I'm much happier here. WoW felt like a job. LOTRO is like a movie that I can pop into a dvd player when ever I get in the mood.
Nothing wrong with WoW, it's just not my cup of tea. As for as 11 million subscribers, McDonalds is a HUGE hamburger joint and I can't stand the place. Small Mom and Pop resturants FTW. And they stay around for years, if not decades. You don't need millions of customers to have a good business.
That was precisely what finally killed WoW for me. It felt like a job. WoW started feeling like a job a month after I started playing it. It never changed after that even after three and a half years of it. I've played this game for more than four years and it still doesn't feel like a job; it still feels like I am playing a game.
Wow is more fun for me because:
1. I can use the Auction to make money in Wow but in Lotro it is too time consuming. Auctioneer makes Wow much better than Lotro for me.
2. Wow is huge. So many places and instances. Just feels bigger and more open than Lotro. I have to get to a certain level in Lotro before I can go to a new place. Wow has more places to visit for my level.
3. PVP is a fun break.
4. Dungeon finder is great.
I am a casual player, and like leveling in Wow - I haven't played for years yet, so I like Wow even without getting to a high level.
5. Bag space is so small in Lotro compared to Wow. This also reduces fun, but AFAIK Turbine is stuck and can't improve this one.
6. Addons - I have only two or 3 addons in Wow and still I am all set, and like it much better than Lotro when I have less options. Addons are a bonus, not a drag for me. Again I am not hardcore and never have raided.
7. Having played both for over a year, Wow seems to go faster - it took me a long time to get to Moria in Lotro. I am a very casual (0-2 hours per day) player - I like the faster leveling in Wow. I cannot really raid - my family/kids/wife do not let me take a few hours just to play.
Lotro is better:
Story, Atmosphere, no cartoons, nicer landscapes, much nicer people playing with me. Cosmetic outfits are a huge bonus.
Maybe after a while I will switch back to Lotro, but now I live in Wow. I don't think either is better - but I don't like the faults of Lotro (bags, time consuming auctioning, no dungeon finder, not so accessible PVP).
Very nice and reasonably stated post. Thank you for that.
I like to see posts by people who give logical and fair reasons why they prefer one game over another. Maybe one of these days Turbine will get bold and fix it storage issues. It's one of those things that ends up having a large impact on a player's enjoyment or lack thereof. I hope they have this issue resolved for their future projects!
I dunno, I've heard equipment matters big time in WoW. LOTRO is deliberatly trying to avoid that by haveing the improvements in gear be small increments. havething is a massive improvement in gear in the right cases can just lead to a "have vs have not" situation.
I'm not 100% sure of this, but I think the poster you responded to was referring to the complete LACK of any logical gear mapping at all in this game. I run into gear sets all the time that are 6 to 8 levels higher than my gear, and are SUPPOSED to be better gear. But they just aren't any better and in many cases are significantly inferior. Since level 50, gear in LOTRO has become so confused and messy and lacking in anything in the way of improvement that it is not merely "not as important." It is UNDESIREABLE. To call it lackluster would be incredibly (and unreasonably) polite.
From about level 50 onward, this game needs a thorough revamp of gear. And I am NOT a gear-centric player. But even I cannot help but notice how poorly gear has been mapped out since level 50.
Players - whether they are raiders or not - need something to work towards. Something worthwhile. When gear is totally insignificant in the game, it pretty much takes away any incentive for you to keep doing all of those tedious things Turbine would like for you to spend time doing. I won't grind rep or instances for no reason at all. There has to be a reward attractive enough to make me want to go to all that trouble to earn it. The last year or so of development of this game has centered around time consuming repetition to fill the hours for the players. But all of that was a total waste in my opinion because there is nothing interesting for me to work for. The added rep doesn't do me any good. So why should I bother with it? Why would I strive to attain gear that is going to be a significant nerf for my character?
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Lotro is better it is obvious. Just go to a Wow forum n take a look at their arguments of why wow is better. "Cartoon graphics are cooler", "horrible animarions", "bad UI", "too complicated", "it is free, must suck"
As u see, ridiculous community. Lotro is better cause of RP and it is an immersive world that lvling and being addicted is not as important as it is in wow, n having a great cloak n stted is xD.
Overall, I've enjoyed LotRO more than WoW. Places I know and care about (the first time riding in to Rivendell sticks in my mind) mean more to me than generic fantasy land X. WoW does have some great points, PvP there is funner for me, huge population.
LotRO is a better looking game (to me).
However, I do get bored of games, so I rotate through them, LotRO still has gotten most of my time, even after almost 5 years.
The upcoming talent tree change to WoW might be my WoW killer though. I'm not 5, I do like some complexity in my fun.
It's like WoW couldn't run fast enough, so instead of fine tuning & improving their lower body strength (talent tree) they just amputated their legs and said "Screw it, let's get a power chair".
You are the new school, before that there was the old school.
I must be ancient, my ex-wife thinks I'm pre-school
And you ? What do you see in WOW X Lotro differences in your life? Please , try to answer the question :
What is the purpose of this thread?
Is it anything other than yet another thread where those seeking to appear intellectually superior get to shout "WOW sucks", as has happened for the last 5 years and no doubt will for the next 5?
This kind of discussion never ends well, and usually ends up as simply a WOW-bashing exercise and an opportunity for a section of the playerbase to look down their noses at anyone who expresses the view that WOW is, actually, a good game from their own point of view.
Holy thread necro batman, this thread is a year and a half old. Is WoW still even around? (I kid)
Hey Missy, I agree and wonder to myself often... how do they pick these random threads to revive?
I mean, sure a search might bring this up and maybe the poster doesn't read the dates, but there must be at least 2 or 3 more recent threads about this, no? Or better threads? Or perhaps a thread that has already said everything there needs to be said about such a topic?
I can't seem to figure out the how, let alone the why of these rezzes sometimes...
Why shouldn't they be revived? The moderators keep closing new threads and harping on us to use existing discussion threads. Well, the result of that is an abundance of necro-threads ... and you're surprised by that.
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Let there be travellers who venture ... Far from the beaten path
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I played _________ for almost 2 years . For me , the World of _________ is itself personage and caught my attention like never before . But __________'s thirst for power to keep players addicts ( and this way , make money ) transformed _________ for the worst . Story of __________ became confused ... and story became less important than ways of _________ to keep players online all the time ...
I liked WoW, can people not enjoy more than one game? I think LOTRO is interesting but comparing it to the most successful MMO ever is unfair. One was successful in a subscription model due to interest by the masses, the other had to go F2P b/c it had less popularity. Popularity doesn't exactly equate to which game is better but I think the money behind WoW does make for some content. I'm sure any MMO developer would kill for that revenue and playerbase. LOTRO is what it is, EQ/WoW clone based on ME lore, and that is enough for some people. I like it so far, but I would not say that it is better than WoW. I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see the LOTRO forums defend their game against any other title out there.
Why shouldn't they be revived? The moderators keep closing new threads and harping on us to use existing discussion threads. Well, the result of that is an abundance of necro-threads ... and you're surprised by that.
Uh, because this thread is quite frankly one of the shortest and least applicable, being 2 years old.
1: Hard to tell, really. But I'd go for WoW. Why? Just follow the rest of my post and it will become clear.
2: LotRO - The game offers a story that far exceeds that of WoW in both depth and complexity. WoW story never appealed to me with its infantile, soap opera tendencies. LotRO offers a well-thought-out, less childish story. Both ones are equally epic, but, well, I grown too big to fit into WoW pants... I need something that doesn't mock my intellect and LotRO gladly gives me that.
The graphics in LotRO are on a higher level, and while I'm fond of WoW's "fairytale" style, it is LotRO that meets my tastes.
There are few more things in this case worth highlighting. One of them is the atmosphere that LotRO creates. It attracts, it addicts. It's like reading Tolkien books themselves. It is a feeling that WoW could never give me, as its story is too clumsy.
Housing! Yeah, that's one thing I really love about LotRO, despite it being so archaic...
And now the great finale... the details. The animations of specific emotes, the weed, festivals, cosmetic outfits... Those details usually determine if a new player will stay with the game or not.
WoW - First of all, WoW's gameplay is most refined and there are no flaws in it worth mentioning. I also think that talents work better than traits and offer more flexibility.
Flying enables you to overlook the entire world, and that is an option that LotRO will never grant me.
Also, the expansions are huge and polished-up to their maximum, while in LotRO they feel made in a rush... Let me pass it over in silence.
But WoW's main advantage over LotRO is the PvP game model, which mixes open player competition with PvM and even rewards those who fight, stiring up the competition. LotRO doesn't offer any real competition between players and please, don't feed me that "lore" &&&&... This is a lack that is making me leave LotRO every now and then for the sake of WoW. Not to mention battlegrounds... Truth be said, WoW never actually ends. Can't say the same about LotRO.
Ah, and the music... It beats LotRO blindfolded.
3: LotRO - Worst thing in LotRO is the Turbine's negligence of the game... Criticise me if you wish, but you can't deny that the game is full of bugs and issues that are nowhere near being solved. The older LotRO grows, the more neglected it seems. Sometimes I have a feeling that Turbine is all crazy about money, because the expansions are released one after another, full of bugs and in need of fixes, and the LotRO store is as full as ever... To be honest, I don't like this feeling and if things don't change, I will reconsider playing this game.
Number two worst thing in LotRO is the lack of PvP of which I have spoken just a few seconds ago. No competition = no fun and nothing to do at level cap. Nothing more to say about that.
I would also like to say that one of the LotRO's greatest disadvantages is the lack of valuable loot from enemies, but that has already been discussed.
And number three worst thing in LotRO is its community. With all due respect, dear friends - I don't like that overly adult, self-righteous, ultimately sensitive and etiquette-obsessive model. People here are all stiff, talk only about their wives, jobs, cats and dogs. Who am I playing with? Old men? Am I the only laid-back person here? Am I the only person playing for fun? Am I... on a funeral? : /
WoW - The worst thing in WoW is the story as I had already said. Sorry, but it sucks.
The second worst thing is the atmosphere that disappears after venturing forward to Outlands. Another problem is that the expansions introduce nothing new to the game. People get the same contect again and again but in different skin. Yes, it is boring.
The third worst thing in WoW is the lack of diversity in quests. LotRO offers everything, from courier tasks to defending a town. You can fetch pies, become a postman, you can scout and even wake sleeping bog-lurkers to aid the defenseless elven outpost. WoW doesn't offer such diversity and thus slowly becomes boring as far as PvM goes.
4: - What could LotRO learn with WoW? Well... everything I mentioned about WoW that beats LotRO... Open PvP competition, flying, diving, talents, well-thought-out and honed expansions, valuable loot from enemies... That sort of things. But most of all - LotRO... I mean Turbine... could learn to be at least trying to meet players expectations and fix what they mess up. Right now, LotRO is barely playable... But who cares. Whenever I mention it, I get -rep points. Lmao.
. LotRO doesn't offer any real competition between players and please, don't feed me that "lore" &&&&... This is a lack that is making me leave LotRO every now and then for the sake of WoW. Not to mention battlegrounds... Truth be said, WoW never actually ends. Can't say the same about LotRO.
Ah, and the music... It beats LotRO blindfolded.
I'm glad there is no competition between players. God, I hated that competitive nature in WoW. Which music is better is a matter of personal opinion. I could say that LOTRO's music beats WoW blindfolded but that would not make me right.
3: LotRO - Worst thing in LotRO is the Turbine's negligence of the game... Criticise me if you wish, but you can't deny that the game is full of bugs and issues that are nowhere near being solved. The older LotRO grows, the more neglected it seems. Sometimes I have a feeling that Turbine is all crazy about money, because the expansions are released one after another, full of bugs and in need of fixes, and the LotRO store is as full as ever... To be honest, I don't like this feeling and if things don't change, I will reconsider playing this game.
Every MMO in existence has issues and bugs. All of them. No exceptions.
Number two worst thing in LotRO is the lack of PvP of which I have spoken just a few seconds ago. No competition = no fun and nothing to do at level cap. Nothing more to say about that.
The lack of PvP is one big reason why I am here. I hate PvP. I despise it in every form. For you, maybe no competition is no fun but a lot of us like it that way and have more fum with co-op.
And number three worst thing in LotRO is its community. With all due respect, dear friends - I don't like that overly adult, self-righteous, ultimately sensitive and etiquette-obsessive model. People here are all stiff, talk only about their wives, jobs, cats and dogs. Who am I playing with? Old men? Am I the only laid-back person here? Am I the only person playing for fun? Am I... on a funeral? : /
This is where personal opinions come in. My opinion is that the WoW forums are just full of smack talkers that are unable to type a coherent sentence. As I write this post, the more I can't stand that game. As for as old men goes, a lot of us, if not the majority are at least middle aged and educated. I prefer these forums over anything else out there.
WoW - The worst thing in WoW is the story as I had already said. Sorry, but it sucks.
The second worst thing is the atmosphere that disappears after venturing forward to Outlands. Another problem is that the expansions introduce nothing new to the game. People get the same contect again and again but in different skin. Yes, it is boring.
The third worst thing in WoW is the lack of diversity in quests. LotRO offers everything, from courier tasks to defending a town. You can fetch pies, become a postman, you can scout and even wake sleeping bog-lurkers to aid the defenseless elven outpost. WoW doesn't offer such diversity and thus slowly becomes boring as far as PvM goes.
I cannot comment now because I have not played WoW after cataclysm but when I played it before there were some pretty good storylines there. I remember one outstanding questline which had a daughter wanting to talk to the spirit of her dad. Real good stuff. But again, I have no clue what the quest lines are like now.
4: - What could LotRO learn with WoW? Well... everything I mentioned about WoW that beats LotRO... Open PvP competition, flying, diving, talents, well-thought-out and honed expansions, valuable loot from enemies... That sort of things. But most of all - LotRO... I mean Turbine... could learn to be at least trying to meet players expectations and fix what they mess up. Right now, LotRO is barely playable... But who cares. Whenever I mention it, I get -rep points. Lmao.
There is no place for open PvP here. None. All you have wanting it is a very small group that is very vocal about it. There is no flying in LOTRO. Period. End of story. It's not part of the lore. Yes, I said the LORE. With diving, I would say it's probably a money and technical issue. As for as expansions being hurried out, I would bet that it's Turbine's boss, WB telling them to step on it.
As far as Turbine being barely playable, I've been on for the last 3 nights, haven't had any server crashes, no bugged quests(I know that they exist), and pretty much I cannot think of any technical issues that disturbed my gameplay. That's a far cry from being unplayable.
As far as -rep points go, your post was kind of insulting and demeaning. And no, I did not neg rep you. I really have no respect for people that neg rep. If a post is bad enough to neg rep I just report it. And I did not report you either, it wasn't even close to qualifying for it.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
Civ II rules after all these years......
I'm glad there is no competition between players. God, I hated that competitive nature in WoW. Which music is better is a matter of personal opinion. I could say that LOTRO's music beats WoW blindfolded but that would not make me right.
What if the game has no more non-player challenges to offer? What when you know all the content like your own pocket? What when you get bored with doing the same thing again and again, fighting the same computer enemies over and over? Maybe an open PvP competition wasn't the best idea, but I am pretty sure that some kind of arenas or training grounds would prove to be a really nice change. There is no greater challenge than the other player, and there is satisfaction gained by competing together with your friends.
Originally Posted by Nymphonic
Every MMO in existence has issues and bugs. All of them. No exceptions.
That I am certain of. I was talking about the state LotRO's in. About the numerous bugs, glitches, issues - both graphic and technical ones - that Turbine apparently doesn't care about. All I see are store sales, apparel dummies, expansion pre-orders and bundles. Sorry, but one hotfix per month is not nearly enough to heal the game, as new problems appear too often. Take the latest update and the weapon/glow de-sync that occured after it.
Originally Posted by Nymphonic
The lack of PvP is one big reason why I am here. I hate PvP. I despise it in every form. For you, maybe no competition is no fun but a lot of us like it that way and have more fum with co-op.
As I said above - co-operation eventually ends as the content is not unlimited and will eventually bore players. A possibility of competing with your friends on a small arena doesn't seem all that bad to me... and I don't think it would have any impact on the gameplay. It's not much to wish for.
Originally Posted by Nymphonic
This is where personal opinions come in. My opinion is that the WoW forums are just full of smack talkers that are unable to type a coherent sentence. As I write this post, the more I can't stand that game. As for as old men goes, a lot of us, if not the majority are at least middle aged and educated. I prefer these forums over anything else out there.
Well I am not middle-aged, and even if I were, I would still state the same. But I play alone, and it's just fine.
Originally Posted by Nymphonic
I cannot comment now because I have not played WoW after cataclysm but when I played it before there were some pretty good storylines there. I remember one outstanding questline which had a daughter wanting to talk to the spirit of her dad. Real good stuff. But again, I have no clue what the quest lines are like now.
I was talking about the majority of quests and the main storylines of at least two first expansions. There were some great questlines, of course, which I fully enjoyed. The rest, well... sucked.
Originally Posted by Nymphonic
There is no place for open PvP here. None. All you have wanting it is a very small group that is very vocal about it. There is no flying in LOTRO. Period. End of story. It's not part of the lore. Yes, I said the LORE. With diving, I would say it's probably a money and technical issue. As for as expansions being hurried out, I would bet that it's Turbine's boss, WB telling them to step on it.
Yeah, I know full well that flying will never be introduced to the game. It's just my secret desire and I couldn't help but say that As for diving, I believe its just a money issue that prevents Turbine from implementing it. Yeah, well... we still don't have enough expansions to satisfy us, do we...
Originally Posted by Nymphonic
As far as Turbine being barely playable, I've been on for the last 3 nights, haven't had any server crashes, no bugged quests(I know that they exist), and pretty much I cannot think of any technical issues that disturbed my gameplay. That's a far cry from being unplayable.
As I stated before, there are lots of bugs and issues in LotRO that could use some fixing. You may not notice them, but I do... and it saddens me to see that nothing's being done about them.
Originally Posted by Nymphonic
As far as -rep points go, your post was kind of insulting and demeaning. And no, I did not neg rep you. I really have no respect for people that neg rep. If a post is bad enough to neg rep I just report it. And I did not report you either, it wasn't even close to qualifying for it.
You are probably referring to the "community" part of my comparison, right? Well, I did my best to write that in the least offending manner possible. It's just that I will call things by their right names. That's what words are for. How can I express my feelings and opinions correctly with incorrect words?
No offense was intended, I assure you. And I was generalising, so don't take those words personally.
I was talking about the majority of quests and the main storylines of at least two first expansions. There were some great questlines, of course, which I fully enjoyed. The rest, well... sucked.
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Have you played WoW after Catacylsm? I'm just asking because I read that the quests were redesigned just to get you to the next level. If so, I cannot see that as being good for someone that enjoys story lines.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
Civ II rules after all these years......
I have taken up WoW recently as a free player. It is just so polished and fast. Crafting is also very fast and useful. Combat is fast, PvP is fun, very polished game. I am enjoying it a lot - in a way that I could never in Lotro: just jumping in and playing. I can do a lot without tons of hours spend and without any grind.
C.B. I totally agree with you. Nymphonic, how can you make the "every game has bugs" argument? WoW has very, very few bugs - and almost no lag. They fix things right away. Lotro has a major unfixed lag problem, a bugging raid, and lots of in game bugs that they never fix. Just seems weird to pretend everything is fine in Lotro - I know you are seeing the hundreds of posts in the forums here talking about lag, bugs, Dragioch raid failing, etc. I know you love the game but you have to be honest. Other games are just not as buggy/laggy as Lotro is currently.
For anyone truly interested in WoW who never played - or not for a while - try the trial. It is very impressive! Unlimited time - play free forever. Play PvP with your main, craft, go to dozens of different zones, use the dungeon finder, at least 8 instances you can do. You can really get a feel for the game. About the only thing you can't do as a free player is use full regional chat, join a guild, and use the AH.
Lotro's free to play is better if you want a free game and to see more, but I have to say - WoW is a much better game. (Of course, to some people Lotro will be better, and to a lot of people, WoW will be a better game for them).
My old post a bit below this says why I think this. Both games have their pluses and minuses, but overall to me WoW is much more fun - more to do (like PvP and easy grouping when I sick of being solo) and I can spend a lot less time in the game grinding or moving my inventory around.
WoW may be a much more polished game but something about it bores me to tears and I cannot place my finger on what it is. Technically it is much more polished and problem free but it just does not hold my interest.
But I still say that there is no MMO under the sun that does not have technical issues.
One thing I want to make clear is that I have not played WoW after Cataclysm. From what I've heard, it's a totally different game.
+1 rep for a very good post Cindir.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
Civ II rules after all these years......
Then i found LOTRO . A refined game made by fans for fans and with Tolkien's background of books . Where i have pleasure to play and i dont feel impelled to play . In LOtro i feel like i was reading a Tolkien's book. Congratulations Turbine.
I "went back" to WoW last winter, and I quit after a three or four months. Why? No story. I was questing in Northrend, and I had no clue what I was doing or what was going on. Marauding undead. Besieged gnomes. Elves tending a forest in the middle of nowhere. Probably when Northrend launched it made more sense because it was assumed that people then already knew the lore and the story. I heard Cataclysm was maybe a little better, but I didn't quite make it. It was a boring brick wall.
I'm loving story and quests these days. I did plenty of dungeons in WoW thanks to the group finder, but I'm not sure I even care about running dungeons any more.
Have you played WoW after Catacylsm? I'm just asking because I read that the quests were redesigned just to get you to the next level. If so, I cannot see that as being good for someone that enjoys story lines.
Yes, I did, but only to an extent. While vanilla had some really intriguing questlines, Cataclysm is... well, let me quote you... "redesigned just to get you to the next level". I had no clue why and how Deathwing escaped from his prison. I had no clue what was being done about that. I had no slightest clue why Worgen joined the Alliance and why Goblins joined the Horde. The reason behind killing anything in the quests received was... well, there wasn't any reason at all. It was like "The Wargs are roaming south of here and I want them killed right nao! Bring me their paws so I know that you've done it".
A question arises... is such excuse for doing ANYTHING in the game enough for you? But there is still a PvP competition and a bug-free world to explore. There are devs who fix things right away after noticing problems. Sorry, but you can't state the same about Turbine without telling a big, fat lie.
Originally Posted by Nymphonic
Cindir
I have taken up WoW recently as a free player. It is just so polished and fast. Crafting is also very fast and useful. Combat is fast, PvP is fun, very polished game. I am enjoying it a lot - in a way that I could never in Lotro: just jumping in and playing. I can do a lot without tons of hours spend and without any grind.
C.B. I totally agree with you. Nymphonic, how can you make the "every game has bugs" argument? WoW has very, very few bugs - and almost no lag. They fix things right away. Lotro has a major unfixed lag problem, a bugging raid, and lots of in game bugs that they never fix. Just seems weird to pretend everything is fine in Lotro - I know you are seeing the hundreds of posts in the forums here talking about lag, bugs, Dragioch raid failing, etc. I know you love the game but you have to be honest. Other games are just not as buggy/laggy as Lotro is currently.
For anyone truly interested in WoW who never played - or not for a while - try the trial. It is very impressive! Unlimited time - play free forever. Play PvP with your main, craft, go to dozens of different zones, use the dungeon finder, at least 8 instances you can do. You can really get a feel for the game. About the only thing you can't do as a free player is use full regional chat, join a guild, and use the AH.
Lotro's free to play is better if you want a free game and to see more, but I have to say - WoW is a much better game. (Of course, to some people Lotro will be better, and to a lot of people, WoW will be a better game for them).
My old post a bit below this says why I think this. Both games have their pluses and minuses, but overall to me WoW is much more fun - more to do (like PvP and easy grouping when I sick of being solo) and I can spend a lot less time in the game grinding or moving my inventory around.
+ rep that one.
You are of course right, and you expressed your standpoint with respect to the points I made. We are talking about quality and choices that WoW offers... and which LotRO lack. What I'd like to see in the near future are the most common issues fixed (and by that I also mean those bouncy weapons), and a PvP ability given to us, by which I mean small arenas for competitive play, or even an option to attack other players on the adventure map. As far as I know, this isn't against the lore.
Yes, I did, but only to an extent. While vanilla had some really intriguing questlines, Cataclysm is... well, let me quote you... "redesigned just to get you to the next level". I had no clue why and how Deathwing escaped from his prison. I had no clue what was being done about that. I had no slightest clue why Worgen joined the Alliance and why Goblins joined the Horde. The reason behind killing anything in the quests received was... well, there wasn't any reason at all. It was like "The Wargs are roaming south of here and I want them killed right nao! Bring me their paws so I know that you've done it".
A question arises... is such excuse for doing ANYTHING in the game enough for you? But there is still a PvP competition and a bug-free world to explore. There are devs who fix things right away after noticing problems. Sorry, but you can't state the same about Turbine without telling a big, fat lie.
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That's a shame about the quests. I hope it doesn't make their fanbase decline.
Even though WoW may have more polished gameplay it still bores me. Like I responded to Cindir's post, I cannot exactly place my finger on what it is about it that loses my interest.
With Star Trek Online, Age of Conan, and The Old Republic, I knew exactly what it was that lost my interest but not with WoW.
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, totally worn out & proclaiming "WOW, what a ride!"
Civ II rules after all these years......
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