Thread: FREEPS WANTED for Elendilmir PvMP

Give me 25$ and i will!!!!

I'm sure there are more than enough L65 freeps on all the servers... the real question is how to get them into the moors.

Originally Posted by CandiceAurora

Plenty of things we can blame, or provide as "temporary" solutions, but in reality I think they're not really solutions at all!

How is a temporary solution a bad thing? That's exactly the point. When creeps recognize that they should probably be playing freep when freeps are completely outnumbered, it's simply a responsible and mature thing to do. When freeps had creeps outnumbered and buttoned up in TA yesterday, I logged off. Temporary solution, personal responsibility, etc. etc. etc.

It's a "temporary" solution to balance the teams in a casual game of football, like in the example I gave earlier in this thread. So, to be honest, I don't follow your logic. Temporary solutions are the only solutions that we have control over. We're not the developers.

Originally Posted by Rainyman

I'm sure there are more than enough L65 freeps on all the servers... the real question is how to get them into the moors.

Sure, there are probably lots of freeps who would pvp if there were better gear rewards, but I think the question is how to get this game's pvp'ers to recognize that when they play their creeps when freeps are outnumbered (which is usually the case during U.S. primetime), it would make for more challenging (and therefore better) fights if they actually played freep instead.

Originally Posted by Dasein

How is a temporary solution a bad thing? That's exactly the point. When creeps recognize that they should probably be playing freep when freeps are completely outnumbered, it's simply a responsible and mature thing to do. When freeps had creeps outnumbered and buttoned up in TA yesterday, I logged off. Temporary solution, personal responsibility, etc. etc. etc.

It's a "temporary" solution to balance the teams in a casual game of football, like in the example I gave earlier in this thread. So, to be honest, I don't follow your logic. Temporary solutions are the only solutions that we have control over. We're not the developers.

I don't mind folks logging off, and I go AFK a large portion of the time if I hear Freeps are hugely outnumbered, however asking folks to switch from their most loved class, or to switch to the side that they don't enjoy at all, seems selfish, hence why I wouldn't consider that a solution that is fair to everyone. I'm more than supportive of folks logging off, going afk and so on, but I personally will NEVER ask people to change class/side because my side is suffering.

Originally Posted by Dasein

Sure, there are probably lots of freeps who would pvp if there were better gear rewards, but I think the question is how to get this game's pvp'ers to recognize that when they play their creeps when freeps are outnumbered (which is usually the case during U.S. primetime), it would make for more challenging (and therefore better) fights if they actually played freep instead.

What's keeping me out of the moors is actually my frugality. I hate wasting gold that is actually useful for other things, unlike how it is on the creepside. And pots are a definite necessity in the moors.

Originally Posted by CandiceAurora

I don't mind folks logging off, and I go AFK a large portion of the time if I hear Freeps are hugely outnumbered, however asking folks to switch from their most loved class, or to switch to the side that they don't enjoy at all, seems selfish, hence why I wouldn't consider that a solution that is fair to everyone. I'm more than supportive of folks logging off, going afk and so on, but I personally will NEVER ask people to change class/side because my side is suffering.

Asking freeps to transfer to E is selfish and self centered. This whole thread is based around it. What some of the people are trying to ask is how can creep side possibly be any fun no matter what class you play if it is completely creep dominated in numbers and not the slightest chance of freeps winning? I hope you creeps never complain about farming pots cuz it is boring because its basically just as easy and mind numbing as fighting freeps when they are completely out numbered. Afterall, you people love your class so much nothing else matters. Wouldn't that be awesome if they doubled the price of pots on creepside?!

I got tired of all the whiney freeps complaining creeps are overpowered.

So I, and a few others, temporarily stopped playing our creeps on E, and levelled freeps back on Firefoot, myself an RK which took me around 2 and a half weeks.

Finally lvl65, spending this week deeding/gearing and then its time to whomp some creeps all over the map!

Oh and for kicks im gunna focus my RK on dishing out AOE damage hahahahha

Originally Posted by thenoobler

Oh and for kicks im gunna focus my RK on dishing out AOE damage hahahahha

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Could you give us a break-down of the #s, etc, in peak time on E for example?

Originally Posted by CarltheRed

Could you give us a break-down of the #s, etc, in peak time on E for example?

Any response you could get would be very subjective and instantaneous. So, I recommend you take a look at http://pvmpstats.alanlouie.com/ for an actual reference of how much activity (renown/infamy gain) there is for the last couple of weeks on each server. All you need to do is follow the link, click on server names at the top and look at the graph at the bottom.

You'll find Windfola is the smallest server (o.o) and BW and E are both pretty huge.

Originally Posted by timmyloo22546

Asking freeps to transfer to E is selfish and self centered. This whole thread is based around it. What some of the people are trying to ask is how can creep side possibly be any fun no matter what class you play if it is completely creep dominated in numbers and not the slightest chance of freeps winning? I hope you creeps never complain about farming pots cuz it is boring because its basically just as easy and mind numbing as fighting freeps when they are completely out numbered. Afterall, you people love your class so much nothing else matters. Wouldn't that be awesome if they doubled the price of pots on creepside?!

I didn't ask for freeps to transfer, though I'd be more than happy to see them. Like I said, plenty of folks leave when the numbers are totally creep skewed, and the freeps win plenty, though to be fair that would entirely depend on what definition of "winning" you have. Lately, we have been having a lot of awesome fights around the map.

I consider winning getting points for every death I have but, most of the freeps on E, considering winning as being the last men/women standing, regardless of points and fun, thus I suppose by that definition they lose.... Again I could ask what fun there was for Freepside when creeps never won? When it took a huge number of us to kill stuff? *shrug* Each to their own. I make my own fun on E.

And you can go ahead and triple pot prices if you like, over thirty gold on Hell, happy to give it out to folks, etc. For all I care you can take away all DPS skills away from my WL, and make it so she can only walk everywhere (literally). I'll still play her.

Originally Posted by CandiceAurora

I didn't ask for freeps to transfer, though I'd be more than happy to see them. Like I said, plenty of folks leave when the numbers are totally creep skewed, and the freeps win plenty, though to be fair that would entirely depend on what definition of "winning" you have. Lately, we have been having a lot of awesome fights around the map.

I consider winning getting points for every death I have but, most of the freeps on E, considering winning as being the last men/women standing, regardless of points and fun, thus I suppose by that definition they lose.... Again I could ask what fun there was for Freepside when creeps never won? When it took a huge number of us to kill stuff? *shrug* Each to their own. I make my own fun on E.

And you can go ahead and triple pot prices if you like, over thirty gold on Hell, happy to give it out to folks, etc. For all I care you can take away all DPS skills away from my WL, and make it so she can only walk everywhere (literally). I'll still play her.

We agree on something finally Hellz. So long as i get a kill or 2 before dying im having fun, it sucks however when you have a full wipe and 3 different creeps on 200 morale

Also at the guy who says pots are essential i dont buy pots for the moors and i do just fine soloing/small grouping. Generally all pots do i delay the inevitable. Sure i might have missed out on a few kills because i didnt have a morale pot but iv saved a hell of a lot of money by not buying them and i dont feel gimped by it at all.

Originally Posted by Assassin12

We agree on something finally Hellz. So long as i get a kill or 2 before dying im having fun, it sucks however when you have a full wipe and 3 different creeps on 200 morale

Also at the guy who says pots are essential i dont buy pots for the moors and i do just fine soloing/small grouping. Generally all pots do i delay the inevitable. Sure i might have missed out on a few kills because i didnt have a morale pot but iv saved a hell of a lot of money by not buying them and i dont feel gimped by it at all.

That's probably because you play classes that have built in cc recoveries.

As a weaver, let's just say that freeps with pots is the difference between me soloing two of you and me dying miserably.

I refuse to transfer unless I get 300 gold upon arrival.

Originally Posted by CarltheRed

Could you give us a break-down of the #s, etc, in peak time on E for example?

Most evenings during U.S. primetime it's about 50 creeps versus about 20 freeps. If it's selfish to ask that some of the creeps playing during this time switch to freepside so the numbers can be more even, then I don't know what planet I'm living on.

Hellnakh, do you think it'd be a good idea for me to be on my RVR all the time so that it'd be 51 creeps to 19 freeps during U.S. primetime and I'm yet another person contributing to the numbers imbalance that makes for lame gameplay most nights? Seriously?

There are quite a few creeps on Elendilmir now who refuse to take responsibility for the numbers imbalance, who probably don't read the forums, and who are opportunistic players who couldn't care less if they never had a challenging fight as long as inf points are flowing in. The reason it's especially important to take personal responsibility for in-game balance is because there are so many people who refuse to.

Originally Posted by Grusk

So, I recommend you take a look at http://pvmpstats.alanlouie.com/ for an actual reference of how much activity (renown/infamy gain) there is for the last couple of weeks on each server.

Those stats don't give you any sense of what things are like at various times of the day. Elendilmir U.S. primetime is very different from the rest of the day. Plus, there is a huge Aussie/Kiwi population on Elendilmir, which means there is another primetimee that begins about eight hours later. None of those stats sites reflect the huge population fluctuations that happen throughout the day.

landroval cant really afford to share the love w/ freeps on other servers.

We are busy fighting many creep transfers and feel we are often outnumbered.(which i personally dont mind )

by often , its usually 4-1 odds or more. the creeps born on landy are rolling freeps and helping out our side so we can fight that is how bad it is . by bad i mean we are having creeps busting at the seems.

so to send over any skilled players would destroy landroval completely.

/salute the creeps that help the community.

also after seeing how fast some freeps ranked? is it really that dire on e?

Originally Posted by Dasein

If it's selfish to ask that some of the creeps playing during this time switch to freepside so the numbers can be more even, then I don't know what planet I'm living on.

The majority of vet creeps on E have been told time and time again they aint welcome on freepside, so why waste our playtime and ruin our own fun catering to freeps?

Originally Posted by Jerkan

The majority of vet creeps on E have been told time and time again they aint welcome on freepside, so why waste our playtime and ruin our own fun catering to freeps?

I don't know who is telling you this Sopot, but you'd be more than welcome in my groups any time you want a change of pace and want to play freepside a bit...

have to agree with fauve if moof/scoobs/lod/vengeful just to name a few can come over freepside and be civil and polite and have fun its all good. I havent seen any real issues except with fantaros LOL. Hell we got anca on a hunter out there and judging by what ive been seeing and hearing creepside i have to wonder how vets can take dealing with 20 plus oystermouths/moorwyns