Not really asking about the boxer, more about the stacking of raids. I've watched freeps turtle until they get a raid full of cappies and minstrels and then roll out because they knew they were unstoppable against whatever they were facing. How is that any different than one of the creep DoT raids?
Freeps get what they get. Sometimes theres no healers, sometimes theres a lot. The DoT raids can be summoned at will and people will flip to BA's. Nobody learns how to raid that way.
Freeps get what they get. Sometimes theres no healers, sometimes theres a lot. The DoT raids can be summoned at will and people will flip to BA's. Nobody learns how to raid that way.
And worse, these DoT fests log (or sit in a keep until they have massive numbers) after they get wiped once.
And worse, these DoT fests log (or sit in a keep until they have massive numbers) after they get wiped once.
Freeps will do the same unless there is someone leading. Be amazed how much brass cahunas people will have when they are "in it together". Trusting your raid does wonders for having good fights. Other wise people will scatter like bugs and hide.
Freeps get what they get. Sometimes theres no healers, sometimes theres a lot. The DoT raids can be summoned at will and people will flip to BA's. Nobody learns how to raid that way.
I can't tell if you're being intentionally obtuse or not. Yes freeps get what they get, that wasn't my point. I was just curious what the difference was in stacking a raid on EITHER side beyond the obvious easier availability for creeps.
As for dot raids logging/turtling, maybe that's a symptom of more freeps trying out creepside and bringing their playstyle along? (Just stirring the pot here, we all know both sides are guilty of this.)
What kind of fool comes to the battlefield to sing rather than fight? A dead fool.
I was just curious what the difference was in stacking a raid on EITHER side beyond the obvious easier availability for creeps.
The difference depends on the mechanical skills and location of the raid.
PS> I thought you were implying that it's all the same if it's a healing vs say... a stealth zerg. It's not all the same. Kinda like playing rock, paper, scissors. One method will trump the other.
The difference depends on the mechanical skills and location of the raid.
The difference is knowing what you levelled to 65 and how to use the skills as you levelled + adapting them to a semi-pvp enviroment (ie: traiting a-75% to all bubble vs traiting +50 to all stats), and omg this mob just won't die and hits me hard.
Generally speaking, a multi-boxer’s “focus fire ability” is more due to the software passing a single command to multiple instances of the game than to the “quality of player.”
You seem to be using “unrealistic” in a sense with which I am unfamiliar. I often see 6 players (or multiples thereof) out at the same time. Sometimes they even group and work together...
Yes, thank you for taking the time to reiterate the obvious. Now, if you'll notice, we were comparing boxer focus-fire with the focus-fire ability of six different people working together. The "quality of player" aspect was referring to the six people working together. I mentioned that Insano is a good player in order to address the "unrealistc" (used in the usual way) scenario of running into six good players on hunter in the moors at the same time.
Once again you seem to be using terms in ways with which I am unfamiliar. While I may have stated the obvious (although, like common sense, the obvious generally isn’t...), I reiterated nothing. Nevertheless, reiteration and clearly stating the obvious are often necessary in discussions to ensure that all participants share a common frame of reference, which, in this particular instance, is patently not the case.
Originally Posted by Diablo1107
[...]we were comparing boxer focus-fire with the focus-fire ability of six different people working together.
To illustrate, your point here completely escapes me.
Originally Posted by Diablo1107
[...] a good player [...]
“Good” is a subjective term. How are you defining it? What collectively acceptable objective criteria can be used to determine “good” players? If you intend to cite the multi-boxer as the archetypal “good” player, I must object. In my opinion, a multi-boxer is, almost by definition, a less skilled player, multi-boxing to overcome their deficiencies.
Edro gûr lín /Mirdautas vras – Narnulublat... shum Sertsac’s Second Law of PvMP Dynamics: Inequity Increases
« N’attribuez jamais à la malveillance ce qui s’explique très bien par l’incompétence. »
Once again you seem to be using terms in ways with which I am unfamiliar. While I may have stated the obvious (although, like common sense, the obvious generally isn’t...), I reiterated nothing. Nevertheless, reiteration and clearly stating the obvious are often necessary in discussions to ensure that all participants share a common frame of reference, which, in this particular instance, is patently not the case.
To illustrate, your point here completely escapes me.
“Good” is a subjective term. How are you defining it? What collectively acceptable objective criteria can be used to determine “good” players? If you intend to cite the multi-boxer as the archetypal “good” player, I must object. In my opinion, a multi-boxer is, almost by definition, a less skilled player, multi-boxing to overcome their deficiencies.
I wanted to think you were joking, but I know the sad truth. In an attempt to seem more intelligent, you keep making irrelevant remarks, and nit-pick little things that just make your posts more pretentious. If you don't know what "good" means, then you can go sit on your hands and keep your thoughts to yourself. It doesn't take much to realize what is being suggested, but you insist on trying to make more out of this topic than it's worth.
If you're set on leaving another shallow response, please limit it to something in Franklin Gothic Medium font, size 3 and in red. You can post in Black Speed, or leave a video link that more or less expresses your feelings. Otherwise, I am not interested in responding to your abhorrent questions.
I'd like to point out that you made my point quite eloquently by missing it entirely...
Rather than focusing on "good" maybe you should start with "subjective." Rather than focusing on the person maybe you should take a look at the argument...
Oh, and look up abhorrent in a dictionary...
I’ll save the
Originally Posted by Diablo1107
Black Speed [sic]
for later, as it seems difficult enough to have a rational discussion in English.
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Reason: corrected spelling following diabolo1107’s kind remarks
Edro gûr lín /Mirdautas vras – Narnulublat... shum Sertsac’s Second Law of PvMP Dynamics: Inequity Increases
« N’attribuez jamais à la malveillance ce qui s’explique très bien par l’incompétence. »
I'd like to point out that you made my point quite eloquently by missing it entirely...
Rather than focusing on "good" maybe you should start with "subjective." Rather than focusing on the person maybe you should take a look at the argument...
Oh, and look up abhorrent in a dictionnary...
I already know what abhorrent means, perhaps you don't.
•S: (adj) abhorrent, detestable, obscene, repugnant, repulsive (offensive to the mind)
I'll try forever to find that "dictionnary."
Now if you'll get to the point. I suggest you start looking up arguments for "bombastic" and "misanthrope."
I already know what abhorrent means, perhaps you don't.
[...] I suggest you start looking up arguments for "bombastic" and "misanthrope."
All three are entirely inapplicable to anything I’ve said (in this discussion, at least). Perhaps, as I said before, you should work more on supporting your argument (whatever that may be, as it is still unclear to me) rather than making disparaging remarks. Failing which, you might point out how my posts in this thread can be taken as anything other than calm, rational discussion.
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« N’attribuez jamais à la malveillance ce qui s’explique très bien par l’incompétence. »
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