I would like to give a suggestion . it is mine and from many other friend players . It is about a new place im middle earth to be explored : It is The Lonely Mountain , as we saw in The Hobbit book .
If you can not create a playable zone of Lonely Mountain , what about at least a temporary zone like winter-home ( of Yule festival ) , where players could explore The Lonely Mountain as quests in Yule festival .
I bet my dream is a dream of many players who are Tolkien's fans and love LOTRO . Think about it .
And me , as a Guardian Dwarf from The Lonely Mountain , pray to Iluvatar and Durin , that some day i could step on The Lonely Mountains . Thank you a lot .
Hi there ORLLOFF!
I'm from Brazil as well and i'm coming from almost a decade playing ultima online. I've started to play at F2P launch and, since then, i'm a subscriber.
There is a lot of nice places to go right now, and beeing a Hobbit fan (the book), i can't wait to have the Lonely Mountain as well.
I'm playing on Landroval (we have some nice RP kins there), if you show up, send me a tell!
Regards!
Until recently I did not have much hope that we would see the Lonely Mountain. But a couple of months ago Turbine announced they were going to decouple the Epic story line from the expansions. Expansion really meaning level cap increases and addition of large areas like Moria and Mirkwood.
Since we were following the Fellowship we really did not have much choice but to travel from the Shire to Rivendell, to Moria, Lothlorien then Rohan and eventually Gondor.
But with the decoupling of the Epic line from expansions i can now see a chance for us to actually go east to Northern Mirkwood, Lake Town and Dale and even farther west and south to places like Lindon, Thadbad (spelling) and other locations.
We will get to do this?? I do not know but now I can see a manner in which we can since they can add a new region (expansion) and not add a book to the Epic story line.
I have little hope of it actually happening, but every now and then I daydream that the release of content hasn't sped up since F2P because they split off half of an enlarged dev team to work on an expansion covering Northern Mirkwood, the Lonely Mountain, and Dale, for release with the Hobbit movies in 2012 / 2013.
new zones are always exciting and actually a brilliant idea! being a member of lotro since the beginning of 09 i have this problem of keeping interest in the already exsisting areas. Deeds are great and quests are great but its always exciting to have new areas opened up including the newest festival areas like the haunted house and the winter home. but here's an idea...lets keep them all year round?!?!
The game holds more areas inhabited by elves dwarves and men so why not add another area containing more hobbits!! Personally im not a fan of the shire mainly because its a **** load of running from one side of the map to the other for one quest but hey thats still cool..but tho i'm not a fan of the cute lil shire i just adore cute little hobbits running around.
I've never read the books and if i did read the one i wasnt very attentative-not my fault please forgive me. But through the experience from LOTRO and how much i've played the game i would love to see more little areas opening up and possibly open up more of the history of each race more. of course not relating to the main story line but why not give each race its own little area that can teach players like myself some of the background and history of each race???
new zones are always exciting and actually a brilliant idea! being a member of lotro since the beginning of 09 i have this problem of keeping interest in the already exsisting areas. Deeds are great and quests are great but its always exciting to have new areas opened up including the newest festival areas like the haunted house and the winter home. but here's an idea...lets keep them all year round?!?!
Areas that are around all the time aren't "special", so, no thanks to the idea of keeping festival areas on full time. (As it is, be get them more time than we really ought. Winterfest runs for about a month, then there are Spring, Anniversary, Summer, and Fall festivals...how much more do you *want*?)
The game holds more areas inhabited by elves dwarves and men so why not add another area containing more hobbits!! Personally im not a fan of the shire mainly because its a **** load of running from one side of the map to the other for one quest but hey thats still cool..but tho i'm not a fan of the cute lil shire i just adore cute little hobbits running around.
a. All the hobbits mentioned in the books lived in and around the Shire, though we are still missing the South Farthing.
b. Turbine has added a sort of proto-Hobbit village in Enedwaith.
I've never read the books and if i did read the one i wasnt very attentative-not my fault please forgive me. But through the experience from LOTRO and how much i've played the game i would love to see more little areas opening up and possibly open up more of the history of each race more. of course not relating to the main story line but why not give each race its own little area that can teach players like myself some of the background and history of each race???
Check the Lorebook. Check the character creation screen. Check some of the quests. Background material is around you. Or, of course, you could read the books where all that information comes from...
Seeing the Lonely Mountain would be a dream come true for me.
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Areas that are around all the time aren't "special", so, no thanks to the idea of keeping festival areas on full time. (As it is, be get them more time than we really ought. Winterfest runs for about a month, then there are Spring, Anniversary, Summer, and Fall festivals...how much more do you *want*?)
a. All the hobbits mentioned in the books lived in and around the Shire, though we are still missing the South Farthing.
b. Turbine has added a sort of proto-Hobbit village in Enedwaith.
Check the Lorebook. Check the character creation screen. Check some of the quests. Background material is around you. Or, of course, you could read the books where all that information comes from...
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obviously i know hobbits are in the shire, but if you look at the title of the thread its says Lonely Mountain :O obviously another hobbit inhabited area mentioned in the lore and the books.
and some people just arent huge fans of reading thousands of pages...BUT might be interested in the interaction between the lore and gameplay to make it more interesting than lookin at a book. Learning AND having fun!!!
still throwin my support for a new area ^_^ hope it goes through
Every party has a pooper and the party poopers you!
obviously i know hobbits are in the shire, but if you look at the title of the thread its says Lonely Mountain :O obviously another hobbit inhabited area mentioned in the lore and the books.
and some people just arent huge fans of reading thousands of pages...BUT might be interested in the interaction between the lore and gameplay to make it more interesting than lookin at a book. Learning AND having fun!!!
still throwin my support for a new area ^_^ hope it goes through
I'd be delighted to see Northern Mirkwood, Dale, and Lonely Mountain added to LoTRO. However, there's nothing in the canon indicating that hobbits live there. One hobbit had adventures there...and then went home to the Shire. So...Elves in Northern Mirkwood...check. Men in Dale...check. Dwarves in Lonely Mountain...check. Hobbits? Not in that area.
If you're not interested in actually reading the works of J. R. R. Tolkien, please don't attempt to justify races in locations where the books don't put them.
But with the decoupling of the Epic line from expansions i can now see a chance for us to actually go east to Northern Mirkwood, Lake Town and Dale and even farther west and south to places like Lindon, Thadbad (spelling) and other locations.
I do not see Turbine doing this.
IMHO - Decoupling the Epic from the content updates means that they do not have to advance the story each update. They do not need to have a working "Epic Book". They can delay the story. They can delay the release of landscape to support the story. Divert resources to other features like legendary items. Divert resources to enhancing the store. Divert resources to adding items to the store. Divert resources to support the F2P crowd.
If you look at some of the later books, they are designed to reuse existing landscape so as to reduce the pressure on the landscape designers to provide new areas and regions for us. What did we get in 2010 - One region. What did we get in 2009 - One region. Things go well with F2P. We will get two regions in 2011.
Hopefully I am wrong. What I expect is more updates like November. We do not need an Epic book. We do not need to provide any content for the level 65s. We can create a new system - tasks for the level 1-53 crowd that is overlaid on part of the existing landscape.
I expect we will get another update that is feature heavy. Legendary item update. Removal of radiance. Redo of instances. Deliver of the group content - instances - raid cluster - that should have been delivered to us as part of Endewaith.
Bottom Line - If you are thinking you are going to get a lot more landscape especially off of the story line path. I do not see that happening. The focus is going to be on back fill and revenue generation via the store and hooking F2P customers.
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actually I predict the next "expansion" is going to be the lonely mountain. the timeings right as the hobbit'll proably be in theatres around the time, so a lonely mountain update in 2012 seems like a good way to bring in new players.
actually I predict the next "expansion" is going to be the lonely mountain. the timeings right as the hobbit'll proably be in theatres around the time, so a lonely mountain update in 2012 seems like a good way to bring in new players.
As regards timing...maybe. On the other hand, we'll get all manner of people who complain that Lonely Mountain doesn't look a thing like it did in the movie, think that that part of the game is based on the movie, and think that the movie pre-dates the book...
On the other hand, we'll get all manner of people who complain that Lonely Mountain doesn't look a thing like it did in the movie
Unless WB and Turbine work together to create one single version of the locations and events form The Hobbit. But that's a whole 'nother can of worms, which I fear may be starting to open with the steampunkification of Thorin's Halls.
As regards timing...maybe. On the other hand, we'll get all manner of people who complain that Lonely Mountain doesn't look a thing like it did in the movie, think that that part of the game is based on the movie, and think that the movie pre-dates the book...
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you're assuming they would look differnt though. remember Warner Bros owns both New Line Cinema AND Turbine, I could see WB helping to facillitate communication between Turbine's art dept and the movies art dept in an effort to try and get them "on the same page"
Unless WB and Turbine work together to create one single version of the locations and events form The Hobbit.
I'd not be too suprised if they did exactly that. quite honestly if I was the head of WB I'd want to try and make both things look alike, so as to ensure a greater "cross pollenization of revenue stream"
About 15 months ago, Berephon (Turbine's main "lore guy", now doing content development) said in an interview that this team couldn't use materials exclusively from The Hobbit, or something along those lines. That was met with much confusion (and no forthcoming explanations), because Turbine most definitely had announced a successful renegotiation to extend their rights to both The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit until 2014, with options to re-extend to 2017.
So why would he say that? He's the lore guy, so he'd most definitely know which sources they could use. He's never clarified, so there are a few possibilities:
He misspoke.
They've quietly given up their license to The Hobbit, although I doubt this one. With the movie coming out, this would be a rather brain-dead thing to do.
Someone in WBIE (and possibly a different team at Turbine) is working on a new Hobbit game, and this team cannot step on their toes any more than they already have. To get more market differentiation, it might be aimed at younger players -- and come out on consoles first.
In any case, I don't really expect this game to go north to the Lonely Mountain either, although I'd really enjoy seeing it if it did.
They've quietly given up their license to The Hobbit, although I doubt this one. With the movie coming out, this would be a rather brain-dead thing to do.
I agree, that WOULD be a brain-dead move! I somehow doubt that this is the case.
Originally Posted by Khafar
Someone in WBIE (and possibly a different team at Turbine) is working on a new Hobbit game, and this team cannot step on their toes any more than they already have. To get more market differentiation, it might be aimed at younger players -- and come out on consoles first.
I could see Turbine having to delay their release of the Lonely Mountain because of an alternate title, but I do not see them omitting it entirely. So far this conversation has covered Northern Mirkwood, the Lonely Mountain (Erebor), Dale, and Lake-town as it is in the Hobbit. But think about it, when our characters get there, it's not going to BE during the Hobbit's timeline, but mid-way through the War of the Ring!
When (and if) we arrive at the Lonely Mountain, it will be a Mountain under siege by Orcs of Mordor and Easterlings of Rhun. If there are other games coming out around the time of the release of the Hobbit, they will be detailing the adventures of Bilbo and the Dwarves, not of the War of the Ring, therefore the proverbial toes will not be stepped upon quite as much.
The reason why Berephon would say that material from the Hobbit couldn't be used exlcusively probably derives in part from this.
I could see Turbine having to delay their release of the Lonely Mountain because of an alternate title, but I do not see them omitting it entirely.
I do. If they're actually working on a different game based on The Hobbit (which is admittedly a big "if"), I think they'll avoid much of that entirely with LOTRO. LOTRO has far more material to work with, and they aren't going to want to "poach" stuff the other team needs to be core to their new game. Even with 60 years difference between them, I think they'd avoid it entirely, and the only new Hobbit-related material they'd release would (eventually) be something on the Scouring of the Shire.
Please make it level 35-45 because we could use more choices for those levels.
Only problem, how'd you get there?
You'd have to go through Moria and I wouldn't go there at those levels (not that you actually can atm.)
I wouldn't mind being the second hobbit to run around the Lonely Mountain.
I doubt that the orcs of Mordor would lay siege to the Lonely Mountain. There are better targets and then there's, of course, Minas Tirith, which will eat up a lot of their forces. Plus those that stayed in Mordor to guard Mordor. It would be more likely for goblins to come and try to get even with the dwarves, yet again. After all, they failed at the Five Armies and it would take them some time to restore their numbers.
And no, no hobbits in that area. We hobbits are from the Shire. The only hobbit who ever wandered there was Bilbo Baggins.
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I agree, that WOULD be a brain-dead move! I somehow doubt that this is the case.
Well, a recent article suggested this may be exactly what's going on:
Is Turbine planning on capitalizing on the upcoming Hobbit movies within the game?
Currently, Turbine only holds the license to the trilogy, although Warner Bros. (Turbine's parent company) has access to the rest of the library. The Hobbit is nothing that Turbine's talking about right now.
Apparently they decided that there wasn't enough more in The Hobbit to justify paying for that license for this game. If so, that means they can still do stuff covered in The Lord of the Rings which pertain to the Shire and whatnot, but cannot use material exclusively found in The Hobbit. Any sort of detail for the Lonely Mountain would be out.
For what it's worth, Gloin showed up at Rivendell (with Gimli of course) because a Ringwraith had been bugging Dale and the Lonely Mountain about joining sides with Sauron, even going so far as to offer an old Ring of Power made for the Dwarves way back when in Hollin. The Dwarves and Men there also fought an Army during the end of the War of the Ring. So while there was no direct interaction in the LoTRs, there was mention of it several times. If we are to wonder if they will do this because it could imping on The Hobbit rights, the region can still be included for LoTR material. *IF* The Hobbit rights are no issue, then ideas abound. Dwarves/Men can start there or where they start currently depending on where you hail from, you can have a "starter/prologue" instance starting with the end of the battle with Smaug and leading into the Battle of Five Armies as a history to the area. Then pick up during the beginning of LoTRs with a Ringwraith appearing to the Leader of Dale and to King Dain. Quests involving preparing for the war, clearing the countryside of unwanted things (wargs, goblins, etc) and working your way to Lake Town. Increasingly higher level areas move you out from there (Iron Hills, Withered Heath, Northern Mirkwood, Rhun, etc) would allow you to achieve high enough levels to go elsewhere. When you reached a high enough level, you have the ability to "swift travel" to Bree, etc.
Just a thought... a very long rambling thought. Could be done, and not step on any rights...
So for what it is worth, I would Love to see it, but I suspect it would be a very large undertaking and would definitely take time. However, now that I have said it, watch there be an announcement about it...
Since the Lonely Mountain and surrounding areas did not disappear during the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, these areas could be new adventuring areas. Just don't expect characters from The Hobbit to be there unless they also show up in the Lord of the Rings Trilogy. The best time to release the Lonely Mountain area would be when the movie, The Hobbit, comes out. It would also be the best time to release any new dragon raid. Just don't expect the dragon to be Smaug. It could be something newly dug up (just like the balrog was dug up in Moria).
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