Thread: Remove daily deed advancement limit

Please remove the limit as to how far you can advance a deed per day.

Now that LotRO is F2P it makes little sense to have an arbitrary limit on deed progress. Back when the only way to play was to subscribe, this meant that you (Turbine) were guaranteed that people would be subscribed as long as possible to complete their deeds.

I propose either the limit be removed or an item be placed in the store that you can buy per character to remove the limit.

I think it still makes sense as if provides a throttling mechanism for how fast a non-paying player can earn TPs. There has to have some incentives to buy TPs and thus generate revenue. Remember, the commercial goal is still to persuade players to pay something, even if it is not a subscription. Your suggestion of a limited time per-character limit increase or removal might be a suitale compromise.

Originally Posted by mjk47

I think it still makes sense as if provides a throttling mechanism for how fast a non-paying player can earn TPs. There has to have some incentives to buy TPs and thus generate revenue. Remember, the commercial goal is still to persuade players to pay something, even if it is not a subscription. Your suggestion of a limited time per-character limit increase or removal might be a suitale compromise.

It's a throttling mechanic on how fast anybody can go from noob to fully traited 65 as well, and an annoying one at that.

I see why it's there, understand why it's there, but that doesn't mean i have to like it =P

Originally Posted by Almagnus1

It's a throttling mechanic on how fast anybody can go from noob to fully traited 65 as well, and an annoying one at that.

I see why it's there, understand why it's there, but that doesn't mean i have to like it =P

Taking less than 6 months would be an unseemly rush.

Sounds like an argument for removing the daily cap for subscribers!

It's always been a nonsensical P.I.T.A.

Why is it unreasonable to just sit there and spend 5 hours completing a deed? Never understood this garbage.

I do not agree with the OP at all.

I think the most it takes to complete any other those deeds is 10 days if you really work at it. 10 days is not forever and is not too long.

I pay a subscription every month to play. I expect to be able to work on my deeds when and for how long I please. Not to mention the new daily task.

Remove this limit.

1) Completely remove the cap for Subscibers

They are paying for the game so throttling them is excessive attempts at trying to wallet gouge

2) Trait Deeds should NOT be capped at all

Slayer or hobbie deeds... I can sort of understand since you earn TP for them and it's essentially cosmetic.

Throttling the ability to get traits for classes is entirely silly and borderline ******** when some skills can be difficult to actually use. I.E RKs being unable to get sufficient Attuenement to USE the skills let alone use them enough.
Either the amount for these kinds of skills needs to be reduced or the cap limit removed so that they can be gotten as fast as the person is willing to grind doing it.

If I spend an entire day using a skill then I should be able to get FULL credit for doing so. Not hit my head against an invisible barrier that says only X amount of skill usage counts...

Originally Posted by Galabrien

Slayer or hobbie deeds... I can sort of understand since you earn TP for them and it's essentially cosmetic.

1. Slayer deeds do not have a daily limit.
2. Slayer deeds give you virtues (which are vital at high levels), not just some cosmetic title.

Originally Posted by StavroMuellerBeta

1. Slayer deeds do not have a daily limit.
2. Slayer deeds give you virtues (which are vital at high levels), not just some cosmetic title.

So one can kill hundreds of NPCs and get virtues without being capped but skill usage is capped, do you not see why this is insanely stupid ?

Originally Posted by Playswithmatches

I pay a subscription every month to play. I expect to be able to work on my deeds when and for how long I please. Not to mention the new daily task.

Remove this limit.

Now that class deeds give Turbine Points Turbine will never remove this limit. It prevents customers from creating characters leveling them up. Quickly grinding the early class deeds for points.

This is the same reason players are limited to five tasks per day to start with. Turbine does not want players grinding tasks for the rewards.

Originally Posted by Yula_the_Mighty

Now that class deeds give Turbine Points Turbine will never remove this limit. It prevents customers from creating characters leveling them up. Quickly grinding the early class deeds for points.

This is the same reason players are limited to five tasks per day to start with. Turbine does not want players grinding tasks for the rewards.

Then what is the point of having task and deeds if your not allowed to enjoy the rewards? Or at least you can't enjoy them until Turbine says it's ok.

The ten points or so I get for completing a deed with not break Turbines store. It cost 295 tp just to get a lousy emote!

Originally Posted by Playswithmatches

Then what is the point of having task and deeds if your not allowed to enjoy the rewards? Or at least you can't enjoy them until Turbine says it's ok.

The ten points or so I get for completing a deed with not break Turbines store. It cost 295 tp just to get a lousy emote!

Turbine is not giving us Turbine Points via in game activities just to be nice. They are a teaser just like a half price coupon to get us to buy points with dollars. The free points are figured into the prices just like coupon discounts are figured into the prices of everything a store sells. The more free points they let us get --> The higher prices of stuff in the store will be in Turbine Points.

Like the airline years ago that decided they could save dollars by taking one cherry tomato out of every airline salad. That single tomato did not cost much. The optimization folks went - we use millions of these tomatoes in a year. One tomato per salad works out to be $10,000 over the course of a year. That ten points - ARV - ten cents is multiplied across all the characters and players. It works out to be a decent number of dollars across the entire customer base.

It is this method that companies use to save money. They do not save money via a big cost savings. It is thousands of little savings of thousand here, ten thousand there for a billion dollar a year company done by knocking one cent of something they buy or do a lot.

It is the most effective way to save money at the personal level. You buy a coffee from Dunkin Donuts on the way to work. That is 250 coffees a year for most people (50 work weeks - 5 days a week). Easy way to save 500 dollars.

The tasks are the same way. A teaser to give players a little of reward each real time day. Only for a limited range of levels. You want more reputation. More experience points. You have to access the quests in the region. That means buying a content pack. You need points for that. You can not get them by grinding class deeds - they are daily limited. So you have to buy the points with dollars. That what Turbine wants. Dollars.

For folks like me. I have a lifetime. If there something in the store I want. I got my stipend. I got limits on class deeds for earning points. I either have to wait. Or I have to put dollars into the basket. I am like most people. I did not want to wait. I put some dollars - 50 for the 6,900 pt specials.

Bottom line - Companies do not see it as 10 cent for a deed. They sum the ARV of all such deeds done by entire customer base over a period of time like a month.