Thread: The Palantir Private Preview Program

Thanks for all of the speedy clarifications Kehleyr!

Originally Posted by Kehleyr

Palantir is far more strongly focused on the qualitative aspect of the content. That is: Is this quest fun? What makes it not fun? Is this instance balanced? Is this boss too hard? Does this new skill seem overpowered?

Very good to know that this is a focus of the program. While bugs can be a source of immense frustration, bugs can be fixed. "Fun" is what makes people WANT to play. It's nice to know that Turbine actually DOES focus on "FUN".

Hey Kehleyr I'm going to Kauai soon wanna come??

Any idea when the next round of apps are to be sorted?

I guess the program is as much as you put into it, is how much you get out of it. I.e by helping them with solid feedback will improve your own game on 'Live'. These chaps/Ladies do a good job and just want good folk to help improve the game.

Good Luck to anyone wishing to enter the program and make sure you do all your best to help them out!

The last batch of PPP invites went out on the 26:th of July, right?

Originally Posted by Kehleyr

The fifth batch of invitations to the Palantir Private Preview Program just went out!
EDIT: Please note this applies to applications sent in from 06/17/11 through 07/25/11. If you sent your application on 07/26 or later it has not been processed yet and you do not need to reapply.

There have been no further invitations since this time. Just keep watching this thread

/still hopeful he may be allowed to apply by Update 5 or 6.

Additionally. I would like to thank you and your team (both of professional testers and the folks in this program) for all the hard work they put into testing update 4, I had only a few minor problems doing every quest, and I think only one of those could be something one could remotely expect to notice without a fresh set of eyes after testing build after build). Well done.

Originally Posted by Raven-EU

The last batch of PPP invites went out on the 26:th of July, right?

That is correct.

We are woefully overdue. I hope to have some good news for you folks within the next couple weeks.

Originally Posted by Kehleyr

That is correct.

We are woefully overdue. I hope to have some good news for you folks within the next couple weeks.

I see the lights in the QA department are burning bright even on weekends. I would say don't rush, keep quality before quantity

Originally Posted by Raven-EU

I see the lights in the QA department are burning bright even on weekends. I would say don't rush, keep quality before quantity

Hear hear! I'd say at least a little celebration is due for all the team's hard work on RoI.

Originally Posted by Kehleyr

That is correct.

We are woefully overdue. I hope to have some good news for you folks within the next couple weeks.

Good news. Yay!.. So many things It could be, and I'm sure that anything would be wonderful to hear so we'll all be waiting with anticipation!,

:wild speculation follows:
If it's that a round of invites has gone out, Yay! to the successful applicants.
If its that everyone can apply regardless of subscription status, Yay! for an increased applicant pool
If it's that you guys have pushed through the tests on a implied patch or hotfix coming before update 5, Yay!.. (See various remarks to the effect of 'the latest this should be fixed is u5')
If it means that QA is getting ready to do something else spiffy (whether you have or haven't hinted at it yet) YAY!

:speculation ends:
Thanks for continuing to monitor and respond to this thread.


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Originally Posted by Crell_1

Hear hear! I'd say at least a little celebration is due for all the team's hard work on RoI.



Good news. Yay!.. So many things It could be, and I'm sure that anything would be wonderful to hear so we'll all be waiting with anticipation!,

:wild speculation follows:
If it's that a round of invites has gone out, Yay! to the successful applicants.
If its that everyone can apply regardless of subscription status, Yay! for an increased applicant pool
If it's that you guys have pushed through the tests on a implied patch or hotfix coming before update 5, Yay!.. (See various remarks to the effect of 'the latest this should be fixed is u5')
If it means that QA is getting ready to do something else spiffy (whether you have or haven't hinted at it yet) YAY!

:speculation ends:
Thanks for continuing to monitor and respond to this thread.


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Wow, you do read into things...

I was referring to another round of invites - nothing more, nothing less.

Originally Posted by Kehleyr

Wow, you do read into things...

I was referring to another round of invites - nothing more, nothing less.

And this all I was actually expecting.

Note the term 'wild speculation' . Perhaps I'd be better called a optimist. Rather than post a huge wall of text here. I'll drop you a PM.

Originally Posted by Kehleyr

Wow, you do read into things...

I was referring to another round of invites - nothing more, nothing less.

Well... we are talking about a Palantir, which sees things in the past, present and possible futures anywhere the user has the power to look...and can be colored by the visions of other users..

O....Lord...

Originally Posted by TheNefarious

Living in Canada is not an issue so long as you have an active VIP subscription on one of the U.S. servers.

Can anyone from Turbine please confirm whether (as the above would seem to indicate) players who are on the former EU servers are excluded from the Palantir Program? I have three Lifetime Accounts and one VIP, but all of them are located on the Laurelin (ex-EU) Server.

Does this mean that *none* of my Accounts would be eligible for Palantir?

Incidentally, and whilst writing: having read the criteria on the first page of this thread, where I did not actually see anything excluding non-US subscribers, I sent in an application which almost literally "crossed in the post" with the last round of Palantir invites, which I learned (after applying!) had been sent out two days before I sent in my application.

If I am not already automatically excluded because I play on an ex-EU server, do I need to reapply, since my application was sent a *long* time ago - 29th July, to be precise?

Many thanks in advance for any official advice on these two questions.

Best,

Demelza of Lórien
Friend of the Wild and Lady of Streams

Originally Posted by Demelza

Can anyone from Turbine please confirm whether (as the above would seem to indicate) players who are on the former EU servers are excluded from the Palantir Program? I have three Lifetime Accounts and one VIP, but all of them are located on the Laurelin (ex-EU) Server.

Does this mean that *none* of my Accounts would be eligible for Palantir?

That comment was made at a time when Turbine only had control over the U.S. service, and no control over the EU Service.

Everyone is now playing on the Turbine service, so even former EU players can apply.

Originally Posted by Demelza

Incidentally, and whilst writing: having read the criteria on the first page of this thread, where I did not actually see anything excluding non-US subscribers, I sent in an application which almost literally "crossed in the post" with the last round of Palantir invites, which I learned (after applying!) had been sent out two days before I sent in my application.

If I am not already automatically excluded because I play on an ex-EU server, do I need to reapply, since my application was sent a *long* time ago - 29th July, to be precise?

If you have applied since the last batch of invites went out, you don't need to do anything.

If a batch of invites goes out, and you didn't get in, you can reapply in the next window.

@Brya:

Originally Posted by Brya

[Helpful advice]

Thanks very much for your fast, helpful and informative reply.

You answered all of my questions most clearly and I'm grateful to you for taking the time and trouble to do so.

Much appreciated!

Best,

Demelza of Lórien
Friend of the Wild and Lady of Streams

Sounds interesting

The sixth batch of invitations to the Palantir Private Preview Program just went out!

Please check your email for an invite. Please assure you check junk/spam folders as our emails have been filtered there in the past.

Please remember that all aspects of this program are confidential, so if you have been invited to join please do not post here or anywhere else stating so.

We thank everyone for applying, and if you didn't get invited this time around you are welcome to apply again at any time.

EDIT: Please note this applies to applications sent in from 07/26/11 through 10/10/11. If you sent your application on 10/11 or later it has not been processed yet and you do not need to reapply.

Just wanted to ask when the next round of invites will be. I know the next round may be far off but... I check my e-mail alot and I only look for one thing. It's pretty easy to guess what that one thing is.

Originally Posted by calmante

Just wanted to ask when the next round of invites will be. I know the next round may be far off but... I check my e-mail alot and I only look for one thing. It's pretty easy to guess what that one thing is.

Turbine Store sales?! Me too!

Evening,

Do we have any word if any more phases are coming? A couple of guys in the community were wondering.

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Honvikuk

Evening,

Do we have any word if any more phases are coming? A couple of guys in the community were wondering.

Thanks in advance.

We are currently targeting the beginning of March.

Originally Posted by Kehleyr

We are currently targeting the beginning of March.

Any news when Beta sign-ups for RoR will be available?

Originally Posted by Starbuck1771

Any news when Beta sign-ups for RoR will be available?

Beta will be handled by the Online Community, that is Sapience and Celestrata's team. It is not handled by QA, like this program.

There will be no information provided about the RoR Beta here. Sorry!!

Originally Posted by Kehleyr

We are currently targeting the beginning of March.

Reminds me to re-apply... I'm running out of ways to permute my old application so I might have to re-word it! I wonder if posting the exact same application every time is detrimental to the chance of getting accepted

Originally Posted by Raven-EU

Reminds me to re-apply... I'm running out of ways to permute my old application so I might have to re-word it! I wonder if posting the exact same application every time is detrimental to the chance of getting accepted

From the first page:

Q: If I do not get accepted the first time I apply, should I bother to reapply? If my original explanation wasn't enough to get me in, maybe I could include additional information and be accepted later on?
A: Yes, we definitely encourage this. We have had several participants that applied more than once. If, upon hindsight, you think your application may have been lacking, by all means revise it and try again. What we don’t encourage is submitting the exact same application over and over. This isn’t a lottery – more attempts don’t make acceptance more likely.

Originally Posted by Ayrolen

From the first page:

Q: If I do not get accepted the first time I apply, should I bother to reapply? If my original explanation wasn't enough to get me in, maybe I could include additional information and be accepted later on?
A: Yes, we definitely encourage this. We have had several participants that applied more than once. If, upon hindsight, you think your application may have been lacking, by all means revise it and try again. What we don’t encourage is submitting the exact same application over and over. This isn’t a lottery – more attempts don’t make acceptance more likely.

If I understood him correctly, he's indicating submitting the same application with the same answers each time where as that references sending in your application 50 times in a row as an example in the hopes your application is picked.

Originally Posted by Unixbomber

If I understood him correctly, he's indicating submitting the same application with the same answers each time where as that references sending in your application 50 times in a row as an example in the hopes your application is picked.

Interesting interpretation - I can see now how that can be read that way. I will reword it.

Given that, the way Ayrolen interprets that FAQ is the way it was intended. Submitting the same app every cycle is what we discourage. We don't just arbitrarily reject applications. There are reasons why we don't accept an application. Therefore, to continue to submit the same application just means the outcome will be the same.

Something like the definition of insanity...

Can we apply for the ROR Palantir yet?

Originally Posted by Fatty_Lumpkin

Can we apply for the ROR Palantir yet?

Expansion betas are not run on Palantir. They're run on Bullroarer by OCR staff (Sapience, Celestrata, etc). And the last beta did not have any application. Testers were chosen by the OCR staff. I'm sure there will be an announcement sometime this Summer when they have more information on it.

Originally Posted by Fatty_Lumpkin

Can we apply for the ROR Palantir yet?

Sound like you're looking for the RoR Beta Program. That is not what this thread addresses.

Once decisions have been made about any beta program for RoR, the details will be announced on how to participate.

I'm curious if I can participate in this program.

I've had a few forum infractions previously ( I got upset about a few things and made my unhappiness public a number of times) but that was quite a long time ago and I'm over it now ( stopped playing my burglar ) and any points or tickets I had have long since expired?

So, am I permanently out of any beta programs now? Or have I been forgiven?

Originally Posted by Faithknight

I'm curious if I can participate in this program.

I've had a few forum infractions previously ( I got upset about a few things and made my unhappiness public a number of times) but that was quite a long time ago and I'm over it now ( stopped playing my burglar ) and any points or tickets I had have long since expired?

So, am I permanently out of any beta programs now? Or have I been forgiven?

I can't speak for beta programs, I can only speak for this, the private preview program.

From post #3 in this thread:

Originally Posted by Frequently Asked Questions

Q: What is a "clean forum and game history"? Does this mean one can have no infractions whatsoever?
A: This means any marks or infractions that actually cause 'time out' from the forums or the game. So if you received points that actually caused a temporary banning. Even then, if you have suffered something like this and sincerely want to participate, go ahead and apply and explain the situation. We can see outside the box.

What we are looking for is a community that can participate and interact with other people without resorting to insults and misbehavior to get their point across. Palantir is about being a safe place to state your opinion where others can be free to agree or disagree and not have to suffer consequences for it.

Sounds like you don't have anything to worry about, based on your post.

The seventh batch of invitations to the Palantir Private Preview Program just went out!

Please check your email for an invite. Please assure you check junk/spam folders as our emails have been filtered there in the past.

Please remember that all aspects of this program are confidential, so if you have been invited to join please do not post here or anywhere else stating so.

We thank everyone for applying, and if you didn't get invited this time around you are welcome to apply again at any time.

EDIT: Please note this applies to applications sent in from 10/11/11 through 03/27/12. If you sent your application on 03/28 or later it has not been processed yet and you do not need to reapply.

its a really long thread to read:/ i want to join this too tbh cause i love bug checking and testing staff
But i dunno the requirements, i mean what i really have to do and how often i have to do what i wil be asked to do.I'm confused in other words hehe.
Well i had some post like rage posts before is there chance to get purified and join this?I was accepted since RoI beta and ive been to all of them and check,test staff but i just realised there is an even better way to express my thoughts to this game through Palantir.

So if someone can say 1-2 things about in a resume it would be really appriciated!

Originally Posted by Tangaar

its a really long thread to read:/ i want to join this too tbh cause i love bug checking and testing staff
But i dunno the requirements, i mean what i really have to do and how often i have to do what i wil be asked to do.I'm confused in other words hehe.
Well i had some post like rage posts before is there chance to get purified and join this?I was accepted since RoI beta and ive been to all of them and check,test staff but i just realised there is an even better way to express my thoughts to this game through Palantir.

So if someone can say 1-2 things about in a resume it would be really appriciated!

1. Read every post by Kehleyr at the beginning of the thread. It clearly describes the process for applying.
2. What you 'have to do' once accepted, will be clearly explained at that time.
3. If you cannot communicate well in and comprehend written English, you may not be a good fit for this program. I presume developers will want to be able to readily communicate with you about your feedback, tests, bug reports, and other things currently undergoing testing.

Originally Posted by Crell_1

1. Read every post by Kehleyr at the beginning of the thread. It clearly describes the process for applying.
2. What you 'have to do' once accepted, will be clearly explained at that time.
3. If you cannot communicate well in and comprehend written English, you may not be a good fit for this program. I presume developers will want to be able to readily communicate with you about your feedback, tests, bug reports, and other things currently undergoing testing.

ty mate.i saw so many pages and it drove me crazy at first lol

Originally Posted by PierreForever

Do we Premiums and F2ps really matter? I mean come on! Its not like we pay for something every month.... Of course we don't matter, all turbine can say is, Money Money Money!!!!!

Nah, it's lawyers. If you ask them, "How can I do X in such a way as not to risk getting sued?" they reply, "That's simple, don't do X at all." In fact, they say that before you ask.

Originally Posted by PierreForever

Do we Premiums and F2ps really matter? I mean come on! Its not like we pay for something every month.... Of course we don't matter, all turbine can say is, Money Money Money!!!!!

That is totally unfair. How do you expect to be a tester if you don't have access to all of the content? How do you think NDA would work with no accountability?

If you cared that much $15 a month, the most expensive way to subscribe, is what? A few less coffees, Big Macs, beers, whatever a month.

Originally Posted by Radbug

That is totally unfair. How do you expect to be a tester if you don't have access to all of the content? How do you think NDA would work with no accountability?

If you cared that much $15 a month, the most expensive way to subscribe, is what? A few less coffees, Big Macs, beers, whatever a month.

Considering that expansions aren't auto-granted to VIPs, it's quite possible for a Premium player to have access to more content than a VIP player. That does exclude Monster Play, but surely an unwillingness to participate in PvP won't immediately disqualify someone for Palantir?