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    Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    So, I have completed absolutely EVERY deed and have every title in Angmar, except this one. I have done every single other deed inside Carn Dum, all completed. (So many runs, omg.) However, after countless numbers of slugs killed on the way to Helchie, I still have not gotten this hidden title deed and I don't know why. This is on my Minstrel, by the way, who is an elf. Got the deed just fine on my Burglar. I just don't understand. Is it class/race specific? If my toon is an Elf Minstrel, can I just not get the title (like how elves can't kill the little level 1 critters but other races can)?
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    I know an elf hunter who has it. I know a hobbit minstrel who has it.
    Not sure if there is something about that particular configuration, but I highly doubt that is why.
    Maybe it does not work if the slugs are grey? That would be dumb.

    What I've found with hidden deeds in the past is, usually they work correctly, but there is a lot of room for user error with deeds that are not visible. You probably still need to kill more slugs.
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by MysterX View Post
    I know an elf hunter who has it. I know a hobbit minstrel who has it.
    Not sure if there is something about that particular configuration, but I highly doubt that is why.
    Maybe it does not work if the slugs are grey? That would be dumb.

    What I've found with hidden deeds in the past is, usually they work correctly, but there is a lot of room for user error with deeds that are not visible. You probably still need to kill more slugs.
    Well, I got every other deed done inside Carn Dum through countless runs back at level 50 in SoA, so I don't see why I wouldn't have this deed, unless there is some sort of bug with my progression on it. And I know of people who have been through the sewers 1/10th of the times that I have been through them and who have gotten the deed. I'm just going to go with the assumption that my deed progression is bugged in there, if no one else is having any problems.
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cloudie-wan View Post
    Well, I got every other deed done inside Carn Dum through countless runs back at level 50 in SoA, so I don't see why I wouldn't have this deed, unless there is some sort of bug with my progression on it. And I know of people who have been through the sewers 1/10th of the times that I have been through them and who have gotten the deed. I'm just going to go with the assumption that my deed progression is bugged in there, if no one else is having any problems.
    I did every deed in CD and never got this until at least 10+ more runs. Its killing 100 mini slugs. I ran CD a ton of times for kinnies, and that helm with might on it (at this time in the game it was the ONLY heavy helm with might).
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    This title wasn't implemented until very late in SoA. Maybe you haven't run it enough since then to get the title. It was the last title from there that I got, so it's very possible to get everything else and still need more slugs.
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Um, you know what got me? I was running the Moria instances on my burg, wondering why I wasn't seeing some of the slayer titles I know I have I my captain, when someone pointed out there's a new tab under Deeds for Instances. They've moved the slayer deeds from instances to that tab. Felt like a ditz, lol.
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Slug Wrangler is a hidden deed and won't show up at all until you complete it.

    I want my "The Venomous" title back.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Had a mini ding this on Saturday afternoon in my group.


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    Angry Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Had a red hot go at getting the deed tonight with some kinnies...spent over 2 hours grinding slugs (and orcs and angmarim etc...) managed to knock over all of the other deeds except the slugs.

    Managed to knock off every deed and despite having killed at least 200 slugs in each of those runs (we just kept resetting CD and clearing the first 20 orcs and all of the slugs).

    Still no ding for the secret deed.

    Obviously a tad vexed by this we hit a GM up for some answers...
    ...after some serious negotiating and badgering we manage to squeeze a 'you have not completed the prequisites for the deed, and you don't have the prerequisites to complete the deed...' We could get no further information out of the GM despite attempting to escalate this poor answer to someone moor senior.

    So we now know that there are pre-req for the secret angamr deed, and at this stage we suspect it is the Slug Squasher deed in the shire, as those classes which have been mentioned as being successful in acquiring the deed, are classes which use Determination in their typical set-up. As to whether there are other slug type deeds I'm not 100% sure, I will get more information back to you once we know.

    At this point I would like to COMPLAIN LOUDLY about the inclusion of a secret deed with hidden prerequisites as a requirement for a 'meta-deed' for an ingame reward, where, when asked - a Senior GM is unable to inform you of what these pre-req's are. This is ridiculous and serves to do nothing but build up frustration amongst those now grossly waning amount of players who still have some love for what is rapidly becoming a farce of a game!

    Sort it out Turbine, stop adding half-cut content repeaters and spend some of that newly acquired WB $$$ to get this game back to where it was in the days of SoA.

    (Yes I was extremely angry when I posted this...)

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by thagee2 View Post
    At this point I would like to COMPLAIN LOUDLY about the inclusion of a secret deed with hidden prerequisites as a requirement for a 'meta-deed' for an ingame reward, where, when asked - a Senior GM is unable to inform you of what these pre-req's are. This is ridiculous and serves to do nothing but build up frustration amongst those now grossly waning amount of players who still have some love for what is rapidly becoming a farce of a game!
    I can understand how are upset about the hidden deed as part of a 'meta-deed'.

    There is nothing a game master can do for you. The hidden deeds are exactly that. There is requirement that no Turbine employee provide any useful information. No doubt there is a seriously big stick with a beefy operator standing by to retrain employees that have difficulties with obeying the rules.

    A portion of the customer base enjoys the hidden deeds. I do not see Turbine changing all these deeds. There must dozens of them public.


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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by thagee2 View Post
    Had a red hot go at getting the deed tonight with some kinnies...spent over 2 hours grinding slugs (and orcs and angmarim etc...) managed to knock over all of the other deeds except the slugs.

    Managed to knock off every deed and despite having killed at least 200 slugs in each of those runs (we just kept resetting CD and clearing the first 20 orcs and all of the slugs).

    Still no ding for the secret deed.

    Obviously a tad vexed by this we hit a GM up for some answers...
    ...after some serious negotiating and badgering we manage to squeeze a 'you have not completed the prequisites for the deed, and you don't have the prerequisites to complete the deed...' We could get no further information out of the GM despite attempting to escalate this poor answer to someone moor senior.

    So we now know that there are pre-req for the secret angamr deed, and at this stage we suspect it is the Slug Squasher deed in the shire, as those classes which have been mentioned as being successful in acquiring the deed, are classes which use Determination in their typical set-up. As to whether there are other slug type deeds I'm not 100% sure, I will get more information back to you once we know.

    At this point I would like to COMPLAIN LOUDLY about the inclusion of a secret deed with hidden prerequisites as a requirement for a 'meta-deed' for an ingame reward, where, when asked - a Senior GM is unable to inform you of what these pre-req's are. This is ridiculous and serves to do nothing but build up frustration amongst those now grossly waning amount of players who still have some love for what is rapidly becoming a farce of a game!

    Sort it out Turbine, stop adding half-cut content repeaters and spend some of that newly acquired WB $$$ to get this game back to where it was in the days of SoA.

    (Yes I was extremely angry when I posted this...)
    I can understand your frustration, but since this is a deed in an SoA instance, that was added when SoA was the only content available, isn't the Slug-Squasher deed exactly where it was in the days of SoA?


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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lestache View Post
    I can understand your frustration, but since this is a deed in an SoA instance, that was added when SoA was the only content available, isn't the Slug-Squasher deed exactly where it was in the days of SoA?
    I am sure is. I do not know if it is a live launch deed. Or was added later like Pork-Chopper. The interesting thing this meta-deed is that it requires completion of a hidden deed.

    Eregion has a meta-deed. You are not required to do the Eregion hidden deed for Ridge Racer.


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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    No lestache the CD slug killing secret deed was added later in the piece - I'm guessing around the time of the new deeds to gain higher increments of traits when they raised the trait cap from 8 to 10.

    Even a hint, like something in a pre-req deed mouse over...perhaps along the lines of 'This serves as a prerequisite for other deeds' would be enough of a clue.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by thagee2 View Post
    No lestache the CD slug killing secret deed was added later in the piece - I'm guessing around the time of the new deeds to gain higher increments of traits when they raised the trait cap from 8 to 10.
    The cap has always been ten in live. There were not enough deeds to get to 10 for all virtues at live launch.


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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by thagee2 View Post
    Wasting multiple hours grining for absolutely nothing is the kind of thing that makes people log out and go: Start>Turbine>Lord of the Rings Online>Uninstall. I seriously love this game, but it's getting harder to justify the relationship these days.
    So, you're angry at Turbine because you spent hours trying to complete a deed that wasn't even in-game yet? Also, you expect the support staff to tell you about hidden deeds?
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Maybe you need to do the Slug-Squasher deed in the Shire first?


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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by auximenes View Post
    So, you're angry at Turbine because you spent hours trying to complete a deed that wasn't even in-game yet? Also, you expect the support staff to tell you about hidden deeds?
    Slug-Wrangler was already in the game - the meta-deed requiring it wasn't.


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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    (With apologies for the double-post).


    Quote Originally Posted by thagee2 View Post
    No lestache the CD slug killing secret deed was added later in the piece - I'm guessing around the time of the new deeds to gain higher increments of traits when they raised the trait cap from 8 to 10.
    Quote Originally Posted by FissionChips View Post
    This title wasn't implemented until very late in SoA. Maybe you haven't run it enough since then to get the title. It was the last title from there that I got, so it's very possible to get everything else and still need more slugs.
    I'll trust the guy who soloed Coldbear at level 50. In other words, the deed seems to have existed in SoA, just fairly late in SoA is all.


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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    All of the deeds in CD/Uru/BG were added late in SoA (about book 13 iirc). This includes the slug wrangler deed. I had them all completed (barring 2 from BG which I finished early in MoM) pretty much as soon as they came out and can attest to the existence of all the deeds (my shiny new horses/goats can attest to that too). The deed for the slugs is hidden, no big deal if you ask me. Having completed it I can tell you 100 slugs are required to complete the deed (with no retroactive ticking). Whether they are the big slugs or the small slugs or both, I really could not tell you. I did not know the deed even existed until I dinged it, which was a nice surprise, so I wasn't exactly keeping track. All I know is I've run CD (along with every other instance, like, ever) so many times it would make your eyes bleed. Keep at it, I can understand how it must seem frustrating to have no indication as to the amount of progress you are making, but trust me when I say you ARE making progress, it WILL happen eventually. Good luck.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    I'm not positive if the small slugs count for it. But I dinged on it today with the big slugs. And this being my last deed in CD, I'm a proud new owner of the Angmar Steed.
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    I'm not sure but I think you guys might be missing the point. Before you can even start on the 'hidden' slug-wrangler deed in CD, there is an 'unknown' pre-requisite deed or deeds which you have to complete first.

    That's where the frustration lies, especially when this isn't advertised. People may love hidden secret squirrel ****, but personally I don't and nor does our kin. I could handle having this silly 'hidden' slug-wrangler deed, but not when there's some other 'unknown' deed or deeds I have to do first. I mean it could be slug-squasher in the shire, but if it's not, I could waste however much time doing it for nothing.

    EDIT: And of course if I do do the slug-squasher in the shire, I'll have no idea if that was the unknown pre-requisite because, of course, the slug-wrangler deed is hidden. Surely you can see why some people would get frustrated.
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    I got it and do not even remeber trying to get the deed. But then again I did do the shire slug deed a long time ago because it was one of the vitures I liked to use at that time. I have no idea what the hidden pre req is but I must of received it.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by JRonnie View Post
    I'm not sure but I think you guys might be missing the point. Before you can even start on the 'hidden' slug-wrangler deed in CD, there is an 'unknown' pre-requisite deed or deeds which you have to complete first.
    Is this confirmed? Or just some fairytale rumour that grumpy people have made up to validate their venting? If is the former, then the only information I can give you is that it is some deed in Eriador since I had the title pre-MoM. If it is the latter then the rest of your post is a bit of a waste of time. Care to link to any dev-posts or user-confirmed data supporting the statement above? Or just more mindless QQ? I'm not bothered either way, I have my Horse .

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by thagee2 View Post
    Obviously a tad vexed by this we hit a GM up for some answers...
    ...after some serious negotiating and badgering we manage to squeeze a 'you have not completed the prequisites for the deed, and you don't have the prerequisites to complete the deed...' We could get no further information out of the GM despite attempting to escalate this poor answer to someone moor senior.

    So we now know that there are pre-req for the secret angamr deed, and at this stage we suspect it is the Slug Squasher deed in the shire, as those classes which have been mentioned as being successful in acquiring the deed, are classes which use Determination in their typical set-up. As to whether there are other slug type deeds I'm not 100% sure, I will get more information back to you once we know.
    This is what started the prerequisite discussion. The op is going off of a GM statement.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by pibob314 View Post
    Is this confirmed? Or just some fairytale rumour that grumpy people have made up to validate their venting? If is the former, then the only information I can give you is that it is some deed in Eriador since I had the title pre-MoM. If it is the latter then the rest of your post is a bit of a waste of time. Care to link to any dev-posts or user-confirmed data supporting the statement above? Or just more mindless QQ? I'm not bothered either way, I have my Horse .
    First and foremost I would like to say that you Pibob, are a sad excuse for a lotro community member. Your post is hardly helpful or supportive of other players trying to bumble their way through a frustrating scenario. Why even bother posting...what? to big note yourself at how much more spare time you have than other people and that you were LUCKY to have head hunted this deed on a character which had completed the hidden pre-requisite?

    You want facts and useful information???

    Well here it is captain know-it-all:

    Yes there is a pre-requisite deed to the 'secret CD slug deed' the deed is 'Slug-Squasher' which is kill 90 slugs in the shire (for standard and advanced). This has now been proven by members of our kinship several times over which includes me personally who completed the CD 'slug-wrangler' deed last night after just 2 runs through CD AFTER having gone back and completed the Slug Squasher deed (a task we went and knocked off after speaking with the unhelpful GM - actions which were based on a educated guess).

    Now I can't rule out that there were any other deeds which also fulfil these 'pre-requisites' but it would seem at this stage that this is the only one - and considering that my main (a Minstrel) and my partner's main (a LM) didn't have the shire based deed completed prior to our 3-hour time wasting run a few evenings before (as neither of those classes typically use determination in their trait set-up).

    SO for all of you other players out there who play casually and have tried to complete the CD secret slug deed and are having no luck (it should take no more than 2 runs, killing all slugs in CD) then I strongly suggest you check your shire-based slug-squasher deed and get it done if you haven't already.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    http://www.lotro.com/gameinfo/devdia...stance-updates

    Looks like the deeds where added in book 14 but no info on what they where was given at the time and the release notes don't mention them at all.

    "New Deeds

    Finally, we've done a pass to give most of the instances a few deeds specific to them, like Exploration and Slayer deeds. There are also a few hidden deeds... but we'll leave those up to you to discover!

    We hope you like the changes, and we'll see you in Book 14!"

    I also had no trouble with this deed as i used to farm CD for a while before MoM. (it's still one of my favourite instances) I can't see why a hidden deed has another deed as a requirement before you can even start to progress the hidden deed. Needing both ok, but not allowing you to start the deed at all that's just plain annoying.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by pibob314 View Post
    Is this confirmed? Or just some fairytale rumour that grumpy people have made up to validate their venting? If is the former, then the only information I can give you is that it is some deed in Eriador since I had the title pre-MoM. If it is the latter then the rest of your post is a bit of a waste of time. Care to link to any dev-posts or user-confirmed data supporting the statement above? Or just more mindless QQ? I'm not bothered either way, I have my Horse .
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by thagee2 View Post
    (a task we went and knocked off after speaking with the unhelpful GM...)
    Telling you about Deeds is not what GM's are there for.

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    lol, rank 10 egotism!
    You broke your three-year silence and made that post be your first on these boards?
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by thagee2 View Post
    First and foremost I would like to say that you Pibob, are a sad excuse for a lotro community member. Your post is hardly helpful or supportive of other players trying to bumble their way through a frustrating scenario. Why even bother posting...what? to big note yourself at how much more spare time you have than other people and that you were LUCKY to have head hunted this deed on a character which had completed the hidden pre-requisite?

    You want facts and useful information???

    Well here it is captain know-it-all:

    Yes there is a pre-requisite deed to the 'secret CD slug deed' the deed is 'Slug-Squasher' which is kill 90 slugs in the shire (for standard and advanced). This has now been proven by members of our kinship several times over which includes me personally who completed the CD 'slug-wrangler' deed last night after just 2 runs through CD AFTER having gone back and completed the Slug Squasher deed (a task we went and knocked off after speaking with the unhelpful GM - actions which were based on a educated guess).

    Now I can't rule out that there were any other deeds which also fulfil these 'pre-requisites' but it would seem at this stage that this is the only one - and considering that my main (a Minstrel) and my partner's main (a LM) didn't have the shire based deed completed prior to our 3-hour time wasting run a few evenings before (as neither of those classes typically use determination in their trait set-up).

    SO for all of you other players out there who play casually and have tried to complete the CD secret slug deed and are having no luck (it should take no more than 2 runs, killing all slugs in CD) then I strongly suggest you check your shire-based slug-squasher deed and get it done if you haven't already.
    Loving the personal attacks. Makes you seem like such a nice "Lotro community member". LOL.

    Just a suggestion, but perhaps you need to get off your high horse. I asked a genuine question as to whether the assertions being made are actually confirmed or not. There are far too many assumptions flying around these boards. I then simply offered my opinions based on the two possible outcomes of my question. Sorry if you find that unhelpful, I wasn't presenting it as such, however, these are public forums and it is my right to post my opinion, whatever it may be, whether it pleases you, your kinmates, or anyone else, or not.

    For the record, I don't think your "facts and useful information" actually proves anything other than the fact that you spoke to an unhelpful GM, but I won't get into that, lest I be accused of being unsupportive (btw, look at my first post in this thread, talk about throwing your toys out of the pram and jumping to conclusions because of one single post that didn't read exactly the way your were hoping it would.)

    Now please stop making such a big deal out of this. If your intention is to simply goad me into a spot of forum PVP then I should warn you that you are way out of your depth.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Actually Pibob if I followed your initial advice in your magnanimous 'first post' (thanks for gracing this thread with your presence btw) I would still be grinding CD for the 253'rd time and still wondering why the deed hadn't updated.

    You were certainly the first to draw the 'personal attack' sword with your generalisied accusations of my kinmates and my posts being a whinge at lotro and it's GM's, rather than criticism of sub-standard customer service and content design. Again nothing of value in you doing so.

    So that discredits two of your 1779 posts...I really wonder just how many more of those serve any purpose? Of course your gross hubris would prevent you from EVER seeing another persons point of view, so I tell you what - why don't you have the 'last say' by responding to this post and prove to the lotro community just how much out of my depth I am (ha ha ha ha ha) and how much of a bigger forum troll you are than yours truly, as from this point forward I will be not posting any further here.
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by thagee2 View Post
    Actually Pibob if I followed your initial advice in your magnanimous 'first post' (thanks for gracing this thread with your presence btw) the I would still be grinding CD for the 253'rd time and still wondering why the deed hadn't updated.

    You were certainly the first to draw the 'personal attack' sword with your generalisied accusations of my kinmates and my posts being a whinge at lotro and it's GM's, rather than criticism of sub-standard customer service and content design. Again nothing of value in you doing so.

    So that discredits two of your 1779 posts...I really wonder just how many more of those serve any purpose? Of course your gross hubris would prevent you from EVER seeing another persons point of view, so I tell you what - why don't you have the 'last say' by responding to this post and prove to the lotro community just how much out of my depth I am (ha ha ha ha ha) and how much of a bigger forum troll you are than yours truly, as from this point forward I will be not posting any further here.
    Ahhhh the old, "I'll let you have the final word because I'm sure you're desperate for it" line. I've used it many times myself, it's quite effective but also totally transparent. You might as well stick your fingers in your ears and scream "na na na na, I'm not listening". You want the final word, you crave it, you are just hoping I won't post a response because I might "prove you right". Lol. Sorry but these games are a waste of time, I see right through them.

    You've obviously formed some opinion of me based on superimposing your own intonation and intent into the words I've typed. That's not my problem, that's yours and you have to deal with it. If you call me out though and start calling me names, then expect a response...

    The first post I made is simply sharing MY experience. Sorry if that bothers you, I didn't realise I wasn't allowed to. I must have misinterpreted the meaning of "public forum". And if wishing people luck with a grind is tantamount to discrediting my post then you're clearly setting yourself very high standards and are bound to be disappointed. Who made you the judge and jury anyway? So you don't like or agree with what's written in my posts, fine, I can deal with that, but you presume to conclude that there is nothing of value in my posts or that they must be entirely discredited. And I'm the one being accused in this thread of having a huge ego (I don't deny this, but people might want to take a look at themselves before they start throwing accusations around). You're a joke.

    If you want to talk about seeing other peoples points of view, then maybe you should begin by trying it yourself. Understand that you have no idea who I am or anything about me. You don't know the context with which I wrote my posts, the tone in which the words followed in my mind as I typed them. You just assume. You assume and jump to assinine conclusions. Even as you read this, you're probably (an assumption of my own) assuming that I'm angry or being aggressive, which couldn't be further from the truth.

    By the way, do you know what the word "IF" means. Go back and read my posts. Go back and read the so called generalisations and accusations I have made about you and your kin. Notice how I use the word IF in context to a simple question I have asked and how any derogatory or negative comments I make follow a special word called "THEN". Is that an attack? If I said to you that "If you kill someone, then you are a murderer", does that also mean that I called you a murderer? Would you start waxing lyrical about how I "called you a murderer" and thus disrespected you, your family and all the cute kittens in the world and then start calling me names. No you wouldn't. That would be what a slightly unhinged person would do. So tell me, why exactly are you doing that with my the posts I made previously?

    You're the bad guy here I'm afraid. All I did was first post my own personal experience and wish you luck, and then post a question and my opinion on the matter I had asked about. My opinion might be extreme and you might not agree with it, but I am most certainly entitled to it and entitled to express it. Don't agree with that? Then there are plenty of more repressive countries you can move to which celebrate your values of censorship and mud-slinging.

    I do hope you actually stick to your words and don't waste my time with anymore of your nonsense. My worry is that you'll whine a little bit to your friends and "convince" them (implicitly of course, because asking outright would just be pathetic) to come out and speak on your behalf. Oh well, as long as they don't harbour any personal attacks or call me out specifically, they won't illicit a response from me because this is getting tiresome.

    Grats on your title (and probably horse) btw.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Pibob314,
    Thank you for my new word of the day asinine it's not as cool as defenestration but it's close.

    Xulf

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    sitting at the gates of CD reading this thread, laughing about how angry people are getting about this silly little deed, contemplating whether i should go to bed or kill a couple more slugs hoping to get an ugly horse. i went to the sewers, killed 1 slug and......A new Title has been bestowed upon you, you may now be known as Lieutenant Laferty, Slug-wrangler!

    it was one of the large slugs btw. so step in some more slug poo! you will get your horsey!

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    Talking Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Hehe, i was thinking about starting some toons on E, but you people sound worse than Vilyans.

    I say;

    FISHES FROM 50 PACES AT DAWN!!!!
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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by RusselDog View Post
    Hehe, i was thinking about starting some toons on E, but you people sound worse than Vilyans.
    I'd rather be a hEro than a Vilyan...


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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by RusselDog View Post
    Hehe, i was thinking about starting some toons on E, but you people sound worse than Vilyans.

    I say;

    FISHES FROM 50 PACES AT DAWN!!!!
    Who says I play on E?

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Just in case others were confused by the distraction.

    We have since proved and concluded that u need "Shire slug deeds" done in order to unlock the secret Slug deed in CD.
    Just in case anyone else is having trouble.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spudman View Post
    Just in case others were confused by the distraction.

    We have since proved and concluded that u need "Shire slug deeds" done in order to unlock the secret Slug deed in CD.
    Just in case anyone else is having trouble.
    Really? All the "proof" I've seen is someone saying that 2 runs after doing the shire slug slayer deed, they finished slug-wrangler. It took me far more than 2 runs of CD to finish the slug wrangler deed back in the day and I had the shire slug slayer deed completed since probably book 9 (vol 1).

    I have a feeling that you had been making progress in the deed before doing the shire slug slayer deed and you just happened to be two runs away from completing it before you went off to do the shire slug slayer.

    Now, if you'd like to reproduce this result by taking a character who has never set foot inside CD before but HAS done the shire slug slayer and then complete slug wrangler with that character in no more than 2 runs, then I will take all of what I have said back.

    I'm not saying that you are categorically wrong about this, just that you have by no means "proved or concluded" anything. Of course, if a dev or someone like that could come out and tell us catergorically which way it is now (it's quite possible that the deed has been changed since when I did it, not sure how that would work though if someone had previously made some progress in the slug wrangler but hadn't completed whatever the pre-req was), then that would be the end of the matter also.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by pibob314 View Post
    Now, if you'd like to reproduce this result by taking a character who has never set foot inside CD before but HAS done the shire slug slayer and then complete slug wrangler with that character in no more than 2 runs, then I will take all of what I have said back.
    Minstrel in my kin has been doing CD for years.

    Yesterday, he killed 100 slugs. He kept count (and had a stack of 99 corrosive droplets). He did not get the deed.

    He went to the shire. He killed 90 slugs.

    He went back to CD, he killed 100 more slugs (and got 99 more corrosive droplets). He got the deed (and his horse.)

    I want my "The Venomous" title back.

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    Re: Slug-wrangler title in Carn Dum.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spudman View Post
    Just in case others were confused by the distraction.

    We have since proved and concluded that u need "Shire slug deeds" done in order to unlock the secret Slug deed in CD.
    Just in case anyone else is having trouble.
    I find that to be a tad frustrating. I was grinding this slug deed back at level 50 in Shadows of Angmar and concluded that I just couldn't get it for some reason (my original post supposed it was because I was an Elf or something, and was made long before this new "horses for deeds" thing). Now I find out I need to go kill 14 slugs in the Shire first, after literally killing hundreds upon hundreds of slugs in Carn Dum.

    Ah well. It actually seems obvious that I should have finished all my Shire slugs first, now that I think about it. And yes, my Burglar slots Determination, so she had it, while my Minstrel doesn't, so I never bothered. OK, back to the Shire I go, then... on to Carn Dum! Thank you to the people who found out from the GM that there was a prereq deed!
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