Turine, Thanks again for all the 1v1's tonight. It reminded me of all those times I Wrastled with my older brother whom surely could kick my A$$. Only at the last moment to lie down and let me win. Fun Stuff!
/Bow my friend.
Lol, nah it was needed practice, that last fight was yours... and I enjoy close fights, win or lose. /bow
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Awesome battle the other night Ralieth it was so much fun I had to make a video! I am also thankful you did not mind that I made one. Its a great thing to meet a challenging enemy. I did not realize how long that fight was until I looked at making the video. I think we battled it out for over 25 minutes lol. Its not a real fight unless you have goblins,trolls, and cliffs!
haha agreed, don't think i've ever had that much fun in a 1v1 in my own npcs lol. You are one survivable guy i gotta hand it to ya there.
I had no idea there was a video until Mac came on and was like, "hey rae how'd you like the vid?" I was so confused lol. Great job on it too, very suspenseful, looking forward to part 2!
That is a very nice vid of Rae v Ath... shows how formidable the classes can be when all skills are used... looking forward to Pt 2...
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Good 1v1 warg that killed me!! Didn't bother to look at the name....fight was at WTAB and I put up a terrible fight....
Doubled my physical mastery so I'll be looking for rematches with all these wargs that have ganked me these past months on my gimp champ (I am still about 10k mastery away from what a good champ has tho...)
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Good 1v1 warg that killed me!! Didn't bother to look at the name....fight was at WTAB and I put up a terrible fight....
Doubled my physical mastery so I'll be looking for rematches with all these wargs that have ganked me these past months on my gimp champ (I am still about 10k mastery away from what a good champ has tho...)
I'm sure they won't remember you either... since your name changes every week... Bumbledor, lulz.
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I'm Handi-capbale! FERVOUR: "Increases your Melee damage by something approaching 20%... the math is complicated so we can't be exact. Rest assured that we will not err in your favor though!" Hakon_Stormbrow TEAM F
Good 1v1 charged. Most fun ive had solo on champ in awhile...sorry I popped one of the bubbles tho. I'm rusty and undergeared so I thought I needed it.
Also good 3v1 wertes, fooborz, and r1 reaver in HH. Thanx for not healing the reaver....made it fun for me! If it wasnt for the bubble tho I think I would have gotten wertes to (if I got some crit in)
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Had many fun 1v1s the other night... been a while since I caught that many people solo during R v R time... bow to Deadarrow/Sword/Tarburz/Mealz... and a few others I can't even begin to spell... and I'm on to your troll stealth Tarburz ;p.
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Classic case of I can't beat that champ who is under geared, rusty, didn't pop any cooldowns and isn't great to begin with so I had to pop my store bought skill and take off!
just made me lul...
I wouldn't post it here but for some reason it wouldn't let me make a thread...
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Good 1v1 charged. Most fun ive had solo on champ in awhile...sorry I popped one of the bubbles tho. I'm rusty and undergeared so I thought I needed it.
Also good 3v1 wertes, fooborz, and r1 reaver in HH. Thanx for not healing the reaver....made it fun for me! If it wasnt for the bubble tho I think I would have gotten wertes to (if I got some crit in)
You mean the r1 reaver that was fighting hobbits and at half health? Yeah, good job killing him, that must've made you feel like you weren't completely worthless. If wertes and I were grouped you wouldn't have gotten close to taking him down. Only reason I didn't bubble him sooner was to keep you thinking you had a chance to kill him so you didn't sprint off into more npcs. So yeah, you killed a solo rank 1 reaver who had npcs on him, and you lost a 2v1 that really wasnt even close. Not sure why you chose to post it here, just trolling again no doubt. You really need a new hobby, and a life.
You mean the r1 reaver that was fighting hobbits and at half health? Yeah, good job killing him, that must've made you feel like you weren't completely worthless. If wertes and I were grouped you wouldn't have gotten close to taking him down. Only reason I didn't bubble him sooner was to keep you thinking you had a chance to kill him so you didn't sprint off into more npcs. So yeah, you killed a solo rank 1 reaver who had npcs on him, and you lost a 2v1 that really wasnt even close. Not sure why you chose to post it here, just trolling again no doubt. You really need a new hobby, and a life.
I know right I need a life...good one. I guess playing a game 10 hours a week and posting on forums make me a real loser!
I like how defensive you got because your name was mentioned. I know I'm the one who needs to get a life but you seem awfully upset over what someone said here on the forum.
I just posted about it because I had fun. I don't know if you think I'm trying to say I almost won some epic 3v1 and you suck and I'm great or what but it is obvious you have some issue here. My post was not at all sarcastic or in jest or anything so I really hope you just misunderstood me and you aren't just this bitter.
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You mean the r1 reaver that was fighting hobbits and at half health? Yeah, good job killing him, that must've made you feel like you weren't completely worthless. If wertes and I were grouped you wouldn't have gotten close to taking him down. Only reason I didn't bubble him sooner was to keep you thinking you had a chance to kill him so you didn't sprint off into more npcs. So yeah, you killed a solo rank 1 reaver who had npcs on him, and you lost a 2v1 that really wasnt even close. Not sure why you chose to post it here, just trolling again no doubt. You really need a new hobby, and a life.
He trolled you alright! We now all know that you almost lost to a fail champ with moria gear in a 3v1. Get over it.
But srs, work on not caring what people think of you (especially in a video game) and start having fun.
Keep up the A+ trolling slin!
|| Slashed - R7 Reaver || Taluck - OP hobbit tank || Ridnerlaf - R2 Blackarrow ||
C'mon, give me a break with that fail gear ####. Some of you make a point to say that with every other breath as an excuse when you lose, you're so worried about people thinking you're bad or something. I've looked at his gear, and at least 3/6 pvp gear is not bad. Plus he stacks power on his jewelry, which is smart imo. Besides, it's not like it's the gear that gives you your bubble, self-heals, sprint, remorseless strikes, brutal strikes, slows, stuns, did I miss anything?
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I know right I need a life...good one. I guess playing a game 10 hours a week and posting on forums make me a real loser!
I like how defensive you got because your name was mentioned. I know I'm the one who needs to get a life but you seem awfully upset over what someone said here on the forum.
I just posted about it because I had fun. I don't know if you think I'm trying to say I almost won some epic 3v1 and you suck and I'm great or what but it is obvious you have some issue here. My post was not at all sarcastic or in jest or anything so I really hope you just misunderstood me and you aren't just this bitter.
What makes you a real loser is putting up screenshots of toons of people you don't even know, and trying to publicly embarrass them.
C'mon, give me a break with that fail gear ####. Some of you make a point to say that with every other breath as an excuse when you lose, you're so worried about people thinking you're bad or something. I've looked at his gear, and at least 3/6 pvp gear is not bad. Plus he stacks power on his jewelry, which is smart imo. Besides, it's not like it's the gear that gives you your bubble, self-heals, sprint, remorseless strikes, brutal strikes, slows, stuns, did I miss anything?
True, gear does not effect what skills you have... it enhances the skills you have, in his case what he lacks is dps from might gear, as he traits for dps in the moors (decked out he should have close to 2k might, he's sitting at 1k currently)... he has no audacity gear yet, so he's squishy on top of having little survivability traited red line. If he was decked out for his dps build he'd have 6 pieces of the audacity set + ~1800 might... he'd lose more morale and power, but would gain the equivalent of +35% dps and 30% mits. To put it into perspective... if I hit him with RS in the moors with my gear currently, he'd get hit for ~6k... if he hit me with his current gear... he might get lucky with a ~4k hit. Lastly, keep in mind, fervour champs /= glory champs... require different traits/gear.
...and lastly, he is bad, Dumbledor says so himself!
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What makes you a real loser is putting up screenshots of toons of people you don't even know, and trying to publicly embarrass them.
hahahaha ok so is this what you are really upset about? Well that is to bad...
It isn't like I'm posting a SS of someone to say they are just awful because they lost a fight. I said what I said because in all honestly it was a bit upsetting they ran away and took those points that I thought I had earned and I can't stand to see people play like that. It isn't like I'm calling out this specific person because I have no idea who they are and anyone who runs like this I'll be calling out (and I expect people to do the same to me). It was posted because the way they ran away they were deserving of said "public embarrassment".
Obviously there must be something going on I don't know about so I'll stop while I'm ahead here. I have nothing against this reaver except for how they run away from a fight like that.
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True, gear does not effect what skills you have... it enhances the skills you have, in his case what he lacks is dps from might gear, as he traits for dps in the moors (decked out he should have close to 2k might, he's sitting at 1k currently)... he has no audacity gear yet, so he's squishy on top of having little survivability traited red line. If he was decked out for his dps build he'd have 6 pieces of the audacity set + ~1800 might... he'd lose more morale and power, but would gain the equivalent of +35% dps and 30% mits. To put it into perspective... if I hit him with RS in the moors with my gear currently, he'd get hit for ~6k... if he hit me with his current gear... he might get lucky with a ~4k hit. Lastly, keep in mind, fervour champs /= glory champs... require different traits/gear.
...and lastly, he is bad, Dumbledor says so himself!
You don't have to be maxed out to have success. Saying a champ is squishy and has little survivability just because he doesn't have 2k might is incorrrect. Relative to end-game raid geared champs, yes. But due to bubbles, self-heals, and sprint; well just ask any hunter if they think a champ is squishy and has little survivability.
You don't have to be maxed out to have success. Saying a champ is squishy and has little survivability just because he doesn't have 2k might is incorrrect. Relative to end-game raid geared champs, yes. But due to bubbles, self-heals, and sprint; well just ask any hunter if they think a champ is squishy and has little survivability.
TBH when I came out to the moors with my ungeared Champ I dropped like a fly, bubbles or not. Wargs in Shadow or Flayer ate me in less than a minute. It became so bad I HAD to retrait Glory. It wasn't terribly much of a survival change but it sure did help me. When I finally geared right, I had a little over 1k might, and somewhere near 900 vit. 9K morale, 50% tact mits(As opposed to my 7k morale and 28-30% tact mits I had before) and I lived a LOT longer. I noticed a big change in survival. DPS was 600 might lower but that really didn't matter to me because I lived so much longer. Eventually I will get my might back and trait Fervour, but I'll try to do so without losing as much morale and mits like last time. (So apparently I'll mix the Blue Audacity set with the Red)
EDIT: By ungeared I mean full Draigoch set. It was terrible for survival.
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TBH when I came out to the moors with my ungeared Champ I dropped like a fly, bubbles or not. Wargs in Shadow or Flayer ate me in less than a minute. It became so bad I HAD to retrait Glory. It wasn't terribly much of a survival change but it sure did help me. When I finally geared right, I had a little over 1k might, and somewhere near 900 vit. 9K morale, 50% tact mits(As opposed to my 7k morale and 28-30% tact mits I had before) and I lived a LOT longer. I noticed a big change in survival. DPS was 600 might lower but that really didn't matter to me because I lived so much longer. Eventually I will get my might back and trait Fervour, but I'll try to do so without losing as much morale and mits like last time. (So apparently I'll mix the Blue Audacity set with the Red)
EDIT: By ungeared I mean full Draigoch set. It was terrible for survival.
So you're basically agreeing with me then, as the champ we're talking about has over 1.1k might and about 9k morale. I agree with you, that's just fine for the moors.
So you're basically agreeing with me then, as the champ we're talking about has over 1.1k might and about 9k morale. I agree with you, that's just fine for the moors.
In the same regard a r5 creep with r1 audacity is just fine for the moors... sure you can play with r1 audacity, but you're still at a disadvantage against those with r7 audacity... it's very noticeable.
In regards to the hunter comparison... given the update with improved fleetness + Focus pot + PS spam + ToO F Set + 40m range on dps skills that are only effected by b/e (miss is negligible due to the inherit benefit of stacking agility + capped crit)... it would be minstrel OP to give them a bubble lol... a champ would have to be in melee range for 10s to output similar burst dps they can do in 5s, with less morale and crit and the chance to have his/her attacks be b/p/e missed/resisted... champs give up b/p/e for dps... they give up bubble spam/morale/mits for dps apples and oranges, imo. Anyway, this getting OT and in truth reavers have it much worse.
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1k morale over the average champ
700 less armor value
350 less might
2k less critical chance
1.5k less finesse
1.5k less resistance
600 more crit defense
1.5k less physical defense
(Everything else is irrelevant or about even).
Not have 2k might may not make me squishy but all that certainly contribute. Also Keep in mind I haven't ranked audacity at all.
I think you need to read turines post again. No where did he say not having 2k might would make me squishy. He said that was because of the audacity and mits.
A hunter is also going tell you a minstrel, guard, warden, LM, reaver, BA, WL, Defiler aren't squishy. Bubble, sprint, etc... are all skills. I don't really see how this discussion has anything to do with them. If we were talking about champs being squishy in general compared to other classes it would be relevant.
You don't have to have max gear to be successful. In the past I typically have geared toward PvP and have had far above average gear most of the time. Now I'm well below average to the average lvl 75 champ. That isn't even comparing to a champ who PvP's or even raids (I assume that is including ones who even just hit 75).
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1k morale over the average champ
700 less armor value
350 less might
2k less critical chance
1.5k less finesse
1.5k less resistance
600 more crit defense
1.5k less physical defense
(Everything else is irrelevant or about even).
What about Tactical Mitigation? I thought Fire, Shadow, and Fire creep damages were all reduced because of Tactical mits.
In the same regard a r5 creep with r1 audacity is just fine for the moors... sure you can play with r1 audacity, but you're still at a disadvantage against those with r7 audacity... it's very noticeable.
In regards to the hunter comparison... given the update with improved fleetness + Focus pot + PS spam + ToO F Set + 40m range on dps skills that are only effected by b/e (miss is negligible due to the inherit benefit of stacking agility + capped crit)... it would be minstrel OP to give them a bubble lol... a champ would have to be in melee range for 10s to output similar burst dps they can do in 5s, with less morale and crit and the chance to have his/her attacks be b/p/e missed/resisted... champs give up b/p/e for dps... they give up bubble spam/morale/mits for dps apples and oranges, imo. Anyway, this getting OT and in truth reavers have it much worse.
Ummm... Uhhh.... Derrrr......lol are u fryeeeking serious. It isn't that involved, is it guys?
In the same regard a r5 creep with r1 audacity is just fine for the moors... sure you can play with r1 audacity, but you're still at a disadvantage against those with r7 audacity... it's very noticeable.
I agree that a R5 creep is in a good spot in the moors, if and only if they have bought their strongest class skills in the lotro store. This is a very important distinction that must be made. Otherwise, no. Rank 5 does not give you the tools necessary to be on par with even the most ungeared freeps (given equal player skill). Class skills are a much more important factor when determining viability than audacity. To compare a rank 5 reaver without store bought skills to Slins champ "in the same regard" is completely ridiculous.
I think a distinction must be made about this. No rank 5 reaver will have the same skill at their class as a lvl 75 champ, simply because that champ spent weeks/months leveling their toon and getting to know their skill.
Unless that reaver has a reaver on another server, the reaver will be less experienced in his/her class.
That hobbit you just called fat? He's skipping 2nd breakfast.
The dwarf woman you called ugly? She spends hours braiding her beard so you can differentiate her from a dwarf man.
The Uruk-Hai you just killed? he's been abused by Saruman.
See that Gollum creature with the gangly limb and large eyes? For 500 years the ring poisoned his mind.
That elf you just made fun of for crying? She just lost her wizard friend to a Balrog.
Put this as your signature if you're against bullying in Middle-earth!
I think a distinction must be made about this. No rank 5 reaver will have the same skill at their class as a lvl 75 champ, simply because that champ spent weeks/months leveling their toon and getting to know their skill.
Unless that reaver has a reaver on another server, the reaver will be less experienced in his/her class.
Honestly, given the limited number of skills a reaver has in comparison to a champ, you can become an expert much quicker on the reaver. If you already have a lot of experience in the game, and you are very good with movement and turning, you can pick up reaver very quickly. And if you buy the best skills in the store, you can become a force to be reckoned with, even at low ranks. If you are brand new to the game and/or mmo's, obviously your learning curve will be different.
Honestly, given the limited number of skills a reaver has in comparison to a champ, you can become an expert much quicker on the reaver. If you already have a lot of experience in the game, and you are very good with movement and turning, you can pick up reaver very quickly. And if you buy the best skills in the store, you can become a force to be reckoned with, even at low ranks. If you are brand new to the game and/or mmo's, obviously your learning curve will be different.
So Figs, roll a reaver already!
Except the small little fact that any freep class played reasonably well enough can beat any reaver. There is no denying the fact that any freep class is capable of being a one man army, it would be ######## to even argue on this notion. As it stands, our very diligent devs forgot to consider healing while putting audacity in place(or it might be WAI.. you just never know with these people). So sure the incoming dmg is reduced by 30% dmg but it has become even more easier to out heal the incoming dmg as the heals havent been scaled accordingly. Basically any class that has any kind of heals has advantage over its opponent(especially in a 1v1). I quite honestly havent leveled a champ beyond lvl 35, but as far as i can remember i did have a bracing attack heal(which had a reasonably short cd), there was dire need and hell there might be more. Recently i had a champ go from about 2k morale to about 7.5k morale in a 1v1(i dont know if it was a crit or thats normal), but ya with all the mitigations, heals and bubbles champs have... and ofcourse the recent nerf to our only wtfpwn skill thrash(and the only self heal we have that doesnt involve a lucky crit is ATO which is only a 1.8k-2k heal with a 10 min cd...LOLZ what a joke), it really should be piece of cake killing reavers out there... all you should require is the lvl 75.
I agree that a R5 creep is in a good spot in the moors, if and only if they have bought their strongest class skills in the lotro store. This is a very important distinction that must be made. Otherwise, no. Rank 5 does not give you the tools necessary to be on par with even the most ungeared freeps (given equal player skill). Class skills are a much more important factor when determining viability than audacity. To compare a rank 5 reaver without store bought skills to Slins champ "in the same regard" is completely ridiculous.
Rank 6 Reaver with store bought skills and I can ALMOST beat one of the best 1v1 champs (IMO) on Riddermarks if he's traited Red. Of course I still have one audacity and he has 7. (We were about 50/50 prior to U6, and no he doesn't use bubbles)
Over here on Vilya, my r7 reaver with one store bought skill (Thrash) and 2 audacity bodes pretty well. My R5 warg with 1 Audacity kicks some butt, but that's only because my experience with Warg. He has Flayer, and Eye Rake. IIRC those are his only two store bought skills. I don't have anything else on him store bought. Then again, for Shadow I already have all the skills I need for max dps anyway. (My rotation is Pounce, Sudden Maul, Rend Flesh, Eye Rake, Claws, Rend or Sudden Maul again. I can do this is in one stun unless someone has high Audacity. Even on someone with 7 Audacity I believe I can still get off most of those skills)
Originally Posted by crawman
Except the small little fact that any freep class played reasonably well enough can beat any reaver. There is no denying the fact that any freep class is capable of being a one man army, it would be ######## to even argue on this notion. As it stands, our very diligent devs forgot to consider healing while putting audacity in place(or it might be WAI.. you just never know with these people). So sure the incoming dmg is reduced by 30% dmg but it has become even more easier to out heal the incoming dmg as the heals havent been scaled accordingly. Basically any class that has any kind of heals has advantage over its opponent(especially in a 1v1). I quite honestly havent leveled a champ beyond lvl 35, but as far as i can remember i did have a bracing attack heal(which had a reasonably short cd), there was dire need and hell there might be more. Recently i had a champ go from about 2k morale to about 7.5k morale in a 1v1(i dont know if it was a crit or thats normal), but ya with all the mitigations, heals and bubbles champs have... and ofcourse the recent nerf to our only wtfpwn skill thrash(and the only self heal we have that doesnt involve a lucky crit is ATO which is only a 1.8k-2k heal with a 10 min cd...LOLZ what a joke), it really should be piece of cake killing reavers out there... all you should require is the lvl 75.
The way the moors is now... I'm not gunna lie heals are a little OP. On BR I have a burg with 1500 Agility. (She was at 1300 when I fought the Defiler I'm gunna mention) I did pretty well starting off, but I ws getting a little frustrated 3 mins into the fight. I started screwing up, didn't use Fient Attack AT ALL (Could have gotten off about 5 of those in that fight) and I ended up losing while doing 99k damage to one Defiler. When I got him to 2k the first time I should have hit Fient, Aim, stun, get behind him quickly and ended the fight there. It was my mistake. Point being I did 99k he did 22k, there's something wrong. Yes Addle was on him 24/7, and Audacity made fear useless almost. He couldn't get off any inductions...I lost because he outskilled me and was able to beat me despite me hammering on him 24/7. The second fight he decimated me though... I should've started with Addle but the guy got off Blights, gourds, and oh man it was bad. I dropped in 2 minutes or less. Then the Spider came in and wrecked my face.
Of course the next thing I'm about to say compares two different classes. On my r5 A1(Audacity R1) warg I fought Swordmonkey's Minstrel...keep in mind for some of you, this is why Swordmonkey said what he did on VU. He beat me the first time, I disappeared out the second time but a BA came to attack him, the third time I disappeared as well to regen my morale, a warg jumped him so I helped. This of course made him really angry, but we don't have to get into that. The fourth time I ended up doing 21k damage to him and still lost. If healing was somehow nerfed I have a feeling either mits or dps of the self healing classes will have to be upgraded...excluding Wardens and Champs. Minstrels right now are losing to skilled and OP Shadow Wargs in 1v1s despite their op healing, but fights are lot longer. Pre RoI warg vs mini used to be mini won if he got crits, warg won if the mini didn't. After RoI it was damn near impossible to beat a Mini. Now after U6 you are doing ridiculous amounts of damage, but can still pull off the win. if healing was nerfed significantly due to Audacity, Minstrels who rely on self heals would be decimated. It'd honestly be better for them to go Pre RoI style and try to get big crits. =p (Or not, depends on how much healing gets nerfed)
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Well Flankrat learn how to play a rank 5 warg with 1 audacity damn so fail! jk.. I fought some rank 8 warg after our fights and im not sure how much audacity he had, but i barely won..was so close that i was making mistakes, but that happens in close fights when it really gets intense. And what minis do you know that dont use their heals in 1v1 since U6? just wonderin cause i feel like id die w/o them atleast until i get more practice. Aaaaaand why is this in the good 1v1 thread? feel like it should be its own thread.
"the third time I disappeared as well to regen my morale, a warg jumped him so I helped. This of course made him really angry, but we don't have to get into that."
Yeah thats real respect for 1v1s.
when im 1v1ing someone and they get attacked by someone else i back off...
What about Tactical Mitigation? I thought Fire, Shadow, and Fire creep damages were all reduced because of Tactical mits.
Slin meant tactical... as it is additive to audacity and not many r4+ creeps run around with common/physical damage... wtb Sarchol and 12k Tactical Mits!
Originally Posted by wertes
Ummm... Uhhh.... Derrrr......lol are u fryeeeking serious. It isn't that involved, is it guys? <IMG class=inlineimg title=Smile border=0 alt="" src="http://images.lorforum.turbine.com/images/smilies/smile.png">
I need to consult the pie chart and trend graphs! Yes I'm sooper srs!
Originally Posted by fooburz
To compare a rank 5 reaver without store bought skills to Slins champ "in the same regard" is completely ridiculous.
I wasn't making that comparison... I was comparing 'like' classes with different gear... my scrub champ v slin's scrub champ... IF slin had my gear he would have ~35% more dps and ~25% mits(and all the other audacity perks) when geared with audacity... and imo... that would make a noticeable difference in the outcome of the 3v1 you guys had earlier... he still would've lost, but it would've taken longer, lulz. I agree with you in regards to class differences, and Turbine's 'half asleep' implementation, especially creepside.
Originally Posted by Super
Except the small little fact that any freep class played reasonably well enough can beat any reaver. There is no denying the fact that any freep class is capable of being a one man army, it would be ######## to even argue on this notion. As it stands, our very diligent devs forgot to consider healing while putting audacity in place(or it might be WAI.. you just never know with these people). So sure the incoming dmg is reduced by 30% dmg but it has become even more easier to out heal the incoming dmg as the heals havent been scaled accordingly. Basically any class that has any kind of heals has advantage over its opponent(especially in a 1v1). I quite honestly havent leveled a champ beyond lvl 35, but as far as i can remember i did have a bracing attack heal(which had a reasonably short cd), there was dire need and hell there might be more. Recently i had a champ go from about 2k morale to about 7.5k morale in a 1v1(i dont know if it was a crit or thats normal), but ya with all the mitigations, heals and bubbles champs have... and ofcourse the recent nerf to our only wtfpwn skill thrash(and the only self heal we have that doesnt involve a lucky crit is ATO which is only a 1.8k-2k heal with a 10 min cd...LOLZ what a joke), it really should be piece of cake killing reavers out there... all you should require is the lvl 75.
I agree heals are a little overkill out there... I believe devs felt creep power drains/blight/improved dev strike would be sufficient in negating that advantage to a degree. In regards to champs, all of our heals (minus dire need) have a chance to crit now (RoI)... and have lower cds in glory with the right traits... also a passive skill called exalted combatant in glory (there's no reference to this skill anywhere in game except on the champ draigoch (dps) set... lol Turbine) that activates when a champ reaches ~20% health threshold and is automatically given a 3k+ heal (1-1.5 min cd and doesn't always work)... champ needs to be 4 deep in the martial line and in glory for it to activate... if a champ is glory traited and busts his spammable bubble, heals, -inc dmg,anti disarm + armor, etc... the reaver and most classes don't stand a chance.
Last edited by Turin_Turambar_The_F; May 10 2012 at 01:36 PM.
Reason: Turbine's forums are screwed up again...
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Well Flankrat learn how to play a rank 5 warg with 1 audacity damn so fail! jk.. I fought some rank 8 warg after our fights and im not sure how much audacity he had, but i barely won..was so close that i was making mistakes, but that happens in close fights when it really gets intense. And what minis do you know that dont use their heals in 1v1 since U6? just wonderin cause i feel like id die w/o them atleast until i get more practice. Aaaaaand why is this in the good 1v1 thread? feel like it should be its own thread.
"the third time I disappeared as well to regen my morale, a warg jumped him so I helped. This of course made him really angry, but we don't have to get into that."
Yeah thats real respect for 1v1s.
when im 1v1ing someone and they get attacked by someone else i back off...
All 'good 1v1' threads get trolled or OT eventually... but to get back on topic, it's always a pleasure 1v1ing you in melee combat sword, /bow.
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I don't feel like leveling a pointless character that won't ever amount to anything besides another cash cow for turbine to milk in order to be competitive.
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That hobbit you just called fat? He's skipping 2nd breakfast.
The dwarf woman you called ugly? She spends hours braiding her beard so you can differentiate her from a dwarf man.
The Uruk-Hai you just killed? he's been abused by Saruman.
See that Gollum creature with the gangly limb and large eyes? For 500 years the ring poisoned his mind.
That elf you just made fun of for crying? She just lost her wizard friend to a Balrog.
Put this as your signature if you're against bullying in Middle-earth!
Smuggo, good 1v1 this morning at 4 am. Sorry i had to flop and df on you. I mean hips and map. You were way to much for me. Sorry about that im a pu$$ what can you say. I mean what can I say. What do you say big man?
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Turine, Thanks again for all the 1v1's tonight. It reminded me of all those times I Wrastled with my older brother whom surely could kick my A$$. Only at the last moment to lie down and let me win. Fun Stuff!
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