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    Re: What sword are you using?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaluu View Post
    Speaking of small numbers, anybody know why icpr is measured in tenths? What is that all about lol.
    lol Right? It seemed to follow when all of our other stats transitioned from easy-to-understand percentages to unintelligible number values ("1833 evade"? wft does that mean? lol) which translated into %'s so small they were afraid to show them to us.
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    Re: What sword are you using?

    Quote Originally Posted by brasswire12 View Post
    I don't understand what you mean. ICPR is always ticking away, always increasing your power to give you more than you would have had otherwise. The only time it's not useful is when you're sitting at full power and not using any skills. The longer a fight goes the more critical ICPR becomes.
    If I am looking at 50 icpr, I see it's value at the time I am 50 power short, or 100 after 2 minutes etc, and don't have it. If I absoluotely need it to share power with a mini or warden and it is not there and I could have had it, then I have a less than optimal build.

    For the specific build I am thinking of where I use these swords in a raid, I have maxed out or almost maxed out will, fate, food, and equipment. So, I have already added up all the little bits that together add up to nice big numbers. One of the few numbers left is 50 icpr on a sword which I can take or not.

    But, if with playstyle I can do without that last little bit of 50 icpr in exchange for 170 morale, I will make that trade. So, I can watch how fast the minis are using power, ie. how much damage the melee are taking, how much power the spells I am casting use, and see at what point in the fight I can draw power which I can't do if I am being interrupted, and if I can do that and not be 50 power short, I don't take the 50 icpr. If I am careless and run out without noticing, then well, I suck.

    A current end game Lm can easily run with 5000 power before buffs if they choose for a power hungry fellowship. By easily I don't mean it doesn't take time to get the stuff , I mean there are many ways to get that number in ways that suit each player's preference of play.
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    Re: What sword are you using?

    I'm still using turvegil so what if there is no tac crit we don't need it :P

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    In light of the upcoming change whereby all LMs get sword and staff at lviv 40 as a skill, I though this discussion was worth resurrecting. Thought on swords?

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    I normally use:

    http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Item...he_Steady_Mind

    But always keep:

    http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Item%3ALhoir-cledhu

    on hand for orcs or if I'm in a DPS role.

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    This one seems popular and is easy to get
    http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Item...ord_of_Insight

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    Quote Originally Posted by RambleOnRemillard View Post
    what he said

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    http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Weapo..._Determination

    Dropped off a landscape mob in the Heathfells for me (Level 75 version).

    DPS is low, but the other stats aren't bad.

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    I personally use a fairly rubbish sword that I've probably out levelled really but the best I've seen (for stats rather than damage) is definitely this crafted one lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Weapon:Steadfast_Sword_of_Théo dred (sorry dud link)
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    I'm using http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Item...d_of_the_Brute (it's really Deadly Straight Sword of the Stoic, but they never got around there to changing them back)

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    I'm using http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Item...ord_of_Insight currently.

    I do have the one a couple of folks mentioned (Ithilwegil) but my Will is pretty high already and my tac mit is capped in raids, so I prefer the crafted one for the crit rating and the extra raw morale.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Casilune View Post
    I'm using http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Item...d_of_the_Brute (it's really Deadly Straight Sword of the Stoic, but they never got around there to changing them back)
    Did the sums and the sword you can get for rep in Stangard scores over it on Tac mastery, the net benefit from the Straight Sword is a bit of crit rating, about 1.5%. Might become different with differing builds. Dps goes up marginally for the sword, but the drop in mastery may knock if back again on auto attacks. Beleriand damage type might balance that up again. Needs some serious parses to tell because in the end the only real issue will be crit rating.
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    Thumbs up

    I go for the one that looks the nicest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bregyn View Post
    I go for the one that looks the nicest.
    Me too. I don't like the great river and theodred crafted swords because of their looks. So I've been using http://lotro-wiki.com/index.php/Item%3APica-cledhu. It's a nice looking sword.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mithithil View Post
    Did the sums and the sword you can get for rep in Stangard scores over it on Tac mastery, the net benefit from the Straight Sword is a bit of crit rating, about 1.5%. Might become different with differing builds. Dps goes up marginally for the sword, but the drop in mastery may knock if back again on auto attacks. Beleriand damage type might balance that up again. Needs some serious parses to tell because in the end the only real issue will be crit rating.
    I don't really care if it's not the OMG-greatest-sword-ever. I like the extra vitality, it's not like critical is bad, and I like using a hand-crafted weapon.

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