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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Zitat Zitat von KarelTheV Beitrag anzeigen
    LOL. ironic coming from you sheebs. i dont raid unless i have to or im bored and want to chat with friends so im sorry =D
    Is this the man or the boy? Is this the father or the son? Is this the teacher or the pupil? Is this the parent or the offspring? Is this the friend or the friend?

    On another note!!
    What defines a raid? More then 12? Having someone in your group greater then 6 that is not a friend or kin member or not in vent? When you convert from a fellowship into a raid?

    I would go with the conversion. Of course once the raid is formed, you can have a small raid or a LARGE raid with many sizes in between.

    In fact some are in a raid while a member of said raid is participating in a one versus one. Speaking of a 1v1, who defines what skills can be used?

    If this is a true 1v1 thread - the fight must be defind in advance. The fight must be made as fair as possible. Certain skills must be agreed upon. Kiting or standing toe to toe? Pots or no pots? Slows or no slows? Buffs or no buffs? Stuns, mezzes, or roots? Melee or range or tactical? Weapons or no weapons? In a keep or open field? Tuesday or Saturday?

    By the time you figure out the above guide lines, the zergball hits and you are dead. So in other words, stop 1v1 in the middle of the map. Have a nice day. :-)

    Submission? Well that's a bit of a problem. See, rumor has it the Athenians have already turned you down, and if those philosophers and, uh, boy-lovers have found that kind of nerve, then, of course, Spartans have their reputation to consider.

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Zitat Zitat von cubbysweet Beitrag anzeigen
    Is this the man or the boy? Is this the father or the son? Is this the teacher or the pupil? Is this the parent or the offspring? Is this the friend or the friend?

    On another note!!
    What defines a raid? More then 12? Having someone in your group greater then 6 that is not a friend or kin member or not in vent? When you convert from a fellowship into a raid?

    I would go with the conversion. Of course once the raid is formed, you can have a small raid or a LARGE raid with many sizes in between.

    In fact some are in a raid while a member of said raid is participating in a one versus one. Speaking of a 1v1, who defines what skills can be used?

    If this is a true 1v1 thread - the fight must be defind in advance. The fight must be made as fair as possible. Certain skills must be agreed upon. Kiting or standing toe to toe? Pots or no pots? Slows or no slows? Buffs or no buffs? Stuns, mezzes, or roots? Melee or range or tactical? Weapons or no weapons? In a keep or open field? Tuesday or Saturday?

    By the time you figure out the above guide lines, the zergball hits and you are dead. So in other words, stop 1v1 in the middle of the map. Have a nice day. :-)
    I think you think too much...

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    I think you think too much...
    I think that you think too much about me thinking too much. I will admit that the tangents were flowing like the 405 freeway on carmagedon weekend.

    Submission? Well that's a bit of a problem. See, rumor has it the Athenians have already turned you down, and if those philosophers and, uh, boy-lovers have found that kind of nerve, then, of course, Spartans have their reputation to consider.

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Thanks for all the spars to Dakada, Abyssea, Toebite, Demobrute, Nogoodnameleft, Oienaus, Athare, Iann, Bulletspunge, Grievious, Maggotmeat, Tibbers and many many others

    Cya around!

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Another fun night! lots of fights

    tks to Toe, bow, balky, Iann, dreykhan and a few others for all the spars

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Yep great fights the last few nights fellas!! =) Dor, your a beast!

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Had some good Spars with Maltepup , thanks for coming back all those times with out other wargs

    *respect that
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    thanks for the fight toebite, best warg ive ever sparred and even though im not geared to my best ability you still own my burg and will still own my guard.

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Aye good fights man! Looking foward to many more! =)

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Thanks to everyone for the 1v1's last night.
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    good 1vs1 this night...tanks to all x the fights

    to 8legs: i dont share ur point of view bro, cd skills r there to be used, and still u can loose and still can be a fun/fair fight.
    i v been around for a long time.. and no "IM NOT ONE OF THOSE BADDIES THAT CANT HANDLE A CLOSE 1ON1 FIGHT"
    i love to spread infamy all around, but still want to feel the sweet taste of victory from time to time.

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    good 1vs1 this night...tanks to all x the fights

    to 8legs: i dont share ur point of view bro, cd skills r there to be used, and still u can loose and still can be a fun/fair fight.
    i v been around for a long time.. and no "IM NOT ONE OF THOSE BADDIES THAT CANT HANDLE A CLOSE 1ON1 FIGHT"
    i love to spread infamy all around, but still want to feel the sweet taste of victory from time to time.
    I don't support blowing cooldowns when both players are under 1k, which you did consistently tonight. Where's the fun in that? There's no challenge in it. Based on how you played tonight, you are a baddie who can't handle a close fight. Sure, cooldowns are there to use, but why use them if you can get away without it? Cuz you might die? ./eyeroll
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    Thanks to everyone for the 1v1's last night.
    yeah! excellent fights

    tks to all the ugly creeps and the cuties freeps
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread


    good fights ( 1 vs 1 ) last night creeps , was a blast


    RED


    ( I finally beat Bow`s Spider , not once but twice , damn he is hard to beat!!!! )
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Good 1v1s lately, seems to be going on at least once every day.

    Fun spars with Meadrasi, Vinthorn, Jasrix, Softello, Rinen, and probably more.

    Lets keep em goin!!
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    good fights ( 1 vs 1 ) last night creeps , was a blast


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    ( I finally beat Bow`s Spider , not once but twice , damn he is hard to beat!!!! )
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Eldacarion,

    Sorry my group jumped in at the last instant there, but I think I had ya beat anyway :P

    As much a surprise to me as to anyone, I'm sure

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Nice fights Eldacarion.

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Thanks for all the spars! thanks toebite, sneekycharlie, metzgeri, hunchy, cocomiel, grievious, maggotmeat, zerganardo, rakshaaza, stoneweaver and all the others

    Very fun fights all thanks again!

    To stoneweaver: dont worry man i get so used to it to zergs and interruptions lol you cant avoid this stuffs happen so it dont affect me hehe thanks for the fight! (i wanna a rematch :P)

    To zerganardo: very fun fights! it take us like 5 minutes haha and was pretty close to both sides, thank you!

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Sorry I couldn't give you a good fight Eldacarion, but thank you for letting me try. I enjoyed watching your fights with Zerganardo though. He gave me some tips afterwards too. Maybe someday I'll make you break a sweat.
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    To rak: lol no i really enjoy the fight you are one of the best wl that i know! thanks for the chance man and remember my class is very op now, i remember when i first spar you (when the guard was normal) that you kill me very fast and easy hehe.

    Take care man cya around!

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    (i wanna a rematch :P)

    Probably not gonna happen unless it just happens. I generally don't seek out the 1v1 thing

    The moors is an open pvp place, and I feel it's my duty to seek every advantage and take as many steps as possible to make sure I engage on terms as much in my favor as possible. The controlling my toon part of pvp is only a part of the process. Situational awareness and placing yourself in position to win, or not lose, is another part of the skillset that is often denigrated by those who have great hand-eye coordination and can't think thier way out of a paper bag. Like kittens, sort of.



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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Great fights tonight all!

    Doronor, Adaam, Soft, Mead, Red, Eor, Kim.. And others!!

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Thanks a lot to all the creeps who fight tonight on the 1v1 take care and have fun!

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Grievious, thanks for the 1v1s!

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    Great fights tonight all!

    Doronor, Adaam, Soft, Mead, Red, Eor, Kim.. And others!!
    Yeah, pretty fun fights with brut, berz, 8legg and you as always

    Had to log because i was lagging pretty bad
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Very good 1vs1`s last night , very nice to see the large amount of freeps and Creeps out, pretty cool

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    Yeah, pretty fun fights with brut, berz, 8legg and you as always

    Had to log because i was lagging pretty bad
    Had wondered where you went. That's too bad, it was a pretty good turnout last night.

    Thanks to everyone who came out to 1v1.
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    Nice fights Eldacarion.

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    Whoa whoa whoa. Willo's on Silverlode now??? Maybe I need to stop playing my warden on Vanyar and come back to my burg.
    Nah, you are good where you are! There are plenty of "good" Burgs here to pick up the slack.
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    Nah, you are good where you are! There are plenty of "good" Burgs here to pick up the slack.
    You're mad... I can tell.

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    To rak: lol no i really enjoy the fight you are one of the best wl that i know! thanks for the chance man and remember my class is very op now, i remember when i first spar you (when the guard was normal) that you kill me very fast and easy hehe.

    Take care man cya around!
    When were guards "normal"? Last time I checked guards have always been pretty OP.

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    To callo:

    Mmm well idk i am a noob as you can see this is my only character but i note before the echoes of the dead that the class become more op, also i was trying to be nice... because i am nice and that is what i do. So at the end of the day i am sure you wanna love me

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    You're mad... I can tell.
    Yes I am...I checked my attic and you were not in it...
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    You're mad... I can tell.
    You are constipated and Wasabe is a shemale...

    I too can tell

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Why is it when I post something most of the time someone from Inq quotes me right after?
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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    When were guards "normal"? Last time I checked guards have always been pretty OP.
    In Shadows of Angmar, Guardians were what they were supposed to be. Great on defense (practically unkillable), but terrible on offense.

    Then again, you wouldn't know that, would you, since back in SoA you were still a noob whose name no one knew (like that's changed at all...lol)?

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

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    Why is it when I post something most of the time someone from Inq quotes me right after?
    Maybe 'cause you and the rest of your kin hopped on their D as soon as they xfered over because you couldn't stand other high-ranking players coming to steal your glory?

    Inb4 picking sides, barely know Inq, they were stuck up before, probably still are now, I've just known and disliked Spirits for far longer.

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Zitat Zitat von gabriele300 Beitrag anzeigen
    You are constipated and Wasabe is a shemale...

    I too can tell
    I need some ex-lax.

    I agree with the second statement.

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    Re: Good 1 vs 1 thread

    Zitat Zitat von Terrible_Player Beitrag anzeigen
    Maybe 'cause you and the rest of your kin hopped on their D as soon as they xfered over because you couldn't stand other high-ranking players coming to steal your glory?

    Inb4 picking sides, barely know Inq, they were stuck up before, probably still are now, I've just known and disliked Spirits for far longer.
    You are right like always Hal. You know everything about everyone in this game. How do you do it?
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