Its bad enough that some of you use precision stance... but those of you in endurance stance... i mean ***? threat doesnt apply to creeps. so please for the love of gawd use strength stance. youll do way more damage and look way less like a noob skillet. just a piece of friendly advice from your neighborhood warg.
well idk who you'r referring to exactly cause I haven't been out there in a few days now, but stance is very much dependent on your traits as well as others in your group, I agree about endurance but I'd very much rather my well placed thorn and stun hit 100% while other hunters in strength burn you down. I imagine you might not be able to fully grasp this since you haven't been in my place trying to root someone in strength, or maybe you have idk. anyway these are all in process of learning more for some of us.
feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong. all the best
ps. I know some freeps are pretty tired of me not having a mic hehe well what can I do, a tracker without a mic is as good as me
well idk who you'r referring to exactly cause I haven't been out there in a few days now, but stance is very much dependent on your traits as well as others in your group, I agree about endurance but I'd very much rather my well placed thorn and stun hit 100% while other hunters in strength burn you down. I imagine you might not be able to fully grasp this since you haven't been in my place trying to root someone in strength, or maybe you have idk. anyway these are all in process of learning more for some of us.
feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong. all the best
We have all been in your place seeing that all of our tribe has ranked hunters. While being able to root is nice, the majority of creeps do carry root pots. With all the hunters that this server seems to have a target shouldn't have time to blink provided you are all traited for damage, strength stance, and focus fire.
That's just my opinion though, please feel free to play however you wish.
well idk who you'r referring to exactly cause I haven't been out there in a few days now, but stance is very much dependent on your traits as well as others in your group, I agree about endurance but I'd very much rather my well placed thorn and stun hit 100% while other hunters in strength burn you down. I imagine you might not be able to fully grasp this since you haven't been in my place trying to root someone in strength, or maybe you have idk. anyway these are all in process of learning more for some of us.
feel free to correct me if you think I'm wrong. all the best
ps. I know some freeps are pretty tired of me not having a mic hehe well what can I do, a tracker without a mic is as good as me
A hunter traited blue gives up 25% damage and is unable to slot cool burn which can be maxed to 107.5% extra damage every 6 mins. This is why when you people heart seeker people we dont run we just stand there and take the hit. your damage is pitiful. If you wanta make people afraid of you slot to put a hurtin on some one. Not to mention the most import thing u can do as a hunter isnt root and stun, thats for the LM's, the most important thing is that you have a 40% slow from 40 meters range...guess what its only usable in strength stance! as of rt now im not scared of any hunter whatsoever on this server. The best hunter out is that guy DYLAN and he still needs to polish his skill, but in the same sentence hes 100x better than the next hunter in line.....
Trailertrash|Spitslinger |Jelloshot "He's a God in the Ettenmoors"~ TIME magazine
"Its not about who you can beat, its about not dying" ~ Cowardcreep
I wish you wouldn't be so ignorant to the fact that dpsing isn't everything a hunter can do, and LM isn't on every group, as well as when you gang up on someone a well placed thorn makes it so that one person can flee. I'm sorry some of us can't scare you, but note that it's a group play and everyone must have a role in a fellowship. a heartseeker alone isn't enough to take down a warg either in most cases unless well maybe if it's devastated. anyway like I said don't be ignorant and consider player roles. it all depends on if a group can play together properly or not, then even a 1300 heartseeker would be more than enough.
it was just a simple comparison. i didn't agree on anything other than i don't run from most hunter HS unless i've been damaged because of the history of hunters not doing a massive amount of damage from them. that being said, i'm sorry but 5-6 hunters in w/e stance they choose all firing imp swift bow all on the same target does tickle a little.
Play the Hunter the way you want, I had a Rank 10 an kinda know what works in the moors, but if you want to run precison or endurance by all means go for it, hell I'd prefer it.
I wish you wouldn't be so ignorant to the fact that dpsing isn't everything a hunter can do
Youre right they can also track.....See this is why you have such a hard time out here, you have no clue how to play ur class. Just because I have a nearly rank 12 hunter means nothing, I guess i need to get another 800,000 renoun before I can teach u a thing or two. By all means run in precision its so awesome, dont worry about slowing a target or DPSing a target. BTW I dont see you out solo much (or ever) you must not be too confident in your hunter's skills, just my opinion though.
Originally Posted by ApologyAccepted
Play the Hunter the way you want, I had a Rank 10 an kinda know what works in the moors, but if you want to run precison or endurance by all means go for it, hell I'd prefer it.
i kinow what you mean, i prefer it too......
Trailertrash|Spitslinger |Jelloshot "He's a God in the Ettenmoors"~ TIME magazine
"Its not about who you can beat, its about not dying" ~ Cowardcreep
I wish you wouldn't be so ignorant to the fact that dpsing isn't everything a hunter can do..... Anyway like I said don't be ignorant and consider player roles.
You are correct.....hunters greatest skill in the moors is tracking I think you've all master that one. We're are not ignorant be any means. We were just giving you some friendly advice. Take it for what you want and play how you want to.
I've been meaning to ask....Has that horseshoe brought you any luck out here? Any symbol drops???
Here's the deal. We (speaking of course for my tribe) all have hunters, in fact, we all have numerous freep's (even high ranked ones, not to mention all 65's) on different servers. We know how the moors works, we know how groups work. The aforementioned post was speaking to those are run solo for the most part. Before you start telling us we don't know what we're talking about, you may want to check some of our sigs before making those accusations...
Having said that, I have noticed a huge number of you are afraid to run solo, and most will not even leave the range of the one shotter's at gv if you don't have at least two healers. More often than not, you out number us by pretty significant numbers and still camp your npc's. Grow a set or learn to play.
I wish you wouldn't be so ignorant to the fact that dpsing isn't everything a hunter can do, and LM isn't on every group, as well as when you gang up on someone a well placed thorn makes it so that one person can flee. I'm sorry some of us can't scare you, but note that it's a group play and everyone must have a role in a fellowship. a heartseeker alone isn't enough to take down a warg either in most cases unless well maybe if it's devastated. anyway like I said don't be ignorant and consider player roles. it all depends on if a group can play together properly or not, then even a 1300 heartseeker would be more than enough.
A hunter in any stance other than strength stance is not effective in the Ettenmoors. As these nice people have shown. This is why i rarely group, the ignorance is wide spread. I don't mean that in a cruel way but just as in the manner that people don't understand how to play their classes. And im not the type that wants to teach them. For a hunter, the ability to slow a target at 40 meters in indispensable. Come on my freep breatheren wise up please!
DANNIELLE, Captain of the Ettenmoors
Creeps Lack the Courage to do what is Necessary
I don't remember accusing any of you or anything, matter of fact tried my best to keep my comments polite and civil. you can review all I said if you want, and yes I'm most certain all of you have played much more than me since you all hang out in our moors, means that you have at least one well ranked freep on another server, again you can review what I said, never implied you haven't played long; even though I don't like the tone of some of you. again I appreciate your suggestions and will consider them, seeing as this is my first toon and I still don't even have an alt. but you can't expect me to do everything you say, even if you'r more experienced than me, I might have ideas myself which might have never occurred to you. and I do change my stance whenever needed if you haven't noticed.
I do appreciate your suggestions, for example that hot burn, I mostly forget which is a nice tip anytime I don't feel like having the role of a supporter in my fellowship.
what else....ah...hehe yea that horseshoe actually got me my symbol, but I didn't have good luck with the legacies unfortunately. not sure exactly what it does, but if I was a developer I'd make it so whoever wears horseshoe longer gets more advantage out of it, so anyone who have faith in it get more benefits I realize how stupid this is btw
and uh....I'll reason with you all you want but don't expect your taunts to work on me I play to have fun however I like it, if I don't see any fun in soloing you can't make me to do so.
and as a side note, I realize how some of you talk about slowing a target and such, but in the time I played in moors we were almost always outnumbered by creeps, so slowing a target wouldn't mean much since running after one would be pointless, the only thing I could do at that time was to root, stun or whatever else I could do so others can burn down a target freely. yes if we're playing with even numbers I would go strength, but if there are 5 wargs on us, I'd rather track one before the ambush and thorn on him so maybe other wargs will be rooted too and can't ambush one of us from stealth. I wouldn't continue doing so if that didn't work. but I'm learning every day, so I appreciate these suggestions.
in the time I played in moors we were almost always outnumbered by creeps.
You have to be kidding me you run in half raid almost everytime u step foot in the Moors you are never out numbered, the bu tt whoopings we give may feel as if we're outnumbering you. On top of that you typically have 10 of ur npc's on us because you refuse to leave them. Complain about what you want but this is pathetic, most of us creeps have multiple toons so we may switch to bring the appearance of having more numbers, that's what you scared of, not the actually numbers.
Trailertrash|Spitslinger |Jelloshot "He's a God in the Ettenmoors"~ TIME magazine
"Its not about who you can beat, its about not dying" ~ Cowardcreep
Complain about what you want but this is pathetic, most of us creeps have multiple toons so we may switch to bring the appearance of having more numbers, that's what you scared of, not the actually numbers.
If they bothered tracking anything other than 4 leggers they would know this....
and as a side note, I realize how some of you talk about slowing a target and such, but in the time I played in moors we were almost always outnumbered by creeps, so slowing a target wouldn't mean much since running after one would be pointless, the only thing I could do at that time was to root, stun or whatever else I could do so others can burn down a target freely. yes if we're playing with even numbers I would go strength, but if there are 5 wargs on us, I'd rather track one before the ambush and thorn on him so maybe other wargs will be rooted too and can't ambush one of us from stealth. I wouldn't continue doing so if that didn't work. but I'm learning every day, so I appreciate these suggestions.
There are very few times that the creeps have more than freeps....You cannot count green and blue dot creeps. They are like fighting lvl 40 and lvl 50 freeps. You cannot compare a lvl 65 geared out freep to a green/blue dot. With the numbers that POME runs around with, they should be able to push and slaughter us every time, but for some reason lacks the confidence to do so.
The best CC hunters have: bard's arrow and cry of predator. Rain of thorns/arrows is good for popping wargs out standing next to visibles (reavers, BAs, WLs, etc) but isn't much for CC.
Many creeps carry fear pots, but they don't use them nearly as much as they do stun/root pots. Farming for silver is pretty easy but it takes a bit more time grinding in the delving which makes them not use the pots nearly as much. I enjoyed running 4 bowmaster, the heightened senses, +5s fear duration trait and I forget the last one: It worked for me, i'd generally duo. A 20s bard's arrow is pretty nice (10s duration on the second application of CC which is heck of a long time)
Strength stance is key out there (40% slow...can get it up to 50% quick shot slow). If you really want your CC to hit you could switch stances if you're that desperate and switch back. But the creeps will just laugh at you if you run endurance or precision the whole time. Remember that low cut is pretty darn nice as well, 50% slow.
There are very few times that the creeps have more than freeps....You cannot count green and blue dot creeps. They are like fighting lvl 40 and lvl 50 freeps. You cannot compare a lvl 65 geared out freep to a green/blue dot. With the numbers that POME runs around with, they should be able to push and slaughter us every time, but for some reason lacks the confidence to do so.
This couldn't be more true. I can go to the moors heal spec and kill and blue or green dot. matter of fact i killed a blue and red dot at the same time just this morning. My point is this: most of the freeps group up instantly as they come to the moors they are looking to get kills as easy as possible with as little of work as possible. the only freeps Ive ever seen solo or duo are Bloin, Ryvnn, Nixa, Dylan and myself. I know Nixa and I fought 8 creeps vs us 2 from inside EC yesterday and still got kills and I never died while Nixa took maybe one death. Point being if you have a bit of skill, you arent scared and you trust what you know you can do and cant do, you can be very effective. You have to play smarter than you opponent, this may mean going a while without a kill. But as that loser Trailortrash said in another post, the point is to kill and not be killed. So hes now said 1 thing I can agree with.......
DANNIELLE, Captain of the Ettenmoors
Creeps Lack the Courage to do what is Necessary
well idk what to tell you anymore, wish I had a screenshot from when I was dead and saw the number of creeps coming. I only remember one time that we turned the map blue and afterwards that we were in raid we had more people. besides I know you switch characters but tracking results never lie.
and I honestly don't know where all this hatred is coming from, I thought we're all fellow players. wait...am I supposed to trash talk you too? I'd rather never go back to moors with this drama, I'm playing for fun and stress release not this hehe
and point to the fact that you are all experienced players, so even a green dot of you could be a real threat to some of us, not to mention that we always had some low level with us too, or do you not remember?
dannielle, that's what you play for, my reason of playing and my fun may be in the group play and not in solo killing. you can't expect me to have fun your way. this may be a competition for you but not for me.
The best CC hunters have: bard's arrow and cry of predator. Rain of thorns/arrows is good for popping wargs out standing next to visibles (reavers, BAs, WLs, etc) but isn't much for CC.
Many creeps carry fear pots, but they don't use them nearly as much as they do stun/root pots. Farming for silver is pretty easy but it takes a bit more time grinding in the delving which makes them not use the pots nearly as much. I enjoyed running 4 bowmaster, the heightened senses, +5s fear duration trait and I forget the last one: It worked for me, i'd generally duo. A 20s bard's arrow is pretty nice (10s duration on the second application of CC which is heck of a long time)
Strength stance is key out there (40% slow...can get it up to 50% quick shot slow). If you really want your CC to hit you could switch stances if you're that desperate and switch back. But the creeps will just laugh at you if you run endurance or precision the whole time. Remember that low cut is pretty darn nice as well, 50% slow.
this is a very good and informative advice, and tbh I have been trying to switch stances, but it takes time to get adjusted to. and I noticed bards arrow works very well, that's one of the more reasons why I wouldn't use strength instead, rather make sure the fear have 100% hit in precision. I might change my play style though, not sure, still trying everything myself, reading buffs and all. thanks for the suggestion. I honestly haven't looked at the utilities freeps and creeps can use such as pots, so maybe I'll take a look at those too, I just go with whatever seems to work best last time I played every time.
I am completely displeased at the direction and tone of this thread and regret starting the post. BTW I'm sitting on the pot using my phone to post this. Thank you and god bless.
dannielle, that's what you play for, my reason of playing and my fun may be in the group play and not in solo killing. you can't expect me to have fun your way. this may be a competition for you but not for me.
Group play is for the weak and only necessary when there are the same amount of people out on the other side. As we speak there is 9 freeps out hunting 3 creeps....does that seem fair or even fun for you? Like you said play how you want but im not participating in that, its fun for no one!
DANNIELLE, Captain of the Ettenmoors
Creeps Lack the Courage to do what is Necessary
Group play is for the weak and only necessary when there are the same amount of people out on the other side. As we speak there is 9 freeps out hunting 3 creeps....does that seem fair or even fun for you? Like you said play how you want but im not participating in that, its fun for no one!
wooooh what a strong guy you are! you think by group play I meant outnumbering? disappointing....and I haven't been out in moors for a week now, haven't seen you anyway. read the previous posts before making a comment please, and I think I'm dropping from the subject, RS I thank you very much for the suggestions and idk about you but this is all I expected, for someone to have a discussion with me on a hunter's playstyle in moors. I realize I may not accept everything right there but in time I'll look into every suggestion for every possibility. and it's possible that I won't be in moors anymore, not for me I think, not now anyway.
and it's possible that I won't be in moors anymore, not for me I think, not now anyway.
You should roll a creep and c'mon over, you seem a decent fellow...we need more creeps that want to play and have fun.
Gotta tell ya though, I'm pretty sure there are quite enough hunters out there for a while and I apologize for this sounding as crass as it does, but speaking from my doggies point of view, your tracks and traps will NOT be missed.
wooooh what a strong guy you are! you think by group play I meant outnumbering? disappointing....and I haven't been out in moors for a week now, haven't seen you anyway. read the previous posts before making a comment please, and I think I'm dropping from the subject, RS I thank you very much for the suggestions and idk about you but this is all I expected, for someone to have a discussion with me on a hunter's playstyle in moors. I realize I may not accept everything right there but in time I'll look into every suggestion for every possibility. and it's possible that I won't be in moors anymore, not for me I think, not now anyway.
Don't take your ball and go home. Take their balls from them in Strength Stance and feed off your anger. That is the hunter way.
/salute
Scuff
“Fantasy remains a human right. We make in our measure and in our derivative mode, because we are made, and not only made, but made in the image and likeness of a Maker.” J.R.R. Tolkien
Strength stance is a must. Go 4 blue maybe for quicker skill inductions, but for the love of all us gimp hunters stay in strength.
Solo on a hunter is by far the hardest for "the normal" guy. A really skilled person can do well no matter, but for the majority you shouldn't gimp yourself by not using SS.
I think these creeps here are trying to help. Course that spitslinger guy, whaterever, sounds a little angry. He definatley deserves nothing but REDLINE STRENGTH STANCE IN THE MANDIBLE.
As for Neilpatrickharris, I gotta commend you on the name of most worthless actor. Guess that fits the most worthless easymode class of warg.
/salute
Scuff
“Fantasy remains a human right. We make in our measure and in our derivative mode, because we are made, and not only made, but made in the image and likeness of a Maker.” J.R.R. Tolkien
Don't take your ball and go home. Take their balls from them in Strength Stance and feed off your anger. That is the hunter way.
/salute
Scuff
lol that's not why I'm not mooring anymore, if that was true I'd be in moors in the past few days. it just takes too much time and obligation. reason why I responded was exactly to have this discussion, cause they know better and to see if I'm right. hope you all have fun in moors
Well, I know little about hunters but I can say Elinborn has helped me kill hundreds of creeps over the last couple weeks. When he returns he will help kill hundreds more.
Don't listen to those guys who say they have ranked hunters...lies n slander. If they did n they were so good at em they'd play em (or maybe get hammered n delete em, but thats besides the point). They know nothing. All raid baby trash!
Keep rockin the endurance stance. I hear traiting trapper of foes is a beast way to go for moors. Contrary to popular most creeps r too broke or too stupid to carry pots, so CC them to death! Also, you'll never run outta power in endurance and I mean come on if your outta power you cant do anything...simple logic here. PFFT.
Darn fools on creepside, dont let em tell you how to play your freeps!! You leveled all the way to 65! All they did was lvl to 10 and got insta rolled to 65. Easy mode at its finest right there son. Almost as easy mode as Seattle makin the playoffs at 7-9. Both are just a disgrace.
Also, to those so called "expert" hunters wit their rk 10s or whatever they is (raid babies *cough*) threat is a factor in the moors. If you run endurance u will surely generate less threat from me and thus will almost always live to the end of the fight as we kill off more "threat generating" targets. Also u will have power all the time unlike if u run strength and run out or just die from all the "threat" u generate at the start of a fight.
Yet another reason those hicks know nothing, endurance stance rocks, neil has no sense of direction, and the seahawks colors are almost as ugly as cowards GF
*TIP*
get a loremaster to come wit you when you leave GV....have the LM name their pet *going to grothum* ..... when neil sees this it will confuse and discombobulate her. She will struggle wit the fact that, they say they r going to grothum...but they're right here. Should I go wait for them there? Where exactly is grothum anyways? I dont see anyone on my mini map...must be broken again. But if I kill them now I wont have to find them at grothum? No, no they say grothum thats where ill go...if only I can find it.
and you will be able to spend the rest of your night free from fear of attack from neil as she searches in vein for grothum, the freeps goin there, and the rest of her grp on her mini map.
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We have all been in your place seeing that all of our tribe has ranked hunters. While being able to root is nice, the majority of creeps do carry root pots. With all the hunters that this server seems to have a target shouldn't have time to blink provided you are all traited for damage, strength stance, and focus fire.
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well idk who you'r referring to exactly cause I haven't been out there in a few days now, but stance is very much dependent on your traits as well as others in your group, I agree about endurance but I'd very much rather my well placed thorn and stun hit 100% while other hunters in strength burn you down. I imagine you might not be able to fully grasp this since you haven't been in my place trying to root someone in strength, or maybe you have idk. anyway these are all in process of learning more for some of us.
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