Thread: Can't talk to Forge-master

So just finished the legendary weapon quest line with my lvl 45 Loremaster. But when I try to talk to the forge-master now it wont let me talk to him. I can talk to the relic-master fine but not the forge-master.

Previously have only completed the quest line and used forge-master after lvl 50. Is this due to the fact that it sees me as too low lvl or is it a bug of some sort? Any input appreciated.

Edit: BTW have tried forge-masters in both Thorin's Hall and Rivendell.

Did you get your weapon to level 10?

Yes, completed quest line, got to lvl 10 and reforged. Never had a problem with any other toons, but once again those are all at least 50ish or above.

You have to complete Volume 2, Book 1 to fully activate the legendary item system. IIRC - You need to be 46 to do that.

You got to complete this quest:
http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Quest...BBm_At_Last%21

Get your starter Lore Master legendary book.

Great, that explains. Thanks much. Is that line started by the same npc Rathwald (sp?) at the gates leading from Eregion to Moria?

Originally Posted by tashtego9

Great, that explains. Thanks much. Is that line started by the same npc Rathwald (sp?) at the gates leading from Eregion to Moria?

It is in the quest writeup in the lore book. Follow and read which NPC gives it which is as you guessed Rathwald. The quest writeup has a link the prerequisite quest. You can follow the links backwards until you find where you stopped.

Wait. What quest are you talking about? I waited til L51, now all excited, and made my way to Thorin's Hall with my Minstrel's Songbook of the Third Age (it says it needs to be identified before it can be equipped), and there's some unmentioned quest that I still needed to do MONTHS ago before I can even TALK to the guy?

Who designed this?

If there's one thing I loathe in ANY game it's being forced to jump through hoops all the time.

Originally Posted by Tiamo

Wait. What quest are you talking about? I waited til L51, now all excited, and made my way to Thorin's Hall with my Minstrel's Songbook of the Third Age (it says it needs to be identified before it can be equipped), and there's some unmentioned quest that I still needed to do MONTHS ago before I can even TALK to the guy?

Yeah. You have to complete Volume 2, Book 1. It has always been that way. This is how Turbine prevents Shadows of Angmar customers from using legendary items. You have to purchase to purchase the Mines of Mora expansion. Unlock the legendary item system via Volume 2, Book 1 which is part of the Moria content for each character.

I DID buy Mines of Moria. I don't want to have to skip content so I can unlock Legendaries. I'm pretty ticked off now, Turbine knows what they can do with their Legendary items, I'm not about to start jumping through hoops.

It's just a game.

Originally Posted by Tiamo

I DID buy Mines of Moria. I don't want to have to skip content so I can unlock Legendaries. I'm pretty ticked off now, Turbine knows what they can do with their Legendary items, I'm not about to start jumping through hoops.

Perhaps you are playing the wrong game. There are hundreds of features that you have to go out and spend valuable time on to unlock. Some examples:

1) All traits
2) All virtues
3) Horse riding skill
4) Legendary items
5) Crafting tiers
6) Crafting guild rewards
7) Deed locked swift travel routes
8) Reputation locked swift travel routes
9) Reputation locked crafting recipes
10) East Angmar Access
11) Lothlorien outside access
12) Lorien City Access
13) Mirkwood access beyond the Landing Instance
14) Wait there is more...

LMAO! Good stuff Yula!

Yes, mocking an angry person is always the best way to influence them...

9_9

Volume I offered the same concept. You could work ahead of your current step. It's nothing new.

Edit: Misread the last poster's name.

Originally Posted by Tiamo

Yes, mocking an angry person is always the best way to influence them.

I am not mocking you. You are not the first person to belly ache about one or more of the "Content locked behind something". We "lock it behind" is fundamental feature of this game that is woven into everything we do.

Raising heck about it is futile. It will only be extended. Some people would say. Only get worse. I do not raise heck about dread, repair costs or any other fundamental feature. I accept them as being a given. These fundamental features go into my paying and playing decision matrix along with other aspects. There are a enough "It is driving me crazy" fundamental features. I will find something else to do. The reason I am here is my previous game reached "I can not take it any more".

That is reason I suggested that you might be playing the wrong game. It is an unacceptable game play mechanic to you. You might as well consider what you will do when you finally realize Turbine response is to ignore you:

1) Fuss for a while. Continue playing
2) Quit over it.

Originally Posted by Yula_the_Mighty

You have to complete Volume 2, Book 1 to fully activate the legendary item system. IIRC - You need to be 46 to do that.

You got to complete this quest:
http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Quest...BBm_At_Last%21

Get your starter Lore Master legendary book.

I don't mean to rehash old threads, but on my 46 RK, who has completed V2 BK1, and used the Rivendell FM and RM to do those quests in that book, cannot talk to either one in Rivendell now. Is this supposed to be like this? After doing the quests you can only use the FM and RM in expansion areas? Or is this a bug? Just figured I'd ask before /bug it.

Originally Posted by josec1234

I don't mean to rehash old threads, but on my 46 RK, who has completed V2 BK1, and used the Rivendell FM and RM to do those quests in that book, cannot talk to either one in Rivendell now. Is this supposed to be like this? After doing the quests you can only use the FM and RM in expansion areas? Or is this a bug? Just figured I'd ask before /bug it.

I had the same problem to the letter, and ended up having to go to the RM and FM in Mirobel to reforge my level 20 Legendary Weapon. I bugged it about 2 weeks ago, maybe they'll look into it. I also couldn't talk to the RM and FM in Thorin's Hall. I was either level 49 or 50 at the time.

I am currently having this issue, I am a level 47 RK with a level 20 Legendary Weapon. Thorins and Rivendell's FM and RM aren't working.

Any update on this?

Originally Posted by Healthedps

I am currently having this issue, I am a level 47 RK with a level 20 Legendary Weapon. Thorins and Rivendell's FM and RM aren't working.

Any update on this?

Have you tried the pair in Mirobel?

Originally Posted by Healthedps

I am currently having this issue, I am a level 47 RK with a level 20 Legendary Weapon. Thorins and Rivendell's FM and RM aren't working.

Any update on this?

are all of you absolutely sure you finished all of the "Walls of Moria" (Vol. 2, Book 1)? I've done it several times and I still forgot the other day, like a goober, to finish it off and get my secondary (class) LI. Make sure you have the "Seeker of Deep places" title. And carefully go back on your quest chain for Vol. 2, book 1 - just to make sure! You should have 14 chapters done (not counting the instances with the watcher etc). The last bit you go and talk to Tulk again - in the non-instance version of Walls of Moria - and he gives you your class slot LI.

Hopefully that's all it is. Good luck!

+Tiarnach+ tells you, 'The forgemasters in Rivendell and Thorin's Hall are used in the Volume 2 Book 1 quest only. For all other Relic or Forge needs, you would need to talk to a Forge or Relic Master in Moria or beyond.'
You tell +Tiarnach+, 'Interesting and maybe this could be mentioned on the forums? I say this because all research shows that these, and the ones in Mirobel, can be used after we are done with vol 2. Many are in my shoes with this misinformation.'
+Tiarnach+ tells you, 'I will certainly pass on that suggestion. Is there anything else I can assist you with?'
You tell +Tiarnach+, 'Does this include the ones in TH?'
+Tiarnach+ tells you, 'Yes.'

Originally Posted by Tiamo

I DID buy Mines of Moria. I don't want to have to skip content so I can unlock Legendaries. I'm pretty ticked off now, Turbine knows what they can do with their Legendary items, I'm not about to start jumping through hoops.

Then don't bother with legendaries until you're ready to head into Moria. It's the same quest line that you need to complete before you're allowed to enter Moria.

Just to update people about all of this but that GM, SENIOR GM, no less, was wrong. I do expect knowledgeable GMs or are we moving into the DDO style of GMs? Just saying that a Senior GM should have known better and helped me better.

Once you are done with Chapter 14, which I hadn't done when I talked to that GM, you may then use the masters (I only tested Rivendell but they both worked).

I hope this clarifies for everyone, including GMs.

Originally Posted by Vilost

are all of you absolutely sure you finished all of the "Walls of Moria" (Vol. 2, Book 1)? I've done it several times and I still forgot the other day, like a goober, to finish it off and get my secondary (class) LI. Make sure you have the "Seeker of Deep places" title. And carefully go back on your quest chain for Vol. 2, book 1 - just to make sure! You should have 14 chapters done (not counting the instances with the watcher etc). The last bit you go and talk to Tulk again - in the non-instance version of Walls of Moria - and he gives you your class slot LI.

Hopefully that's all it is. Good luck!

Perfection. Excellent post.

One should take note that when you finish the instance where you drive back the watcher in the water, the quest line does NOT chain automatically. You must talk to... I forget his name, the guy by the gate about 20 feet east of Echad Dunann. He will give you a quest, you watch a cutscene and poof, you are standing at Hollin's Gate and it is open. Enter, talk to Tulk and claim your class slot LI. NOW you can use Forge-masters and Relic-masters world-wide without any problems.