So i heard there were freeps camping Grams for greenies last night. Not ok, the reason everyone plays this game is to have fun. Being rez camped is not fun. This is a game, think of others. The only reason I held my rez camp today, and I made this very clear to my raid, is because you guys did this. The people I killed are prolly not the ones who camped it, but they paid the price for your greed.
Also, stop rolling the map please. It's foolish to roll the map, if you guys have such overwhelming numbers that you need to do something, go to SG and get better gear. There is no point what so ever for you guys to take the rez from noobie creeps.
Today was punishment for the stupidity, but you guys put up a heck of a fight
<3 Sno, Etheren(forgive the spelling) and Wufleborn.
It's impossible to camp Grams. There's two ways out of Grams and the side path can be jumped off of at any time. Unless it was a highly organized freep fellow with enough to hold both true exits and extras scouting, even a green creep could get out of Grams. Being green does not mean lacking any semblance of resourcefulness or being insistent to the point of not being willing to come back later. Which is not to say that I condone camping of any rez point by either side, but really if creeps can't get out of Grams they have bigger problems than campers, they need to learn tactics.
But the bottom line is both sides need to get off their high horses(or WL buffs for those without horses ;P) and stop pretending that either of us hold sway over everyone who visits the moors. I can say this: I will never, never camp a rez point for any reason under any circumstances, and never have. This notion of "punishing" each other as if we each have a magic wand to will everyone on the server to our idea of fair play is baseline silly. By all means clear the map, by all means camp a rez, if that's what you want to do. But don't justify it as "an eye for an eye", that's ludicrous and can only result in continued ridiculousness.
Rather than trade "punishment" for things neither of us can control, if we want to force as fair of play as we can then we simply need to each police ourselves to the extent possible and be contented with the result.
- Berate freeps/creeps for such actions as rez camping or boosting, but understand that they're free to play the way they want
- Never invite those performing such actions into a raid, kin, or tribe that does not condone them
- Bring down the pain on those specific people, exercising our right to play how we want(without them doing that )
If it really gets to the point of annoyance we can start a Vent where creep and freep organizers can facilitate the bringing of pain onto those of their own side that are causing problems. If we can't talk em out of it, we can beat it out of em when it becomes clear that even your allies want you dead for it. But if we just keep 'protecting our own' all that will happen is we get the people who aren't predisposed to such actions doing it too, and it escalates.
K, well since you guys insist on taking all the rez points good luck. Treason will not be taking them back. You guys want to fight you can come to the one shots at grams. I suggest all the other creeps stay in Grams as well. Good luck.
The only keep we're interested in is TA, most of us don't want Lugz since it means we rez there. When TA is creep held it results in ridiculous fights where groups on equal footing do the back and forth troll dance. It's much more engaging to fight at the permanent fort across the river, or at the elf camp, where the NPCs still provide a safe haven but not a hide behind forever haven. To that end Lugz was taken to pave the way to taking TA, because creeps were bothering us while we fought TA tyrant, so we had to mess up their ability to get back into the fight there if we expected to take it. Unfortunately then a lot of people left, but Lugz is hardly difficult for you to take.
The only keep we're interested in is TA, most of us don't want Lugz since it means we rez there. When TA is creep held it results in ridiculous fights where groups on equal footing do the back and forth troll dance. It's much more engaging to fight at the permanent fort across the river, or at the elf camp, where the NPCs still provide a safe haven but not a hide behind forever haven. To that end Lugz was taken to pave the way to taking TA, because creeps were bothering us while we fought TA tyrant, so we had to mess up their ability to get back into the fight there if we expected to take it. Unfortunately then a lot of people left, but Lugz is hardly difficult for you to take. If you do decide to stay in Grams then I'll just run Sammath Gul some more, gear up nicely, etc, since there's plenty of PvE content to enjoy on a freep.
Cheers
Whoever holds TA has an advantage. The problem on this server is that when the Freeps hold it they will not come out as evident by the week that they had it. With even numbers the creeps still had to push to the CG room or into the quest room because the second we target someone they run.
When creeps hold TA we push into EC and into TR. We don't hide in TA. At least this is the case when I am running a raid/group.
The thing that started this whole rant of mine was due to several freeps trying to take TR and 3 creeps came over to stop them. We took our deaths and ran back to fight more only to find the freeps ran away to LC. We go to LC and try to fight and all they did was run away to EC/Stab. 5 vs 3 and they ran away to NPC's. Seriously, that is just sad. Eventually the numbers evened out where we had 6 vs 5. One of us was a greenie, and yet the fight was taken into EC. The fact that they were all 5 on the top of the leader board makes it even worse. I guess they just want to farm their infamy and boost rather than have fun PVMP.
Oh well guess I'll head to another server where it is just Zerg vs Zerg. I know many of the regular creeps on Dwarrow feel the same way cause we are tired of the BS. We had hoped Dwarrow would be different but it is just getting sad.
Whoever holds TA has an advantage. The problem on this server is that when the Freeps hold it they will not come out as evident by the week that they had it. With even numbers the creeps still had to push to the CG room or into the quest room because the second we target someone they run.
When creeps hold TA we push into EC and into TR. We don't hide in TA. At least this is the case when I am running a raid/group.
Depends on the encounter. For the most part after we took TA we haven't had decent numbers, at least not when I was around. But you have to also realize that it's very difficult for freeps to get an accurate read on how many creeps there are. Unless you do a show of strength which isn't intended as a ploy then we don't know if there's 1 or 4 wargs lying around, and more often than not it tends to 4. This is probably true of both sides, but it's what leads to protracted battles because neither side wants to come out thinking it's a 6 on 6 only for 5 more to show up, much less literally out of thin air.
The other important thing to note is when we had TA for the most part we also had Lugz. This means our rez point is basically behind you, so it makes it difficult to fight with any cohesion when you have to ride back through enemy lines, since we don't have the option of mapping.
Originally Posted by Saboga
The thing that started this whole rant of mine was due to several freeps trying to take TR and 3 creeps came over to stop them. We took our deaths and ran back to fight more only to find the freeps ran away to LC. We go to LC and try to fight and all they did was run away to EC/Stab. 5 vs 3 and they ran away to NPC's. Seriously, that is just sad. Eventually the numbers evened out where we had 6 vs 5. One of us was a greenie, and yet the fight was taken into EC. The fact that they were all 5 on the top of the leader board makes it even worse. I guess they just want to farm their infamy and boost rather than have fun PVMP.
I can't speak to this as I don't know anything about it, I wasn't on when LC and TR were taken this most recent time. Though I doubt they were taken with 5 so you must be referring to something else.
Originally Posted by Saboga
Oh well guess I'll head to another server where it is just Zerg vs Zerg. I know many of the regular creeps on Dwarrow feel the same way cause we are tired of the BS. We had hoped Dwarrow would be different but it is just getting sad.
You have to understand that the numbers just don't add up yet. Some of your regulars that aren't from Windfola have freeps who are in their 30s or lower. Literally these are people who get a one-click trip to 65 as a means to get away from their miserable low level existence(:P). On the other hand the best we've been able to muster is 13 or 14, we did that once and haven't managed it since, and we only did so by spamming every 65 online at the time, a few of which don't regularly have any interest in PvMP.
If we aren't even getting PvE raids(sans Filikul) going with consistency, or some high end fellow raids(our Sammath Gul HM run two nights ago was first successful one on Dwarrow to my knowledge), how can we be expected to field enough to consistently compete with the number of creeps that can be called up on demand? Once the people who want to PvP actually level to 65 rather than take the short path by adding yet another creep to the ranks, perhaps we'll have even numbers more often and without calling in favors and instigating.
1. Jacbo, play your class more, stop typing in the forums so much. It's a game not a job.
2. To all Torment: Your mighty blow defeated Torment. You will never live this down.
3. Who cares, its a game people! We are out here to have fun. Have respect for others and die. It's a PvP rule. You have to die. If you don't die, you are missing out on a lot of infamy/renown.
4. You guys could have a fine reading on the creeps, if your hunters knew anything about tracking. Read your traits please!
5. I am more than happy to 1 vs 1 anyone out here. Yes, that says anyone. No, it doesn't mean I will repeatedly let you wail on me but I will always give it a try.
6. When you read the leaderboard's and you see people that have 0 infamy but 600 rating it gives away that we still have farmers on this server. Do your part and if you see this happening, report the player.
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I, for one, have just been following Khium's lead in PvMP, as I've found that he tends to know a lot about things I've never encountered. Now, I know a lot of dedicated Creep players who might scoff at Khium and his abilities, but I've chosen to take a lot of what I consider to be his good advice and used it. However, as for tactics in PvMP, I'm still trying to formulate my own thoughts about what to do and where to go and what to try.
As for me having a tendency to fall back to EC/ Ta's South Bridge, it's just general tactics. I do agree, however, with trying pushing forward when possible. The best defense can be a better offense. Look at sports history. Montana/Rice era 49ers; Zinzan Brooke and the '87 New Zealand All Blacks; The friggen NY YANKEES; etc, etc.
Yes, I know a number of factors need to be in place, but if a few Creeps can crowd control a larger number of Freeps, what does that say for the Freeps' sense of strategy?
Don't know about everyone else, but I've been having a good time in small groups/alone lately. Today I found a couple greens around EC, so we fought. Good times. Found one of the many wargs and fought him alone, also fun. I know full well that I'm going to die a bunch when I head out, but that makes it even more fun. Going back and forth around the bridges is fine. Having a couple creeps hamper us trying to take a keep is cool too, that's what should happen. I haven't seen any rez camping, so can't speak to that, but it's been pretty reasonable when I've been out there lately.
Now, 3-4 wargs against one freep isn't quite so fun, but it seems that the smaller groups (not raids) have been pretty good lately, at least for me.
/start final rant
Dang it, Dwarrowdelf. Why do you freeps gotta be cowards with no honor what so ever?
I fight you in the ford and your player pulls NPC's. Then you whine that I am hiding in NPC's (with lesser numbers). So with less numbers, take my group of six to Xroads. While in vent, I asked for a few mins because I had 2 AFK. You say "yeah no prob" and come barreling down on me to kill me.
Ithel, you could have killed 3 or 4 more creeps, but because you ran, your team got separated and everyone got rolled.
Card (Aces), your kin does not have any since of PvP even if you do.
My team quit this server over 2 months ago. We stopped because there were no fights. Same reason I am leaving again today.
KEEP ON FARMING GREENIES, Ainur!
/end rant
/leave Ainur on Freep
/stop playing on Dwarrowdelf
You guys ringed the top of the ramp there with the NPCs close. While your group of 6 fought up and down the ramp, the other creeps that showed up didn't and ran at the first sign of damage. Some noob not with us aggroed all the NPCs which then went into our aoe.
You said, 'hey, fight us at the ford' and then we fought on the ramp. It was stupid to start with, but we did it.
The crossroads was all me, I charged in and attacked, so blame me for the one roll not all of Ainur. So hate me not them. They just followed me after it started. Then we rolled the other 9 or so creeps that were running to crossroads through the trees. Kudos to them, they died and came back...
But since you can't take losing, rezzing and coming back to fight in a video game, you will not be sorely missed here.
PS we were 7 + 2 noob freeps (not in our group who died instantly and fed you infamy...)
/start final rant
Dang it, Dwarrowdelf. Why do you freeps gotta be cowards with no honor what so ever?
I fight you in the ford and your player pulls NPC's. Then you whine that I am hiding in NPC's (with lesser numbers). So with less numbers, take my group of six to Xroads. While in vent, I asked for a few mins because I had 2 AFK. You say "yeah no prob" and come barreling down on me to kill me.
Pulling the NPCs was our fault, well, Sno's bird's fault(:P). Honestly we could have at least wiped each other there but we got too spread out and didn't communicate well enough, it happens sometimes. When we agreed to meet you at crossroads and wait there was a miscommunication, myself and Sno said that we'd wait(I did what I said, I was in GV retraiting), but we wrongly thought we spoke on behalf of the entire group's sentiments when we didn't(see: Zidia's post).
Ultimately though it was one miscommunication, one engagement, one death. Thick skins need to predominate in PvMP, because annoying things will happen and they will happen often. I can't count the number of times I've been zerged in EC and had people exploit the NPCs on top of it, which frustrates the hell out of me but it is what it is, you take your shots and move on.
Originally Posted by BrentMcBrian
My team quit this server over 2 months ago. We stopped because there were no fights. Same reason I am leaving again today.
When Treason originally left the freep population was underdeveloped. I'm the second highest in renown and I had barely even started out there when you left, so the server simply wasn't ready for you yet(Riddermark had the same problem of up front creep transfers scaring off initial freeps).
The situation now is different. The majority of freep regulars are in Ainur, and most of the high ranked creeps don't seem to log on as much. So we end up having to have some of our guys on creep side just to get fights going. The problem there being that if I see an imbalance as a freep I have to wait an hour to flip(to a R0 creep), by which time the landscape could have drastically changed. And when you have the same kin on both sides it's difficult to determine when you should free-for-all because there seems to be an expectation of playing favorites and a subsequent angered reaction if you don't.
Honestly what Dwarrowdelf needs is not creeps leaving but creeps playing, despite the fact there are often zergs of greenies(I've been attempted-farmed at the top of TR at least 3 days this week). I think Ainur as a whole could give a good fight now to Treason/Pariah/Animals, but instead we get lower numbers and NPCs which give 0 renown on death, so we have to fragment our kin just to fabricate fights. Then on top of that we get in these griefing cycles where it's like the chicken and the egg of who screwed who over first. This silly notion that ''They deserve X for doing Y and Z!!11!!!1!1'' that only leads to progressively dumber fights.
Basically, everyone needs to get over it and fight. Less talk, less griefing, less diplomacy, less raging, more killing, more dying.
/start final rant
Ithel, you could have killed 3 or 4 more creeps, but because you ran, your team got separated and everyone got rolled.
You are right i could of, but i left because of this:
Originally Posted by Rufustb
You said, 'hey, fight us at the ford' and then we fought on the ramp. It was stupid to start with, but we did it.
Why we pushed up to the ramp is beyond me.
Originally Posted by Jacbo
And when you have the same kin on both sides it's difficult to determine when you should free-for-all because there seems to be an expectation of playing favorites and a subsequent angered reaction if you don't.
Then on top of that we get in these griefing cycles where it's like the chicken and the egg of who screwed who over first. This silly notion that ''They deserve X for doing Y and Z!!11!!!1!1'' that only leads to progressively dumber fights.
Basically, everyone needs to get over it and fight. Less talk, less griefing, less diplomacy, less raging, more killing, more dying.
^^^^
The hypocrisy has been amazing lately, its dont kill me on my creep right now then the next thing you know the person who said that is killing you. That is just silly it should be free for all at all times, kin or not, so we dont run in to that non sense.
Even though I wasn't around for this recent event, I would just like to add that for a good solid two weeks any freep respawning could expect to get camped at TR by at least 3 wargs that were usually led by Diremaw. None of us rage-quit the server or created a forum post to complain about it though... we just moved in groups and dealt with it.
And I wouldn't complain about fighting without numbers, just yesterday you (prestige) tried to hunt me across half the freakin' map with a solid group of at least 10 although I was too busy running to count. Too bad it didn't work though
And as far as greenies go... Personally, I'm a burglar... Greenies are the "bacon" of creeps, and burglars enjoy their bacon. Somehow I predict that greenies will be continuously hunted to the end of time. It's the same idea as when weavers bury themselves outside of GV waiting for level 40s to meander into the open.
Ok ... so long and the short massive hypocrisy on both sides blah blah blah every get over it all blah blah blah .. etc etc etc everyone should be prepared to die at all times.
Having said that tbh lately I have been getting sick of having to chase freeps into TR ... and the solution for me is I am just not doing it any more... you run away back to TR continuously and have fun cos I aint heading up there. It is either that or we just take TR off you guys so you don't have it and would prefer if everyone had a spawn spot.
I haven't been in TR since the night where we capped it back and during that Aces death graced me with rank 6. (Thanks by the way )
PS
Yes Arakaz I see you 3 outside of EC, yes Arakaz I know there are probably about 6 wargs with you, and no Arakaz, you aren't going to get me :P but you can keep on tracking anyway
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Even though I wasn't around for this recent event, I would just like to add that for a good solid two weeks any freep respawning could expect to get camped at TR by at least 3 wargs that were usually led by Diremaw. None of us rage-quit the server or created a forum post to complain about it though... we just moved in groups and dealt with it.
True story here. Stuff like this happens all the time in the moors, you've just got to adapt and deal with it. One of my favorite fights on this server was when a group of us at OC tangled with a group at lug rez...and what do you know both sides got some good kills. As for what's been happening over the past couple of days I honestly dont know; a lot of Pariah has been focusing on getting ready for the new update instead of creeping. But rez camping really isnt the end of the world.
On a side note, there's no reason to be a greenie in the moors right now anyways. Wait for the new update to roll something new, greenies are the ones getting buffed.
Prestige, Hey... Your not a terrible WL, this server needs Warleaders. And I'll be the first to admit that my very own kin plays like a bunch of cowards most of the time (some call it playing smart...or farming) So yeah for those reasons you will be missed (if you dont just come back like last time). But yeah QQ more (sarcastic, QQing is what I do in vent, duh), not gonna miss that. And although greenie freep numbers are in decline, the amount of creep greens is always rising. Freeps will farm greens till the greens get wise, then they either quit or become stronger creeps. Its just the way of the moors.
Known as Cuba, Aces, Acez, Card, Quartermain, Ha, Get, and Disorder.
And I'll be the first to admit that my very own kin plays like a bunch of cowards most of the time (some call it playing smart...or farming)
Depends on what you're referring to. We run around the map because that's what people should be doing in a PvMP zone. I'm sick and tired of fighting at EC/STAB/TA, it isn't my fault there's creep-nip there. If creeps formed groups and ran around the map more we'd have more interesting fights, hell we might get a fight in Arador's End or the fields south of Dar-Gazag once in a blue moon.
Do we need to start giving tours of the Moors and naming rocks for reference? It's well known to freeps by now that if we move away from EC/TA the creeps will dissipate because they're only there by way of collective consciousness and terrain familiarity. The name of the game is getting kills (and being killed), and it's more effective in the long run to choose 5 good fights over the course of an hour than to run face first into 20 bad ones.
Some people are impatient, I'm not. I know that renown means nothing to me and infamy means everything to creeps. So when the fighting gets stupid, I make creeps fight on my terms if they want to rank. This is logic, not cowardice, and labeling it otherwise is only an angered attempt at goading a reaction that results in poor tactical decisions. Tactics are what makes PvMP interesting, if all we do all day is have both sides faceroll into stab, and our idea of being "brave" is continuing to do so against overwhelming odds, then I have better things to waste my time on.
So when the fighting gets stupid, I make creeps fight on my terms if they want to rank. This is logic, not cowardice, and labeling it otherwise is only an angered attempt at goading a reaction that results in poor tactical decisions. Tactics are what makes PvMP interesting, if all we do all day is have both sides faceroll into stab, and our idea of being "brave" is continuing to do so against overwhelming odds, then I have better things to waste my time on.
^^^
People cant control the way others choose to play the game; if others can't accept then then PvP probably is not the place for them.
It all depends on whether you want the highest rating or good fights. If you want the highest rating, continue. If you want good fights, the creeps are going to need to get some infamy so it's a challenge even when they don't significantly outnumber the freeps. Fighting a ton of green creeps is not really fun. Fighting an even number of rank 5+ creeps is both fun and a challenge - or so I assume since we never have that on this server. I know that when I go out there I can either do damage or survive well, I'm just not skilled enough to do both against high-ranked creeps yet in fervour - so I don't care about my rating. I'd rather beat on 5 creeps around me, do a lot of damage to all of them, and die (while my group finishes them off) than try to entice a single greenie to run out for a safe nuke.
Just saying, I got on the other night first time in a week or so to say hi and what not. I logged in to seeing ainur raid of about 10 fighting greenies inside oc. Part of the reason i dont play here, also the other part being that the creeps wont join a raid i make due to lack of liking me which doesnt hurt my feeling any. If you guys actualy could get the creeps green dots or not to actualy particpate in a raid with somone who knows what they are doing and listen then this server would actualy be decent for pvmp. Only time i ever see a raid is with tickle runing it and seems to be that animals/pariah and what ever else still like to try to do solo stuff rather then group and get more inf and get something done. Sorry if this doesnt make to much since but ya playing on other servers makes me see that you guys need some actual leaders and to get some creeps listening to put up a real fight.
I have yet grouped with Tickle, so I can't say how them raids do go. I do know she slapped my toon so I flipped over and killed her a 5-6 times ha-ha. Yes most creeps on this server are very very inexperienced. Wahime(Fuzion) and I lead a lot of raids over on Windfola/Silverload. We tried once on this server but even trying to get the creeps to do anything right is like pulling teeth. Simple we gave up and stick to our small groups. Freeps are the same way it just happens that they are using our vent and they focus fire and win. creeps don't.
The JakeSpeed, Alcopwn many more.. [Freepside Retired]
True true. I wasnt saying tickls raids are bad just taht she only one i have yet to see run them. But yah it was good a wile back then went down hill. Maybe i can try to get on and actualy get a raid going or something but like i said animals and pariah both dont like grouping with me eventho i know if i could get one going i could get a good fight for you guys.
lol, yes come single handedly save dwarrow pvmp please! it has nothing to do with the greenies getting farmed so bad, even in raids, they never come back, or they cant rank up to make actual good fights, or when the fights are good the freeps log cuz they die three times. I'm sure that has nothing to do with it. It's lotro pvp, it sucks sometimes its good other times. It hasn't changed in years and i doubt you'll make much of a difference if you come play hero and lead raids.
Single handidly yes i do think so. All it takes is somone to actualy lead. So yes somone who can get the creeps to do whats being said is all it takes to know what target to kill first and to make sure they are all assisting and stayin on task. So yes bio you are one of the ones who wont group. Think i have started 1 group with you in it and the last group i had which was about 3 weeks ago was 2 r4+ not counting myself and a few greenies and blues that took out the same size freep raid. Which if you play on a larger server all it takes is a leader and a raid to follow directions to get it done. And I said not myself but anyone who would actualy lead them. Arakaz, Aces, ticklek, who ever. So try not to talk ???? im just saying my opinon if you dont like it dont read on and dont talk smack...just ignore if u dont like.
Nah man what Bio is saying is you are prone to hissy fits and rage quitting....not to mention leaving server every month. Fact is DD is in trouble as the people who do lead like to swear and carry on like ego maniacs. Hell,I aint gonna join a pug raid if someone tells me to f*cking do what they say or Im wrong, I cant stand that ????...had enough of it on Ark. Gotta lead by example, man I would step up but the creeps aint interested in listening.
If people are interested I'll turn this server around, lot of people can back up my leadership as I have done it for a long ??? time...just been rolling solo and making freeps freak at the lil swarg even though I love em, lots of good peeps over there. Much love for some of the dudes like Toa, Chaco and Guido. Tickle is ma homie and she knows how it works to rock a pug, props to her for trying.
Funny dire i have never been in a raid with you either and my freep raids that i did lead there b4 sno got back i was liked and had some of the largest raids out there. When sno got back he got pissed and kicked me out of ainur for lack of understanding what i said. But i know he told people other things and i didnt say a thing as i dont care to much we have talked since then and nothing bad came up after that. Also i dont curse in raids but being playfull. As runing raids.... pretty sure i have plenty of experiance in This only a month or so but in wow i have 5 years and eq1 i had 2 years of experiance.
So in short dire dont speak of what you dont know. I got a bad name due to sno kicking me out of ainur. So dont talk like you know me or my raids please thank you
Edit: also rage quiting? i left server on my freep and made that clear when i gave away alot of my freep stuff and havent played him since. I told all my friends that i was still going to get on my creep everyso often. you wouldnt know this cause i really dont know you. And i left to play on a more populated server that is all.
Please come back and save Dwarrow Justifies! Your raids are the tastiest. I'll happily wait until you figure out how to play your classes, and maybe some of you will figure out how other classes play. Once you get your freep raid in shape, Pariah will log on for a couple nights in force and roll you over and over.
Please come back and save Dwarrow Justifies! Your raids are the tastiest. I'll happily wait until you figure out how to play your classes, and maybe some of you will figure out how other classes play. Once you get your freep raid in shape, Pariah will log on for a couple nights in force and roll you over and over.
Pretty sure you didnt read any of the previous posts... I play a creep and i know how to play my classes ty. plz bring more drama in pariah...
hahahahaha yep I'm a dick, I hate leading and the fact that I have to do it makes me angry. Lead the raid and you wont have to listen to me talk like I was taught. Sometimes the only way to get passed thick skulls and sissy habits is a heavy hand and in this game and any other mmo that heavy hand is social. If I was all sunflowers and sugar no one would take me seriously. And I know what I'm doing if I ask a warg to check lug, I expect it done if I am leading, no exceptions. Sometimes you just have to be a team player.
Known as Cuba, Aces, Acez, Card, Quartermain, Ha, Get, and Disorder.
How has it been? Is this server still well versed in the art of the RK and warden? Did you guys ever get a real guardian? I am not sure if I will ever find out... But just dropping in to say hi!
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