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    PvMP Server Stats

    Okay. So I'm a nerd. And I like statistics.

    So here are some stats base off the the learderboards all collected together and put in one spot.

    LOTRO PvMP Server Stats

    There are two sets of data here: All the players since the beginning of lotro. And all the players that have engaged in pvp this week (meaning they earned inf/renown). I'm only actually counted players at rank 5 or higher. So that limits some of the data accuracy, but I think it's close enough and still give a nice over view of each server's player base.

    Let me know what you think, post any trends that see note worth and try to keep the flaming to a minimum.
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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Kinda nicely sorted info there.

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Wow, very nice charts! Must have taken forever!

    That's funny though... freeps have made over 2 HUNDRED MILLION more renown than creeps.

    Discouraging, much?

    Also, hunters have made about 2 HUNDRED MILLION RENOWN all by themselves. LOOK AT IT TURBINE, LOOK AT IT!
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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    to show some props for my home server i wish this included the total number of players. in which case firefoot would have the highest % of pvpers. thus making us the official pvp server
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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Lol look how many hunters there are in comparison to other classes.

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    lol Brandywine = Major Lag I bet. Seems a bit crowded for PvP. :/
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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Well done, really cool.

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Excellent stuff,

    Very clear and easy to read, if sad as far as creeps side goes.
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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Nice work.

    I'd be interested to see the first table divided into pre and post mom.

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    gogo Nimrodel and Gladden. Outnumbered the last week and still took away more infamy then renown they gave up

    some of the servers looked really rough with freeps getting 2.5 times for renown then the creeps did infamy


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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by BIZL View Post
    gogo Nimrodel and Gladden. Outnumbered the last week and still took away more infamy then renown they gave up

    some of the servers looked really rough with freeps getting 2.5 times for renown then the creeps did infamy


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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Great info, thank you so much!


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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by Perfectlotus View Post
    Kinda nicely sorted info there.
    Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCrusher View Post
    Wow, very nice charts! Must have taken forever!
    It didn't take that long. Just some scripting and debugging to get the info into a database. Once it was there making the different charts was easy.

    Quote Originally Posted by fallenhalo View Post
    to show some props for my home server i wish this included the total number of players. in which case firefoot would have the highest % of pvpers. thus making us the official pvp server
    I'd be cool to see actual server populations. But I don't Turbine has any interest in sharing that.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_blah View Post
    lol Brandywine = Major Lag I bet. Seems a bit crowded for PvP. :/
    Yeah Brandywine does complete blow away the other servers in terms of total players. But if you look at active players they are actualy pretty close with Elendilmir. And then everything else is around the 200 range.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chav View Post
    Nice work.

    I'd be interested to see the first table divided into pre and post mom.
    I'd like to see that too. But they only made this data avaiable after Moria was released so not too much chance of that sadly.

    Quote Originally Posted by BIZL View Post
    gogo Nimrodel and Gladden. Outnumbered the last week and still took away more infamy then renown they gave up

    some of the servers looked really rough with freeps getting 2.5 times for renown then the creeps did infamy
    Definitely an impressive feat.

    Quote Originally Posted by Garett0439 View Post
    Great info, thank you so much!
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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by XavierBlak View Post
    Yeah Brandywine does complete blow away the other servers in terms of total players. But if you look at active players they are actualy pretty close with Elendilmir. And then everything else is around the 200 range.
    We have the closest inf/renown spread and almost as many active players.

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by Sezneg View Post
    We have the closest inf/renown spread and almost as many active players.
    Go E creeps!

    no you don't...gladden and nimrodel actually have more infamy then renown in the last week

    and it looks like meneldor took the all time with a 1:1.2 creep to freep

    Note: it's almost 6am and i haven't slept...so I may be reading your comment incorrectly lol

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by XavierBlak View Post
    Okay. So I'm a nerd. And I like statistics.

    So here are some stats base off the the learderboards all collected together and put in one spot.

    LOTRO PvMP Server Stats

    There are two sets of data here: All the players since the beginning of lotro. And all the players that have engaged in pvp this week (meaning they earned inf/renown). I'm only actually counted players at rank 5 or higher. So that limits some of the data accuracy, but I think it's close enough and still give a nice over view of each server's player base.

    Let me know what you think, post any trends that see note worth and try to keep the flaming to a minimum.
    Nice work...interesting results. May I ask what your ratings formula is?
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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by BIZL View Post
    no you don't...gladden and nimrodel actually have more infamy then renown in the last week

    and it looks like meneldor took the all time with a 1:1.2 creep to freep

    Note: it's almost 6am and i haven't slept...so I may be reading your comment incorrectly lol

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    I was going by all time ratings, not the statistical noise of week to week ;D

    But you're right, I didn't notice the 1:1.2, it was late.


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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    I was thinking about how I calculated the inf/renown numbers for the last week and I realized it was completely wrong. Sorry guys. I was totaling the inf/renown of all active players instead of just what they had earned with in the last week. I've updated the calculations and the numbers make more sense now.

    Sadly, despite what it looked like before, no server came out with creeps earning more inf/renown than freeps. Elendilmir and Vilya being fairly close and most other servers close to a 1 to 2 ratio.

    Quote Originally Posted by barichr View Post
    Nice work...interesting results. May I ask what your ratings formula is?
    I'm just doing an average based off what is provided on the leader board. So summing the rating and then dividing by the amount of players that were part of that sum.
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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Only 2 less active creeps than freeps in the past week, second best inf/renown ratio, more creeps logging in than the famed brandywine and Landroval... and almost 200k more inf/renown in the week than any other server.

    E just comes out looking like roses.


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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Does this update itself Micheal or do you have to update it?

    Nice to have everything broken down like that in an easy format

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    You really should have this archive the weekly result once a week so we can track trends.


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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    I love the BS ploy people use that creeps outnumber the freeps and that's why they are less powerful. Seems to me on most servers the freep population doubles the creep population... LMAO.

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Very cool info ya got there, well done!
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    LOL, hunters have so much more renown than any freep or creep class, they are so OP =P

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by DDM764 View Post
    Does this update itself Micheal or do you have to update it?

    Nice to have everything broken down like that in an easy format
    It doesn't update itself but at this point. There is still a little manual work involved but I should be able to automate it with out too much more work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sezneg View Post
    You really should have this archive the weekly result once a week so we can track trends.
    That's the plan. I'll probably do an update ever Friday for a while. We'll see how long I keep doing it for. Currently I'm grabbing silverlode (my home server) each day so I can look at trends on certain days of the week.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spacmanbobr View Post
    I love the BS ploy people use that creeps outnumber the freeps and that's why they are less powerful. Seems to me on most servers the freep population doubles the creep population... LMAO.
    Yeah that's one of the reasons I did this I was curious as to what the actual break down of freep and creep population and class break down.

    Edit:
    I was playing around with the data and I thought it'd be cool to post the top inf/renown earners from last week.
    For Freeps Heindrick from Firefoot with 30421 renown gained.
    For Creeps Gii from Elendilmir with 23694 infamy gained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierBlak View Post
    For Creeps Gii from Elendilmir with 23694 infamy gained.
    Epic win Gii, for pulling this off with his novel strategy for what is otherwise a ranged standoff.


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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by XavierBlak View Post
    It doesn't update itself but at this point. There is still a little manual work involved but I should be able to automate it with out too much more work.



    That's the plan. I'll probably do an update ever Friday for a while. We'll see how long I keep doing it for. Currently I'm grabbing silverlode (my home server) each day so I can look at trends on certain days of the week.



    Yeah that's one of the reasons I did this I was curious as to what the actual break down of freep and creep population and class break down.

    Edit:
    I was playing around with the data and I thought it'd be cool to post the top inf/renown earners from last week.
    For Freeps Heindrick from Firefoot with 30421 renown gained.
    For Creeps Gii from Elendilmir with 23694 infamy gained.
    It makes sense. Our server is the worst for creeps, LOL. We almost have a 1:3 ratio :\

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Gentlemen!!! I propose a sticky!!!

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Fascinating work!

    I hope the devs are datamining as well as you are!!!!!!!
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    Thanks for hard data we hope the devs actually use!

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    This should be stickied and quoted in every thread where a freep complains about anything.

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by XavierBlak View Post
    Okay. So I'm a nerd.
    Ha ha. You nerd. =Þ
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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    It does make you question the idea that "there are more creeps than freeps" mentality about why freeps are left more powerful.

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Hey stat fans. I've gotta an update for you. I've updated with the data for this week. Plus as an extra bonus I added what I'm calling an Active Leaderboard.

    Basically it's the same leaderboard we all know and love. But with all of those nasty inactive players pulled out. Right now it's limited to only showing the top 50 of a specific query. But as I get a chance I'll add some more filtering in. It also shows infamy earned for that period so you can keep tabs on what you've done from week to week.

    Thanks for the support guys. And I have to mention that I did enjoy the "Warg Pounce still ~100% hit rate" thread up in the Creeps forum. I'm glad these stats could be used for good to shut that troll down. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierBlak View Post
    Hey stat fans. I've gotta an update for you. I've updated with the data for this week. Plus as an extra bonus I added what I'm calling an Active Leaderboard.

    Basically it's the same leaderboard we all know and love. But with all of those nasty inactive players pulled out. Right now it's limited to only showing the top 50 of a specific query. But as I get a chance I'll add some more filtering in. It also shows infamy earned for that period so you can keep tabs on what you've done from week to week.

    Thanks for the support guys. And I have to mention that I did enjoy the "Warg Pounce still ~100% hit rate" thread up in the Creeps forum. I'm glad these stats could be used for good to shut that troll down. :P
    That's great, X. Thanks a ton for all your hard work!

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    It looks like some of my data might be off for this week. Specifically Brandywine. I'll check it out tomorrow.
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    Wow, I really dig the new update, very cool. You're bringing even more honor to our great name.

    Seeing how much infamy people have made each week is pretty insightful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XavierVE1 View Post
    Wow, I really dig the new update, very cool. You're bringing even more honor to our great name.

    Seeing how much infamy people have made each week is pretty insightful.
    LOL at me making 20K+ a week on a post-MoM spider. I must really hate myself.


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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    hey cool I got the second most infamy on my server and I only played that toon for a few days last week lol.

    Damn prep had me beat though. 22k to 27k. No wonder he's rank 10 and Im not But hey we both beat all the freeps too

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by Sezneg View Post
    LOL at me making 20K+ a week on a post-MoM spider. I must really hate myself.
    jesus, I played my spider for 3 days this week, I just checked the leaderboard and he racked up just under 4k infamy...Then again that was me trying to solo freeps as a MoM spider...

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    Re: PvMP Server Stats

    Quote Originally Posted by XavierBlak View Post
    It looks like some of my data might be off for this week. Specifically Brandywine. I'll check it out tomorrow.
    I take back what I said. All the data looks right. Just keep in mind the first set of data "1/19 - 1/23" is only Monday to Friday so it's missing the weekend. The second set "1/24 - 1/29" is a full weeks worth of data and therefore is much higher.
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