Discussion: Mounts

So, i decided that I wanted to collect all possible mounts in-game (especially since they don't take up an inventory spot now )

I wanted to pseudo-verify the list of all mounts in-game, so I went to the lorebook. Well, i was shocked to see that there are no mounts in the lorebook. They're not there as skills, and they're not there as items. Where are they? Were they there before the lorebook update this week?

Also, along the same lines, the following search produces no results:

Advanced Search --> Item (tab) --> Other (radio button) --> Mounts (checkbox) NOTE: everything else is left blank/unchanged --> Submit

That produces no results... which prompts the question, "Why is the Mounts checkbox there?"

Clarification would be appreciated, thx

Envoyé par ScrappyTheGreat

So, i decided that I wanted to collect all possible mounts in-game (especially since they don't take up an inventory spot now )

I wanted to pseudo-verify the list of all mounts in-game, so I went to the lorebook. Well, i was shocked to see that there are no mounts in the lorebook. They're not there as skills, and they're not there as items. Where are they? Were they there before the lorebook update this week?

Also, along the same lines, the following search produces no results:

Advanced Search --> Item (tab) --> Other (radio button) --> Mounts (checkbox) NOTE: everything else is left blank/unchanged --> Submit

That produces no results... which prompts the question, "Why is the Mounts checkbox there?"

Clarification would be appreciated, thx

They were there before; you must have spooked them!

We'll have to check w/the dev team and see if we should be displaying them as items (again), skills, or both.

Hmm.. We've got Wardens of Annuminas, Forochel, Moria Goat, Lorien Horse, Volume 1 Horse, PvMP rank 9 horse. Don't know if there are others... Does council of the north have a horse? Now there's the mirkwood kindred horse and the Horse from deed completion. (Vol 2 completion)?

There is a council of the north rep horse, and now a bree rep horse and mirkwood rep horse.

Envoyé par Duwis

They were there before; you must have spooked them!

We'll have to check w/the dev team and see if we should be displaying them as items (again), skills, or both.

Sry for spookin em I'll give them a cookie if they come back... a black and white cookie would be appropriately delicious i think!

Envoyé par geoboy

Does council of the north have a horse?

Yes, it's a speckledy grayish horse. (and thx for listing those out, I missed the deed completion one on my personal list)

What are the requirements on the deed completion one, anyone know? I've only seen vague references.

Slow Bree Horse
Adventure Pack Goat
L35 normal horses
Wardens of Annuminas Rep
Forochel Rep
Council of the North Rep
Fall Festival (Harvathmeth or something)
Winter Festival (blue blanket)
Spring Festival (green blanket)
PvMP Rank 9 Black horse
Volume 1 White horse

Moria Rep Goat - Slow
Moria Rep Goat - Fast
Lothlorien Rep
Mirkwood Rep

Deed completion - ? I haven't heard about this one, so not sure.

Those are the ones I can think of off hand.

Envoyé par Big_H

Deed completion - ? I haven't heard about this one, so not sure.

For completing all the deeds and challenge modes in the Dol Guldur instances (well, all except the Sword-halls), a player is awarded:

I have been building a up-to-date guide to middle earth steeds.. i keep it as updated as possible... hope you like it..:-)

http://www.statesmanswatch.com/lotro/horses01.html

Ride safe..:-)

Calddir Nenharma

Envoyé par Ar-Feiniel

I have been building a up-to-date guide to middle earth steeds.. i keep it as updated as possible... hope you like it..:-)

http://www.statesmanswatch.com/lotro/horses01.html

Ride safe..:-)

Calddir Nenharma

Amazing guide - nice pictures too

Envoyé par Big_H

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Building off of that, I think this is the definitive list:

Founder's/early Lifetime Bree Horse
Adventurer's Pack Bree Horse

4 level 35 horses (Bay, Bloodbay, Blond Sorrel, Chestnut)

Wardens of Annuminas Rep (Dark Chestnut)
Forochel Rep (Tundra)
Council of the North Rep (Ashen)
Bree Rep Liver (Chestnut)

Fall Harvestmath Festival (dark with orange saddle)
Winter Yule Festival (vibrant blue blanket)
Snowy Winter Yule Festival (dark blue blanket)
Summer Lithe Festival (green blanket)

PvMP Rank 9 (Mahogany)

Volume 1 horse (called Grey, but looks White)

Lothlorien Rep (Grey)
Mirkwood Rep (Smoky Black)

Dol Goldur Deed completion (called War-steed, but it looks White)

Moria Rep Goat - Slow (Tame)
Moria Rep Goat - Fast (Dusky)
Adventurer's Pack Slow Goat

That's 22 mounts. Although, we did this in /glff the other night and I think we came up to 23 mounts, so I might be missing one. Also, the level 25 Adventurer's Pack Bree Mount is indeed different from the Founder's level 25 Bree Mount (although functionally identical, it is a different mount -- I have them both listed in my mount skill area).

It's alot of work to get the Dunedain war horse for completion of all the CD, BG and Uru instances, so unless you like the look of it, you might want to rethink going for all possible mounts.

Envoyé par Dol_Amroth_Knight

Reviving this idea:

There is a lorebook category for mounts here:
http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Category:Mounts

I've updated it with the mounts that I have, but there are still a great many mounts out there that are not in the lorebook. If anyone feels the urge to add pictures, please do so and help keep the lorebook updated.

Envoyé par Reillan

Reviving this idea:

There is a lorebook category for mounts here:
http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Category:Mounts

I've updated it with the mounts that I have, but there are still a great many mounts out there that are not in the lorebook. If anyone feels the urge to add pictures, please do so and help keep the lorebook updated.

hmm I've got a few of those, I'll see if I can get some screenies tonight-this weekend.

Envoyé par Reillan

Reviving this idea:

There is a lorebook category for mounts here:
http://lorebook.lotro.com/wiki/Category:Mounts

I've updated it with the mounts that I have, but there are still a great many mounts out there that are not in the lorebook. If anyone feels the urge to add pictures, please do so and help keep the lorebook updated.

this place does it better...and loads faster...

http://www.statesmanswatch.com/lotro/horses01.html

Hey Duwis:
Any chance we could get a name normalization pass on the Lorebook and in game? Pretty please

Speaking for mounts specifically; there are three variations on mount names, all which refer to the same animal (sort of), these are in game also. It adds an extra layer of confusion, along with more clutter.

Around when they changed the mounts to skills they changed the individual Horse and Pony items to generic "Steed", removing the confusion of buying the wrong mount for your race. But all the old Horse and Pony names are still on the existing in-game skills, along with the Lorebook database.

So no more 'Chestnut Horse', 'Chestnut Pony', and 'Chestnut Steed'. Just a single 'Chestnut Steed'


Also, why are some mounts missing from the Lorebook altogether? PvMP steed, Bree rep steed, and Mirkwood rep steed, are the ones I've found so far. Plus all the meta deed mounts.

Envoyé par Darej

this place does it better...and loads faster...

http://www.statesmanswatch.com/lotro/horses01.html

Yes, but that's not a complete list, and the community has no way to update it to make sure it remains updated. It puts all the stress on one person. While Darzil has been great at keeping armour up-to-date, it's still a hard thing to do.

Plus, people have to know about the statesmanswatch page. The lorebook is a natural resource for players to turn to.

Envoyé par Reillan

Yes, but that's not a complete list, and the community has no way to update it to make sure it remains updated. It puts all the stress on one person. While Darzil has been great at keeping armour up-to-date, it's still a hard thing to do.

Plus, people have to know about the statesmanswatch page. The lorebook is a natural resource for players to turn to.

Updating this thing makes me wish I was a completionist on at least ONE of my characters so much alt hopping... plus I'm still missing a few festival mounts

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If anyone has pictures of:

Bree-land Starter Steed (level 20)
Bloodbay (basic mount)
Bay (basic)
Chestnut (basic mount)
PvMP mount
the four meta deed mounts
Bree Rep mount
Tame Moria Goat (level 51, Friend)
Galadhrim rep
Mirkwood rep mount
Winter Fest mount with the fancy snowflakes

that we can add to the Lorebook (or you can add), that'd be wonderful. I don't want to steal the images off Calddir's wonderful Steeds Guide, and the above are the pictures that either weren't already up on the LB or that I don't have myself.
Also if anyone has the data to fill in the gaps on my table, that'd be a help too

Envoyé par Reillan

Yes, but that's not a complete list, and the community has no way to update it to make sure it remains updated. It puts all the stress on one person. While Darzil has been great at keeping armour up-to-date, it's still a hard thing to do.

Plus, people have to know about the statesmanswatch page. The lorebook is a natural resource for players to turn to.

um..only thing missing that i can see is the new Lithe fest ride.

and its WAY more complete then the lorebook...

as for folks knowing about it...well more do then you might think...i and other do link to it whenever a question about horses comes up.

and actually going to a internet site for info is WAY more natural then going to the lorebook.

maybe someday it will be...but lets take a look at the horses in the lore book vs the page at Family Neharma...

Family Neharma - link take you to one page...pics of each horse and info on where and how to get it.

info on many other things about riding in lotro and other horse related info

page loads real quick

Lore book - once it loads...if it loads....you have a list of horses...no pics

you have to clik on each and every link to see what the horse looks like and maybe some info on it is...




more then a few are not there...

Envoyé par Darej

more then a few are not there...

That's why I mentioned to people that the lorebook is there so they can upload their pics...

the lorebook is a community effort, which means that if something isn't there, it's easy to fix.

Envoyé par Reillan

the lorebook is a community effort, which means that if something isn't there, it's easy to fix.

QFT I mean why isn't the lorebook the go to? cause we haven't made it worth it yet. I mean I would love to add stuff in I've thought about it but between two part time jobs university courses I don't want to spend my off time editing the lorebook instead of playing lotro. call me selfish

In my eyes if you work on the lorebook you should be applauded for taking time out to make the lorebook better. Not told there is a better site for it.

My two cents anyway.
Goneric

Envoyé par gonewhaned

QFT I mean why isn't the lorebook the go to? cause we haven't made it worth it yet. I mean I would love to add stuff in I've thought about it but between two part time jobs university courses I don't want to spend my off time editing the lorebook instead of playing lotro. call me selfish

In my eyes if you work on the lorebook you should be applauded for taking time out to make the lorebook better. Not told there is a better site for it.

My two cents anyway.
Goneric

my main issue with the lorebook is it is soooo slow to load.

also...it is not always user friendly....look at the fmaily neharma link for mounts...one page...loads fast..scrolls down...lotsa pics.

look up mounts in the lore book..takes a bit...then you have umpteen entries of just name link to other slow loading pages.

why cant it be one page with pics?

Im a new player and i was wondering how i get my first mount. Can someone give me some information on that?

If you're F2P or Premium or VIP (everyone), you can buy the riding skill in the store (minimum level: 5). After that you can buy a horse.

If you're a VIP and wait until level 20, you don't have to buy the riding skill in the store, you can go up to Hengstacer Farm above Bree, do a quest, get the riding skill, then buy a horse.

A horse costs a few gold (a few thousand silver). You can also buy a horse in the store, although store-bought are usually not quite as good as the ones you can get in the game.

Envoyé par Banaticus

A horse costs a few gold (a few thousand silver). You can also buy a horse in the store, although store-bought are usually not quite as good as the ones you can get in the game.

Rep horses cost that much (4-6 gold). Regular Hengstacer Farm horses start at 500 silver (200 silver for VIP). I believe the price drops to 200s after the first purchase (per character) if you want a varied stable to choose from.