I was referring to the growing of her hair by singing to use it as a ladder to escape. Another valid question would be "Rubadeh" (روباده) from the Persian epic Shahnameh with a slight difference: She uses her hair to help his lover Sām climb up to her
There are of course a lot of tales of friendship in Tolkiens works. In LoTR the whole idea of the fellowship and its members centers pretty much on friendship. Also the friendship/understanding between Frodo and Smeagol/Gollum is notable. My guess is none of these - it is the first thing that came to mind when thinking about Tolkien and friendship:
The friendship between Beleg Cúthalion and Túrin Turambar.
In my opinion that is one of the most remarkable tales of friendship in all Middle-Earth. Beleg really goes out on a limb for Túrin, but the story ends sadly for both of them, as we all know.
I preferred the transliteration of the original Greek Οἰδίπους rather than the more common Oedipus which is the Latinized form
You're absolutely correct
The tragedy of Túrin often strikes me harder than that of Oidipus in the telling of Sophocles but such excellent interpretations as this in which we see Christopher Plummer and Orson Welles help even out
I agree with Boraxxe that Shelob's lair would be a very disgusting smelling place. However, I will try an alternate solution: Saruman arranging the breeding of half-orcs, which seems quite disgusting when you think about the details.
"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend," Faramir in TTT by JRRT.
While those are certainly both rather disgusting, neither are correct. Try looking at it slightly differently.
OK, I'll look at it differently. This will be wrong, but it's another take anyway.
If we split the clue up into 2 parts we have "dis" and "gusting".
Dis is the Roman god of the underworld and the Middle-earth equivalent is Melkor.
Gusting is wind blowing in bursts or it could mean bursts of emotion also.
So now we have strong bursts of wind blowing Melkor around.
I submit that the answer is Tulkas.
Quote from the Silmarillion; ”So came Tulkas the Strong, whose anger passes like a mighty wind, scattering cloud and darkness before it, and Melkor fled before his wrath and his laughter, and forsook Arda, and there was peace for a long age.”
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Wow. I would never have even thought of looking at it like that. I don't think I'm clever enough to come up with a riddle like that. Kudos for that answer, Boraxxe.
You still aren't looking at it quite right, however.
OK, so far we have tried a disgusting location (smell), a disgusting act, and even breaking down disgusting to come up with a very unique answer. Assuming we were not on the right track with any of those, I will guess a character: Gollum. It is mentioned a few times when Frodo and/or Sam are disgusted with Gollum’s actions, eating habits, etc. It is also stated that when Frodo offers Gollum some lembas bread, Gollum is disgusted by the smell of the elves on it.
"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend," Faramir in TTT by JRRT.
Well then, having tried a location, an act, a character, and an out of the box break-down of the word, all to be told we are not on the right track, the only other track I can think to go down is to find a disgusting object, but none spring to mind. Evil objects, sure. But disgusting…can’t think of any.
Anyone else have a different ‘track’ they can think to try?
"I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness, nor the arrow for its swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend," Faramir in TTT by JRRT.
Well, the Sackville-Baggins were hoping to get Bag End after the departure of Bilbo. Once they read the will, seeing the ownership would belong to Frodo, I'm sure they found that to be somewhat disgusting.
Disgusting can also mean loathsome, revolting or nauseous, so perhaps the fell beasts of the winged Nazgul? They were pretty disgusting.
"And behold! It was a winged creature: if bird, then greater than all other birds, and it was naked, and neither quill nor feather did it bear, and its vast pinions were as webs of hide between horned fingers; and it stank."
Galthonviel's answer is in the right general area of the books, and the more that I look at it, the closer it seems to what I'm looking for.
StrideColossus's answer isn't correct, but how he got there is close.
What about the state of Bag End when the hobbits return in The Scouring of the Shire? I haven't got the text to hand (at work!) but if memory serves the place was decrepit and full of rats, that's pretty disgusting.
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