nice 1v1's at TR hs for those that were there tonight. My LM just hit 65 so i still have a ****** weapon, and atm i dont think i can take on a high ranked reaver w/o counsil of the wisdom or man heal (still learning on the class abit)...
btw something that bugged me alot while i was fighting aerther(reaver) on my hunter...why are all reavers so ashamed to lose to a hunter that they run away or break los to reset the whole fight after they regen morale? i seriously have no respect for those ppl, dont tell me " i have to do it cause i have no range skills while you kite me" because 1st off its almost impossible to kite you since you b/p/e and resist my lowcut/quickshot(slow)... how would you like it if im seeing im about to lose and i use my snares to leave combat so i could DF? take the loss like a man
big salute to whitestripes, i honestly didnt like you since you were a transfer but you seem a humble guy ( didnt go overkill using cripplebite+pounce CJ everyone knows shouldnt be there atm)
1. I WISH a reaver would run from me in the middle of a fight...hehe.
2. I would love to fight Whitestripes, no matter what skills he uses, without he gang of friends beating me to a pulp.
Nice to hear someone is finding some good fights though. I was still dealing with the sleepies and culture shock post GenCon blues last night, and I've got dinner plans tonight, but I hope soon to get back into the flow out there.
Second Marshal Luc Brandenbuck ~Battlemaster~
Stalker's Enemy*Reaver's Enemy*Blackarrow's Enemy*Warleader-Foe*Weaver's Enemy*Defiler-Foe Champion:'The only thing our opponents can do that we care about is die.'-Graalx2
I found 3 seperate solo fights (with three different freeps) away from TR last night. I was quite excited! Look forward to seeing you out there again Luc, the waterfall has been lonely. And I have a new skill to try out on you too, hehe.
Dredd and I also had some fun 2vHunters behind TR, which were entertaining. We kept wanting to leave, and then more would show up!
btw something that bugged me alot while i was fighting aerther(reaver) on my hunter...why are all reavers so ashamed to lose to a hunter that they run away or break los to reset the whole fight after they regen morale? i seriously have no respect for those ppl, dont tell me " i have to do it cause i have no range skills while you kite me" because 1st off its almost impossible to kite you since you b/p/e and resist my lowcut/quickshot(slow)... how would you like it if im seeing im about to lose and i use my snares to leave combat so i could DF? take the loss like a man
A well-played hunter who gets the jump on a reaver can kite us into oblivion. Demonizer is a GREAT example of a hunter who knows how to a)get the jump on you and b)utilize that advantage to keep you slowed and kited. It is ~not~ impossible.
To be honest, I do not try to reset the fight, but I ~do~ try to use my terrain to break LOS to regain an advantage. If I break LOS, the hunter has to choose to either a)regain LOS and hit me (which possibly gets you back in my range) or b) allow me to drop combat, which allows me to charge you. I'm not going to sit there and regenerate; I'll be smashing charge as soon as it lights up.
Take the loss? Sure, I'll take a loss when it's inevitable and I won't run. Am I going to give you the kill without utilizing what I can (terrain, LoS, etc.)? Hell no.
If that makes me less respected, I won't lose any sleep. Asking a reaver to try not to regain melee range is like asking a hunter to voluntarily fight you in melee range the whole fight or asking a burglar to not utilize stealth to gain favorable position.
A well-played hunter who gets the jump on a reaver can kite us into oblivion. Demonizer is a GREAT example of a hunter who knows how to a)get the jump on you and b)utilize that advantage to keep you slowed and kited. It is ~not~ impossible.
To be honest, I do not try to reset the fight, but I ~do~ try to use my terrain to break LOS to regain an advantage. If I break LOS, the hunter has to choose to either a)regain LOS and hit me (which possibly gets you back in my range) or b) allow me to drop combat, which allows me to charge you. I'm not going to sit there and regenerate; I'll be smashing charge as soon as it lights up.
Take the loss? Sure, I'll take a loss when it's inevitable and I won't run. Am I going to give you the kill without utilizing what I can (terrain, LoS, etc.)? Hell no.
If that makes me less respected, I won't lose any sleep. Asking a reaver to try not to regain melee range is like asking a hunter to voluntarily fight you in melee range the whole fight or asking a burglar to not utilize stealth to gain favorable position.
I managed a 1v1 with Knickolo last night, not sure how we managed not to get interupted but it DOES happen...even on the return path from TR rez to EC. Had a 1v1 with Squeaky too, but I fudged my open and when he dropped his horse he was out of range for hamstring...and his raid was in range for Janky stompage. Ok so maybe he didn't consider that a 1v1...
What kind of fool comes to the battlefield to sing rather than fight? A dead fool.
Thank you for the entertainment!Did you know Boom Loves Junio?
I'm sorry you're sad that you get you *** beat by a girl everytime we 1vs1 and have to give me 50 excuses as to why you lost the next time we talk ;p j/k I really think defilers are pretty unbeatable 1vs1 well unless you're fighting Made that is....geez!
Anyway loved the fights and that reaver is awesome but you ran far enough away that you got out of combat for regen and stealth and stuff so him eating food wasn't that big a deal I thought.You guys should've had a set range for your fight or something cause ya'll used 1/4 of the map to fight ;p
Anyway the fights were sick and I was glad Blackie dropped by me to play me the harp.Always nice to see Blackie not killing me
I've been out on my hunter out there alot. I've had lots of 1v1s with almost every class now. I've beaten some ranked reavers with me getting the advantage from range, it's not impossible. Although I gotta say they do resist a lot of our slows. I'm also noticing a lot of peeps running from me as a solo hunter (when I'm alone anyways, you might catch me in a small hunter group) which is laughable. I do get destroyed if a good creep player gets a jump on me, though.
Originally Posted by sebo2yoface
how would you like it if im seeing im about to lose and i use my snares to leave combat so i could DF? take the loss like a man
You've done that to me before with some GV bears on me....just sayin'.
nice 1v1's at TR hs for those that were there tonight. My LM just hit 65 so i still have a ****** weapon, and atm i dont think i can take on a high ranked reaver w/o counsil of the wisdom or man heal
LMAO at "counsil of the wisdom"!
Yodaspeak FTW!
Also, Lore of the fire works well against reavers, too!
Also, Lore of the fire works well against reavers, too!
.....you nub.
lol <3 i know fire lore is awsome....just i had blown wisdom of council + man heal in previous fights and i was up against a r8 reaver with over 9k morale...im still learing and gathering stuff to make my LM better so hush!
Originally Posted by Sharp10
I've been out on my hunter out there alot. I've had lots of 1v1s with almost every class now. I've beaten some ranked reavers with me getting the advantage from range, it's not impossible. Although I gotta say they do resist a lot of our slows. I'm also noticing a lot of peeps running from me as a solo hunter (when I'm alone anyways, you might catch me in a small hunter group) which is laughable. I do get destroyed if a good creep player gets a jump on me, though.
You've done that to me before with some GV bears on me....just sayin'.
i dont DF on set up 1v1s...if im solo and you come and blindside me out of no where im gonna find my way to DF cause even if i may somehow find a way to regain the upperhand another creep can come and interrrupt and you wont tell him to back off....just saying
Originally Posted by Baslin
A well-played hunter who gets the jump on a reaver can kite us into oblivion. Demonizer is a GREAT example of a hunter who knows how to a)get the jump on you and b)utilize that advantage to keep you slowed and kited. It is ~not~ impossible.
To be honest, I do not try to reset the fight, but I ~do~ try to use my terrain to break LOS to regain an advantage. If I break LOS, the hunter has to choose to either a)regain LOS and hit me (which possibly gets you back in my range) or b) allow me to drop combat, which allows me to charge you. I'm not going to sit there and regenerate; I'll be smashing charge as soon as it lights up.
Take the loss? Sure, I'll take a loss when it's inevitable and I won't run. Am I going to give you the kill without utilizing what I can (terrain, LoS, etc.)? Hell no.
If that makes me less respected, I won't lose any sleep. Asking a reaver to try not to regain melee range is like asking a hunter to voluntarily fight you in melee range the whole fight or asking a burglar to not utilize stealth to gain favorable position.
i let the reaver start in charge....youd be surprised how much reavers bpe and resist hunters ways of kiting, take a day to see the stuff floating over your head....plus yea i dont mind if you break los to start in charge but some reavers actually eat food and regen morale before gaining the ball to come at me again
i let the reaver start in charge....youd be surprised how much reavers bpe and resist hunters ways of kiting, take a day to see the stuff floating over your head....plus yea i dont mind if you break los to start in charge but some reavers actually eat food and regen morale before gaining the ball to come at me again
I always see the damage I am and am not taking; there is nothing that surprises me there. Hunters do not have an easy time beating a reaver. It is not your favorable match-up, but it is NOT impossible. Also, if a reaver has the time to eat, you have the time to hit him and interrupt it.
... Also, if a reaver has the time to eat, you have the time to hit him and interrupt it.
Shaft him right through his corn dog!
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A well-played hunter who gets the jump on a reaver can kite us into oblivion. Demonizer is a GREAT example of a hunter who knows how to a)get the jump on you and b)utilize that advantage to keep you slowed and kited. It is ~not~ impossible.
To be honest, I do not try to reset the fight, but I ~do~ try to use my terrain to break LOS to regain an advantage. If I break LOS, the hunter has to choose to either a)regain LOS and hit me (which possibly gets you back in my range) or b) allow me to drop combat, which allows me to charge you. I'm not going to sit there and regenerate; I'll be smashing charge as soon as it lights up.
Take the loss? Sure, I'll take a loss when it's inevitable and I won't run. Am I going to give you the kill without utilizing what I can (terrain, LoS, etc.)? Hell no.
If that makes me less respected, I won't lose any sleep. Asking a reaver to try not to regain melee range is like asking a hunter to voluntarily fight you in melee range the whole fight or asking a burglar to not utilize stealth to gain favorable position.
A good Hunter can do that against a reaver that only know to charge and get killing blow with DS.
If the reaver has a clue on how to play his class, I doubt even the best hunter could pull it off. The only exception I can think of is if the hunter started with HS Burn hot, critted for 5k, hit merciful and Penetratiing shot and did 3k more, leaving the Reaver with only 1k morale left. But again, that would be just pure luck more than the skill of a hunter.
I'd be happy if anybody want to prove to me I'm wrong and if what has been stated in the quote can actually be done.
P.S: good luck kiting with a slow than can actually be cured lol
Last edited by Forza; Aug 10 2010 at 10:17 PM.
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Burzumgoth - Nardur - Zhugash - and others
P.S: good luck kiting with a slow than can actually be cured lol
Let me know where you get pots without CDs. I'm clearly missing something.
EDIT: This isn't to say hunters are not usually an easy match-up for reavers; they are. Against hunters who properly use snares, however, you DO need to use terrain to close the distance.
/goes back to charging and DSing his way through the 'moors.
You'll see good hunters beating high rank good reavers.
And hunter has various slows and the reaver can cure only one every 30 sec (and that pot is really expensive...).
Originally Posted by Baslin
Let me know where you get pots without CDs. I'm clearly missing something.
EDIT: This isn't to say hunters are not usually an easy match-up for reavers; they are. Against hunters who properly use snares, however, you DO need to use terrain to close the distance.
/goes back to charging and DSing his way through the 'moors.
My reaver is ready for testing that, it's easy, just bring a hunter and prove me wrong.
Nandir - Caradhraz - Alundil - and others
Burzumgoth - Nardur - Zhugash - and others
My reaver is ready for testing that, it's easy, just bring a hunter and prove me wrong.
At what point did I not speak from a reaver's perspective? I do not have a hunter.
My entire point in this thread was that it is not cheap or disrespectable for reavers to break LOS to counteract a hunter's snares/range and that hunters have a chance, albeit very slim, to successfully give a reaver trouble.