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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    I'd suggest some of the names on this thread. Reading back through the posts should provide you with many options. If you want something more specific, look at this link and pick out some words you like. We'll be happy to help you construct names.

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    Someone on the general thread asked how to say "Strong Light". I'd suggest agalad or anaur, which would be the intensive prefix a- + calad (mutates to galad) for strong radience, or an- + aur for strong sunlight.

    For militia, maybe use Barwaith, from Bar (home) + gwaith (host, regiment, people).
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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    So after naming my elf, Linthalon, and having leveled him to 65, I just found out what his name meant: Lin: lake + Thala: Stalwart. So I assume that would be a Stalwart dweller of lakes?

    Linthalon: Level 65 Elf Hunter - Linthryth: Level 59 Woman Champion - Lintharad: Level 37 Elf Guardian

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    Pond Hero would be a reasonable translation for Linthalion. No "dweller" meaning is implied.

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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    Thanks to all that have taken the time to add to my tiny knowledge of Sindarin with this thread.

    I have an Elf character called Habadhond... If I have translated correctly it should be: tall/long shoe/footware i.e boots
    Since she is the Elven persona for my Main character Bootsy I tried to create a similar name.

    This is where I find out I've actually called her "Stench of toe-cheese" isn't it? *grin*

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    How would you put the two words Beleg (strong) and Galad (light) together?

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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    Quote Originally Posted by Linvorn View Post
    How would you put the two words Beleg (strong) and Galad (light) together?
    The simple answer is, you wouldn't. Beleg doesn't mean strong in the sense that you're implying. Agalad (Intense Radience) or Anaur (intense Sunlight) are more accurate ways of saying "Strong Light".

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    I always liked the name Mithmund. Grey Bull I'm almost certain it means. I have yet to try it though.

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    3 Elves.

    Larnadriel, a minstrel

    Eldhros, a rune-keeper

    Golladhril, a warden

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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    Just to double-check, would Maedhren make an acceptable Sindarin name? The random generator suggested it at character creation, and I liked the sound as well as the shout-out to Maedhros. My Sindarin is by no means notable, but I'm guessing it would be maed* plus adjectival suffix, so meaning 'beautiful one' or something of the sort? (And while at it, by what rule does the d- lenite to -dh in the compound? Is that a remant of Old/Northern Sindarin?)

    Thanks.
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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    I named all my Elven characters using LOTRO's random generator and basically have no knowledge of the Elven languages at all, so I'm at a loss to what exactly they mean in Sindarin or any other Elven language.

    They are:

    Mereithor, my Hunter (male)
    Eldradhis, my Champion (female)
    Fandethar, my Guardian (male)
    Gonnellor, my Loremaster (male)

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    Quote Originally Posted by EllisIstarnie View Post
    Just to double-check, would Maedhren make an acceptable Sindarin name? The random generator suggested it at character creation, and I liked the sound as well as the shout-out to Maedhros. My Sindarin is by no means notable, but I'm guessing it would be maed* plus adjectival suffix, so meaning 'beautiful one' or something of the sort? (And while at it, by what rule does the d- lenite to -dh in the compound? Is that a remant of Old/Northern Sindarin?)

    Thanks.
    A d becomes a dh in a compound if it follows a vowel (unchanged after consonants).

    Maed = shapely or handy/skillful

    The etymology of Maedhros is Maed+ros(s) (copper).
    Moving onto the name you found, the closest I can find is Maed + perhaps 'rhenn' which is also glossed as 'rend', which means 'circular'.
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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    My chars name is Jazlindreal..

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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    I'd very much like an appropriate name for my soon to be Elf character. I plan on making a Guardian, so anything meaning something along the lines of Guardian or Sword-bearer or something similar would be great. I never got too much into the language myself, but I would still like to have my Guardian have a Sindarin name. I trust your judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Braxwald View Post
    I'd very much like an appropriate name for my soon to be Elf character. I plan on making a Guardian, so anything meaning something along the lines of Guardian or Sword-bearer or something similar would be great. I never got too much into the language myself, but I would still like to have my Guardian have a Sindarin name. I trust your judgement.
    Well let's have a look...you didn't specify whether your character was going to be male or female btw, so I'll do both...off the top of my head, some ideas are:

    Male:

    Amathon/Amathron = Shieldman
    Criston/Cristron = Swordman
    Langon/Langron = Swordman (more like a cutlass)
    Maethon = Fighter (warrior) - bit more Champion like I suppose
    Thannor/Thandir = Shieldman (yip, two words for shield)

    Female:

    Amathel = Shieldwoman
    Amathwen = Shieldmaiden
    Cristeth = Sword woman
    Cristwen = Sword maiden
    Langeth = Sword woman
    Langwen = Sword maiden
    Maethes/Maithwen = Woman/maiden of battle
    Thannel/Thangwen = Shieldwoman/maiden

    The other option for 'sword' is the older word 'magol', giving you:

    Maglon/Magoldir = Swordsman
    Magleth/Magolwen = Swordswoman

    There are other suffixes, so if you want something like 'son of' 'daughter of' etc, let me know and I could tell you those (saves me writing them *all* out here!)

    Edit:
    I had a look at making a compound name as you mentioned 'bearer' out of the verb 'to wield' - maetha-, but I'm not overly convinced with the results, it seems a little unwieldy to me:

    Swordbearer (Male):
    Cristvaethon/Cristvaethedir or
    Langvaethon/Langvaethedir or
    Maglavaethon/Maglavaethedir - given that names can be 'mutated' in several ways, you could also have this as Maglawaethon or Maglamaethon!
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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    Sorry about not including the gender, he is a male. I say 'is', because I made him, and I ended up going with the name 'Ellomaethor'. It basically means 'Elven Warrior'. Thanks for the contributions, I might use them for another Elf Character.

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    Hey how would the I from a name from Nar (fire) and Cam (hand)? I think these are the right roots but are unsure. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TCyclone18 View Post
    Hey how would the I from a name from Nar (fire) and Cam (hand)? I think these are the right roots but are unsure. Thanks!
    Naur = Fire/Flame, Nâr actually means 'rat'.

    A brief note on forming compounds in Sindarin/making names -
    'au' becomes 'o'
    the 'c' of cam will become a 'g'

    It depends whether they're male or female, but here's some options for both genders anyway.

    Male:
    Norgamon = Fire/flame hand (male person)
    Norgamdir = Fire/flame hand man
    Norgamion = Son of a fire/flame hand

    Female:
    Norgameth = Fire/flame hand (female person)
    Norgamil = Fire/flame hand woman
    Norgamel = Fire/flame hand woman (just another female suffix)
    Norgamwen = Fire/flame hand maiden

    Norgamben = Fire/flame hand person (no gender)

    Names can be put together either way round, so the other way round would be along the lines of:

    Male:

    Camnoron
    Camnordir

    etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xandarien_PoTI View Post
    Naur = Fire/Flame, Nâr actually means 'rat'.

    A brief note on forming compounds in Sindarin/making names -
    'au' becomes 'o'
    the 'c' of cam will become a 'g'


    etc.
    Thanks for clearing that up for me haha. Also thanks for the names!

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    I've got two elves, a hunter and a lore-master. The hunter is "Twitcheetwitch", so clearly I didn't bother with a Tolkien-based name there! However, the lore master is Tarfeanor, and he's a jeweler. I drew on Feanor and the crafting of the Silmarils for some loose thematic inspiration, but that's about it.

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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    This is a remarkable thread. I am impressed by the knowledge so many of you have. Below are my two elven characters and the names I gave them. I tried to come as close as I could to actual name meanings, but may have taken some liberties just to make them sound like names.


    MY ELVEN CHARACTERS


    Wyndelleu Farothomir



    meaning: Blue wind. Hunter of the gem.
    Language: Nandorin
    Alternate names: Hwestelu Farothomir (Sindarin), Hwestaluinë Farothomîrë (Quenyan)
    As a Nandor from Lothlorien, I wanted to make sure all three elven cultures that are influential in that land were represented. I completely made up Wyndelleu as a possible Nandorin name, but was amazed that the Sindarin and Quenyan version (if I got them right) completely coincidentally sounds somewhat similar.



    Rindalagan Tinnufal



    Meaning: Crowned Harper of the Twilight Shores
    Language: Sindarin
    Alternate names: Rinandaro Falundómë (Quenyan)
    As an ancient Sindar minstrel from Linden, Rindaligan has been known by many names, but most men of this age know him simply as Taligan or Taligand (The Harper). I believe the first name is correct, but I may have taken some liberties with the last name.

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    There are approximately 30 known actual Nandorin words (had a search through my various dictionaries and word lists), and unfortunately 'blue' and 'wind' aren't among them. There's pale = lygn and cloud = spenna though.

    I don't speak Quenyan at all (well, I know enough to read it, but I haven't studied it in any greater detail beyond that to be able to translate into it), but I can comment on the Sindarin .

    Hwestelu

    Hwest = more a puff, breeze, breath of air than actual wind. Wind as in 'my gosh it's windy' is gwaew. (Or for a storm of wind it's alagos). Course it all depends what meaning of wind you were looking for anyway!

    Elu = Yip, pale blue.

    Given your character's background (I've read many of your posts), you could have used the word luin, which is the Doriathrin Sindarin word for blue. (Doriathrin Sindarin is the pure Sindarin, the original Sindarin as it were).
    The choice between Elu and Luin for blue in Sindarin ultimately comes down to whether you want the name to have Doriathrin origins, or Exilic-Sindarin origins. (When the Noldor came back from Valinor and were forced to adopt Sindarin after Quenyan was banned by Thingol, the language altered from its pure origins as it absorbed Quenyan influences, and became Exilic Sindarin).

    Farathomir

    The name Faramir itself means 'jewelled hunter' (probably, there is some debate on the subject), from Fara- (Faron) to hunt, and mir = jewel, so obviously you want a name that isn't identical to that!
    This name seems to come from the word Faroth (a group of hunters, with negative connotations due to the -hoth suffix, it means a group of, but it's used on things like glamhoth = noisy horde (orcs)).
    Incidentally 'of the' = en. As a sentence it would come out as Faron e-mîr. Struggling a bit with this one trying to compound it in my head without it coming out as Faramir tbh! (Though names can always be flipped round and retain the same meaning, so you could have Mîrfaron).

    Rindalagan

    Yip, definitely Crowned harper, it's even mutated properly!

    Tinnufal

    Tinnu = dusk, twilight but fal...I'm guessing you went for falas = wave beaten shore? There's no reason you couldn't have compounded those words as a name as Tinnufalas, it has the exact meaning you were after.
    There are two other words for shore as well, which are esgar and faur.
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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    Quote Originally Posted by Twitcheetwitch View Post
    I've got two elves, a hunter and a lore-master. The hunter is "Twitcheetwitch", so clearly I didn't bother with a Tolkien-based name there! However, the lore master is Tarfeanor, and he's a jeweler. I drew on Feanor and the crafting of the Silmarils for some loose thematic inspiration, but that's about it.
    Feanor itself means 'spirit of fire'. With the Tar- added to it, it makes it look vaguely Adunaic! (The rules of Numenor added the royal prefix Tar- to their names, for example Tar-Amandil, the third King of Numenor). Which would make your name Royal Spirit of Fire or King Spirit of Fire.

    (When it comes to Sindarin the word stem tar- became the adjective tara = tough, stiff, so you could have your name mean 'Tough/Stiff spirit of fire' too).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xandarien_PoTI View Post
    Feanor itself means 'spirit of fire'. With the Tar- added to it, it makes it look vaguely Adunaic! (The rules of Numenor added the royal prefix Tar- to their names, for example Tar-Amandil, the third King of Numenor). Which would make your name Royal Spirit of Fire or King Spirit of Fire.

    (When it comes to Sindarin the word stem tar- became the adjective tara = tough, stiff, so you could have your name mean 'Tough/Stiff spirit of fire' too).
    I had the first option in mind when I created him (hence he has a circlet on his brow), but I like the second option quite a bit too. Thanks for pointing that out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xandarien_PoTI View Post
    There are approximately 30 known actual Nandorin words (had a search through my various dictionaries and word lists), and unfortunately 'blue' and 'wind' aren't among them. There's pale = lygn and cloud = spenna though.

    I don't speak Quenyan at all (well, I know enough to read it, but I haven't studied it in any greater detail beyond that to be able to translate into it), but I can comment on the Sindarin .

    Hwestelu

    Hwest = more a puff, breeze, breath of air than actual wind. Wind as in 'my gosh it's windy' is gwaew. (Or for a storm of wind it's alagos). Course it all depends what meaning of wind you were looking for anyway!

    Elu = Yip, pale blue.

    Given your character's background (I've read many of your posts), you could have used the word luin, which is the Doriathrin Sindarin word for blue. (Doriathrin Sindarin is the pure Sindarin, the original Sindarin as it were).
    The choice between Elu and Luin for blue in Sindarin ultimately comes down to whether you want the name to have Doriathrin origins, or Exilic-Sindarin origins. (When the Noldor came back from Valinor and were forced to adopt Sindarin after Quenyan was banned by Thingol, the language altered from its pure origins as it absorbed Quenyan influences, and became Exilic Sindarin).

    Farathomir

    The name Faramir itself means 'jewelled hunter' (probably, there is some debate on the subject), from Fara- (Faron) to hunt, and mir = jewel, so obviously you want a name that isn't identical to that!
    This name seems to come from the word Faroth (a group of hunters, with negative connotations due to the -hoth suffix, it means a group of, but it's used on things like glamhoth = noisy horde (orcs)).
    Incidentally 'of the' = en. As a sentence it would come out as Faron e-mîr. Struggling a bit with this one trying to compound it in my head without it coming out as Faramir tbh! (Though names can always be flipped round and retain the same meaning, so you could have Mîrfaron).

    Rindalagan

    Yip, definitely Crowned harper, it's even mutated properly!

    Tinnufal

    Tinnu = dusk, twilight but fal...I'm guessing you went for falas = wave beaten shore? There's no reason you couldn't have compounded those words as a name as Tinnufalas, it has the exact meaning you were after.
    There are two other words for shore as well, which are esgar and faur.

    Thanks for the info. I'm glad I at least got close on these two. I am particularly happy that I mutated Rindalagan properly (even if I bastardized the last name lol). You're right about Tinnufal, of course. I totally shortened that simply because I thought if flowed better.

    I'm very happy to learn how to say "of the" properly. I'll have to use that.

    Hwestelu, completely by coincidence seemed to be pretty close to my totally made up Wyndelleu which I just pretended was Nandorin in origin. I am happy to see it makes a little sense. Farothomir was definitely an attempt to get a similar meaning without using the well-known Faramir name. Kind of a bummer it's got a negative connotation, but I'll just have to come up with a reason for that. Better to know and use it as a hook than to be ignorant of it I guess.

    Anyway, thanks for taking the time.

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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    I know some Sindarin and Quenya words, such as:

    Cara-red
    Luin-blue
    Hir-lord
    hareth-Lady
    curu-skilled
    ung-spider
    dined-silent
    las-leaf
    lego-green
    gorn-tree
    galadr-light
    celeb-silver
    mith-grey
    ril-gleam
    ear-sea
    mir-jewel
    fir-mortal

    When I started playing LotRO, I really could've cared less what their names meant, such as my first elves, Alhanaa and Maquesta. I soon realized that their names should have meanings. So, when I made the move to Landroval, I made and elf and named her Curuiel(skilled woman) Lomelin(dusk song). I'm glad I did that. I love sending random tells to people, like this:

    Curuiel: Do you know what your name means?
    Carahir: No
    Curuiel: Oh, it means red lord.
    Carahir: Coooooool. It was just a randomized name.


    I tend to annoy people by bugging them about their completely non-elven name. Like a role-playing elf named Door. Door...seriously? DOOR. Jeez.



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    Knock Knock

    Who's there?

    Door.

    Door who?

    ...

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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    I just got a free horse by doing the festival postman quest thing--totally blew me away on that one!--and would like to give it a Sindarin name, to go with the background of my character.

    The horse's standard name when I got it was "lonesome glory"

    I have A Gateway to Sindarin that I use as a dictionary, but I have no background at all about speaking Sindarin or how to form phrases correctly, so would someone mind telling me the proper Sindarin for a name that means lonely glory? (seeing that I couldn't find a word for lonesome, but figure lonely is close enough)

    According to the dictionary I have, "lonely" = "ereb" and "glory" is "algar" or "claur" (probably more likely, claur, right?)

    thank you!

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    I am planning to name my elf either Orthored or Alorthornen (depending on which one is taken).


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    Quote Originally Posted by AllySanders View Post
    I just got a free horse by doing the festival postman quest thing--totally blew me away on that one!--and would like to give it a Sindarin name, to go with the background of my character.

    The horse's standard name when I got it was "lonesome glory"

    I have A Gateway to Sindarin that I use as a dictionary, but I have no background at all about speaking Sindarin or how to form phrases correctly, so would someone mind telling me the proper Sindarin for a name that means lonely glory? (seeing that I couldn't find a word for lonesome, but figure lonely is close enough)

    According to the dictionary I have, "lonely" = "ereb" and "glory" is "algar" or "claur" (probably more likely, claur, right?)

    thank you!
    A Gateway to Sindarin is a good starting point for learning Sindarin (it's where I started pretty much originally), however as a dictionary it's about 7 years out of date. Although this one is now also out of date a wee bit, it's still an excellent resource
    http://www.jrrvf.com/hisweloke/sinda...ict-sd-en.html


    Okay, onto the name of the horse!
    Ereb = Yip it means lonely, isolated
    You also have Erui = Alone, single and the prefix Er- = alone, one, but I think Erui would be more appropriate.
    Aglar would be the more normal word, Claur is glossed as 'poetical', so as it's a name and not a piece of text it's really down to personal preference.

    Clorereb
    Ereblor
    Erebaglar
    Aglarereb

    Making compounds like this have a lot of different rules based off mutations, but the only thing to be aware of in this case is that an 'au' in a word becomes an 'o' in a compound. I've put them all both ways round as names can be put together either way (whichever sounds nicest to you basically). (Oh and the 'c' of claur becomes a 'g' due to mutation and then does a disappearing act in the second one).

    Edit - Changed Erebglor to Ereblor as it was niggling me there was something wrong with it!
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    I am planning to name my elf either Orthored or Alorthornen (depending on which one is taken).
    Can I ask what you meant these names to mean? When I look at the first one I see 'To raise mountain' and the second one possibly 'Not raising tree water' or 'Not raising eagle water' (Al- Doriathrin negative suffix, Orth- verb to raise, and then either Orn = tree, nen = water or thoron = eagle and nen = water).
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    Question Re: Naming Your Elf

    Just cause I am curious,

    Aelinmir = Lake Jewel

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    Re: Naming Your Elf

    Aelin is the plural of ael, so Aelinmir actually says 'Lakes jewel' Also there's no suffix on the end, so it's 'gender non-specific', if you want to make it female you could have:

    Aelwíreth = Lake jewel (female suffix)
    Aelwírel = Lake jewel (2nd female suffix)
    Aelwíril = Lake jewel (3rd female suffix)
    Aelwírdes = Lake jewel (young woman)

    or possibly

    Aelwírneth = Lake jewel (young woman not yet an adult)

    The m becomes an w as it is following a word that ends in an l.

    Names are a lot freer with their mutations than anything else, so the other option is to make mîr into vîr and have Aelvíreth etc.
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    Name question

    I am wanting a Sindarin name that sounds similar to the English name "Christopher". The closest I could get was using the Sindarin terms "Crist" and "Far". My question is, what would be the proper combination of these two terms? Is Cristfar correct?

    Another question is on creating a name that means "first son". Is Vinuion a correct way to do this?

    A third question I have is in trying to get a Sindarin name that sounds similiar to Alexandria. The closest I could get here was using the terms "Aelin" and "tiria" Is "Aelintiria" a correct combination for these two terms, and exactly what could I say the meaning was (assuming my sources are correct in that Aelin is plural for lake or pool and Tiria is a verb meaning watch, gaze, or look toward?)

    Finally, I wanted a kinship named "the company of the seven", with the seven being a group of men. Would "Gwaith Odogath" be correct?


    Thanks alot! I've got the Gateway to Sindarin book, but I'm afraid all the technical wording that goes along with learning the language (terms like asperated, permutations, etc) set my head to spinning and makes little sense to me, and I haven't learned the ins and outs of the Sindarin language to know how to properly construct words and phrases myself. What can I say? I'm a math major, not a linguist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllySanders View Post
    I am wanting a Sindarin name that sounds similar to the English name "Christopher". The closest I could get was using the Sindarin terms "Crist" and "Far". My question is, what would be the proper combination of these two terms? Is Cristfar correct?

    Another question is on creating a name that means "first son". Is Vinuion a correct way to do this?

    A third question I have is in trying to get a Sindarin name that sounds similiar to Alexandria. The closest I could get here was using the terms "Aelin" and "tiria" Is "Aelintiria" a correct combination for these two terms, and exactly what could I say the meaning was (assuming my sources are correct in that Aelin is plural for lake or pool and Tiria is a verb meaning watch, gaze, or look toward?)

    Finally, I wanted a kinship named "the company of the seven", with the seven being a group of men. Would "Gwaith Odogath" be correct?


    Thanks alot! I've got the Gateway to Sindarin book, but I'm afraid all the technical wording that goes along with learning the language (terms like asperated, permutations, etc) set my head to spinning and makes little sense to me, and I haven't learned the ins and outs of the Sindarin language to know how to properly construct words and phrases myself. What can I say? I'm a math major, not a linguist!
    Okay...in order!

    1) I've been asked to 'Sindarinise' some modern names before; as long as you're aware it will essentially be nonsense and won't mean anything, it'll just look vaguely 'Elven'?

    The Quenyan for Christ is Hristo, which taken back into Sindarin is Rhiston or Rhist, but I think a different tack might be better tbh, I'll just do the name as a whole rather than its constituent parts, and just do the sound, which would come out as:

    Cristofur

    i = this is the problem. An i in Sindarin is an ee, so it'll be pronounced differently.
    ur = this is the diphthong in 'four', but the 'er' of Christopher doesn't exist in Sindarin, so it's as close as you're going to get.

    If you want the meaning of Christopher translated into Sindarin and turned into a name it would come out as:
    Rhissgyll = literally, 'Bearer of Christ'. (Rhist+cyll, the -st becomes an -ss before a c).

    2) First son.

    Minui+ion = Minuion (remove the repeated vowel). Don't need to mutate the first letter of the first element in a name.

    3) I'd prefer to use the gerund of the verb, tiriad = watching. Tiria- is either an incomplete form, or the third person present = he/she/it watches. Sindarin also uses the gerund to mean the noun.
    Yes, aelin = pools, so we have:

    Aelindiriad = (t- becomes a d-)

    4) To me, 'Gwaith odogath' reads as 'All of the seven peoples', -ath makes it 'all of the', so 'all of the seven(s)'.

    Company of the seven = Gwaith-en-odog
    Gwaith = People
    en = of the
    odog = seven
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    Unfortunately (or not - all things considered), I named my elves many years ago and didn't have any thought on the meaning of the names.
    I am however curious as to any possible meaning to them.
    If some expert would like to indulge me, I would appreciate.

    Names of my elves:
    Lucanthanas
    Hendalin
    Lorinor
    Lenwin (named Lenwing in LOTRO because Lenwin was taken - supposedly)
    Tenyth

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucanthanas View Post
    Unfortunately (or not - all things considered), I named my elves many years ago and didn't have any thought on the meaning of the names.
    I am however curious as to any possible meaning to them.
    If some expert would like to indulge me, I would appreciate.

    Names of my elves:
    Lucanthanas
    Hendalin
    Lorinor
    Lenwin (named Lenwing in LOTRO because Lenwin was taken - supposedly)
    Tenyth

    Thank you.
    Lucanthanas:

    Well there's Lucando = debtor, one who trespasses in Quenya, or looking at Sindarin - Lû = time, can = could be 'bold' or the number four in a compound, and thanas is almost thannas, which means truth.

    Hendalin:

    Hên = child or hen = eye
    tâl = foot or talan = tree-house (stretching it a bit here)

    Lorinor:

    -or = genderless name suffix, 'doer'
    There's lor- = 'to slumber' in Quenya (would be mixing the languages though) or perhaps at a push lorn = quiet water in Sindarin.

    Lenwin:

    Lenn became Lend = journey (not Lend(2) = sweet) and the second element could be -
    Gwîn = either 'wine, grapevine' or the plural of 'new' (the 'g' disappears with lenition).
    This is actually the name closest to some form of Elvish so far

    Tenyth:

    Not really a lot I can do with this one, ten in Sindarin is an object pronoun, or in Quenya it could be 'to hear' or 'to go as far as', or again, a pronoun.
    Nyth or yth would look like it would want to be a plural of noth or oth. Noth exists as part of words meaning 'family', and that's about it I'm afraid!
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    Hi. I created my first elf almost 5 years ago and named her Whisperwolf. I don't think there is anything elvish about this LM's name. My second was Terebinth the elf hunter. I named him that because it is a tree. Once again, I doubt it is elvish.
    Third was Tinuweth, created from the random Sindarin syllables in the character creation page. Don't know if its elvish, but I liked the name. She is a rk.

    If anyone can squeak elvish meanings from those names, I would be glad.

    Polara-Guardian, Tinuweth-Runekeeper, Terebinth-Hunter, Brokenangel-Champion, Nyghtwind-Burglar, Sharptuth-Warg

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    Thank you for the reply!

    The Council of Elrond http://www.councilofelrond.com/ has a really good name list converting modern names into Sindarin (though I liked the list a whole lot better before they updated; it was so much easier to search!)


    But what I'm trying to do is get something close to the sound of the name, and not necessarily the actual name or its actual meaning. Which was why I was using Crist and Far to try to make "Christopher". What I'm not sure about is if Cristfar would be a correct combination. I know that "Crist" means sword or cleaver, and "Far" means sufficient, so I was assuming the combination could be taken to mean "sufficient sword" or "sword sufficient". I was just wondering how you could combine those two words to form a name, and if I could get away with Cristfar instead of Farcrist

    As for Aelintiria, I struggle with combining nouns and adjectives, and now Tolkien throws a verb in there! So I wasn't sure if you could combine those two words like that.

    Hisweloke's dictionary (as referenced in an earlier reply) says vin is a soft mutation of min, which means first. When would vin be used?

    And thanks for the information for the kinship name! I like what you came up with better, except my roommate jumped the gun on me and already formed it and named it Gwaith Ogodath! I'm giving serious thought to disbanding it and starting over, though

    Thanks again!

    At least the other names in this little fraternity of the seven aren't Sindarin--though that's even worse, because I have to come up with 2 that are Old English that sounds like Nathan and Josiah and a Middle English one that sounds like JD! I think I've gotten fairly close on them--enough to satisfy myself, anyway.

    The last 2 members of this little group come from south Gondor around Dol Amroth, and knowing that Anduniac names are still prevalent down there (Imrahil and Azrahil being two), I cheated and used Anduniac names for them


    Of course, when it comes to names, the rules don't always seem to apply--I've looked at enough baby names meaning books to know that! Its amazing how many different ways you can spell something! It's almost like our ancestors just made something up and then made up a meaning for it.......

    So keeping that in mind, perhaps even if Aelintiria wouldn't be the proper way to combine those words, since I'm using it for a name, I suppose it could still be possible as a name with a general idea of meaning "gazing pool".....



    Thanks again!
    Quote Originally Posted by Xandarien_PoTI View Post
    Okay...in order!

    1) I've been asked to 'Sindarinise' some modern names before; as long as you're aware it will essentially be nonsense and won't mean anything, it'll just look vaguely 'Elven'?

    The Quenyan for Christ is Hristo, which taken back into Sindarin is Rhiston or Rhist, but I think a different tack might be better tbh, I'll just do the name as a whole rather than its constituent parts, and just do the sound, which would come out as:

    Cristofur

    i = this is the problem. An i in Sindarin is an ee, so it'll be pronounced differently.
    ur = this is the diphthong in 'four', but the 'er' of Christopher doesn't exist in Sindarin, so it's as close as you're going to get.

    If you want the meaning of Christopher translated into Sindarin and turned into a name it would come out as:
    Rhissgyll = literally, 'Bearer of Christ'. (Rhist+cyll, the -st becomes an -ss before a c).

    2) First son.

    Minui+ion = Minuion (remove the repeated vowel). Don't need to mutate the first letter of the first element in a name.

    3) I'd prefer to use the gerund of the verb, tiriad = watching. Tiria- is either an incomplete form, or the third person present = he/she/it watches. Sindarin also uses the gerund to mean the noun.
    Yes, aelin = pools, so we have:

    Aelindiriad = (t- becomes a d-)

    4) To me, 'Gwaith odogath' reads as 'All of the seven peoples', -ath makes it 'all of the', so 'all of the seven(s)'.

    Company of the seven = Gwaith-en-odog
    Gwaith = People
    en = of the
    odog = seven
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brodrick View Post
    Hi. I created my first elf almost 5 years ago and named her Whisperwolf. I don't think there is anything elvish about this LM's name. My second was Terebinth the elf hunter. I named him that because it is a tree. Once again, I doubt it is elvish.
    Third was Tinuweth, created from the random Sindarin syllables in the character creation page. Don't know if its elvish, but I liked the name. She is a rk.

    If anyone can squeak elvish meanings from those names, I would be glad.
    Tinu = Spark or a small star
    -weth could come from Gweth = (incorrect/irregular) plural of Gwath = Shadow
    Or simply -eth, the female suffix, put together to sound nice, which would make a nice name actually.
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