subscription ends?

As long as you log it in during the VIP period, yes. The trait slots will be permanently unlocked but you won't get them until your toon 'comes of age' to use each one.

Thanks Chanah!

The same is true of Swift Travel - it applies to all Swift Travel, not just the routes you unlock during VIP.

Hmm well that's strange. I had a free trial account before the Free-To-Play program launched, and at the time I had Rest XP, 5 bags, Destiny Points usage, etc.., but after the F2P, I log in to my account and on my characters I still have all 5 bags ^.^ Some loads of Rest XP all there for me.

Not complaining or anything...

Originally Posted by Angel_of_Death792

Hmm well that's strange. I had a free trial account before the Free-To-Play program launched, and at the time I had Rest XP, 5 bags, Destiny Points usage, etc.., but after the F2P, I log in to my account and on my characters I still have all 5 bags ^.^ Some loads of Rest XP all there for me.

Not complaining or anything...

That is strange, if you never paid for a subscription I didn't think you'd get all the ex-VIP perks. Makes sense you'd keep the Rest XP you'd collected, you just won't earn any more. But the bags is a surprise.

Might be best to be quiet about it and hope nobody notices.

Originally Posted by Ozeagle

That is strange, if you never paid for a subscription I didn't think you'd get all the ex-VIP perks. Makes sense you'd keep the Rest XP you'd collected, you just won't earn any more. But the bags is a surprise.

Might be best to be quiet about it and hope nobody notices.

It's not surprising. While you were on a pre-f2p trial, you had other perks, so its not surprising that those characters had the 'past-subscriber' passive trait and perks. Enjoy the characters!

If you buy a quest pack with TP on a F2P account (ex. Trollshaws) and then upgrade to VIP...When the VIP lapses do you still keep the the trollshaw questpack? I assume you do, but I would like to be sure.

Originally Posted by Trollblood

If you buy a quest pack with TP on a F2P account (ex. Trollshaws) and then upgrade to VIP...When the VIP lapses do you still keep the the trollshaw questpack? I assume you do, but I would like to be sure.

Yes, anything you purchase is permanently enabled on your account regardless of what happens on the subscription side.

Hello, guys

Could someone please cronfirm whether the Mirkwood quest pack is included in the VIP subscription or not? I can't see it in the list of the first page, and currently it is 20% off...

Thank you, very much!
Óscar

Originally Posted by avaaescaner

Hello, guys

Could someone please cronfirm whether the Mirkwood quest pack is included in the VIP subscription or not? I can't see it in the list of the first page, and currently it is 20% off...

Thank you, very much!
Óscar

Mirkwood is not included, but you have to be logged into a character to purchase it. If you're checking the store from the character select screen, that might be why you can't see it?

Originally Posted by Cadd_EU

Mirkwood is not included, but you have to be logged into a character to purchase it. If you're checking the store from the character select screen, that might be why you can't see it?

Thank you, Cadd. Then I think that I will get both the Moria Quest Pack and the Mirkwood Quest pack, as I am at L49 right now.
Actually, I CAN find Mirkwood in the LOTRO Store, I meant that it was not in the list of the first page of this thread for the VIP account and it seemed weird to me. Thank you for the confirmation.

Avaaescaner has a good point. It would probably be clearer if the the "...I subscribe and become a VIP" section above mentioned which areas are expansion content not included in a VIP subscription. The list saying that it includes "access to all quests, deeds, instances and skirmishes in North Downs, Evendim, Trollshaws, Misty Mountains, Angmar, Forochel, Eregion, Lothlorien and Enedwaith" doesn't give much indication of how much of the game that is — at least not to new players who aren't familiar with all the regions yet. The VIP section should say something like:

- does NOT include quests and deeds in expansion areas: Moria, Mirkwood, or (once it comes out) Isengard.
- does NOT include Warden or Rune-keeper classes.

Originally Posted by Ozeagle

...I purchase a Shadows of Angmar retail box/code and apply the code.

- This ONLY works if you have NOT applied a Shadows of Angmar OR Mines of Moria code yet.
- You gain a month of VIP access (or extend your existing subscription by a month) and all of the benefits that entails (including the 500TP stipend)
- Your account is permanently elevated to Premium as you have 'spent real money'

I applied my first Angmar code around february (under Codemasters), but didn't get the 500 TP. I filed a ticket with customer support, and they said I only get the TP if I buy subscription with real money. Is this different with Turbine, or was it a mistake on CMs side?