Having recently done a couple experiments into the drop rate for crit regs, Ive got a little bit of data on Copper/Tin ratios.
Whilst I can appreciate both the RNG and factors such as other people mining, these are the results I came up with.
My first experiemtn involved simply collecting 200 T1 Ore. I gathered - Copper/Tin (201 total - 159 Copper/42 Tin). This gives tin 20.89% drop rate. So basically 1:5.
My second experiment involved harvesting 100 T1 nodes. I gathered:
100 T1 ORE NODES / 228 ORE (180COPPER/48TIN)
77% Copper (incl Rich nodes)
23% Tin (incl Rich nodes)
87% Standard Node --> 74.7% Copper / 26.3% Tin
13% Rich Node --> 84.6% Copper / 15.4% Tin
So, the ratio for total nodes in better than total yield.
But, as someone else mentioned, and I agree 100%, the RNG is master over all. Sometimes you get lucky, other times it feels like the RNG is working against you. It isnt.
As a side note, all of my harvesting was done in Chetwood and Midgewater Marshes. It took roughly 2 hours to harvest 100 nodes (could have been less, but I was collecting data on every node as I went).
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People have been short-sighted and ignorant for a lot longer than that.
Haha, true. I guess I was thinking this was a recent problem and one that would be fixed shortly. The fact that it has been going on for over a year makes me think it will continue.
I don't know if the update changed the tin/copper ratio, or if there is just less people on now, but midgewater marshes is filled with Tin now. I was there yesterday and today finishing up some slayer deeds and there was tin all over the place.
If you only harvest the tin, then sooner or later there is only copper left.
If you harvest everything you find, then the RNG can work more to supply tin.
I try to keep that in mind. If I'm out harvesting, I grab everything out there. It all sells, one way or another. If I cherry pick, then I just make the tin scarcer. Kind of a pay it forward thing. I harvest everything now, and the next person gets tin. Hopefully the person before me mined all the nodes they could so there is a better respawn.
If you only harvest the tin, then sooner or later there is only copper left.
If you harvest everything you find, then the RNG can work more to supply tin.
I try to keep that in mind. If I'm out harvesting, I grab everything out there. It all sells, one way or another. If I cherry pick, then I just make the tin scarcer. Kind of a pay it forward thing. I harvest everything now, and the next person gets tin. Hopefully the person before me mined all the nodes they could so there is a better respawn.
This ^^
there were 5 nodes, at one time out in the Midgewater a day ago, on my server, so someone was out harvesting Two were "rich" as well, which is really nice. The thing with tin is truly just perserverance.
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Pretty random, but SUPER cheap on the AH if you really need it.
What AH do you go to??? I've been to Thorin's and Bree and NEVER found cheap tin (and believe me I look CONSTANTLY).
People at the AH charge ridiculous amount - 2 chunks of tin ore for 70 sp? 100 for 1 gp? how do you figure that's cheap?
You do realize, don't you, that you quoted a statement from March 2009, which is nearly 2 years old? When the statement was made a full stack of ore was 50 (not 100 like now) and tin was very cheap (varies from server to server, of course). On Silverlode a stack of Copper Ore would sell very well at 300s buyout but Tin Ore would not at half that price. You could get more for Tin Ore by vendoring it than you could selling on the AH. Much has changed over the past 2 years.
Also, it doesn't matter which AH you go to. They all access the same items. It's one system.
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since tin is so hard to find, if you are looking to improve your crafting to the next level in anything requiring bronze this is what i suggest. complete every crafting tutorial and leave yourself with 21 apprentice ingredient bags, then you only need 80 points of experience to continue to journyman.