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    Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    I use windows xp pro sp3 and can only dual box with one account on one user, the other account on another user and switching, I could never get the two accounts on one user albeit in two different locations to work so I can't alt-tab because i still get the socket warning even after changing line in ini

    but this is the info I gathered for my kin site

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    from: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=117263

    author: stratospaly

    You can 2box on 1 computer, quite easily. XP PC'S

    I will stress 2GB of ram is a MUST! A decent video card is good also, but I still get 25-30fps while 2boxing. This also only works on windows XP. You must have 2 accounts. Before doing this, log in and click "windowed mode" then log back out.

    1) go to c:/programfiles/turbine (or wherever your lotro is installed, NOT THE FILE IN MY DOCUMENTS!) Copy the "lord of the rings online" folder.

    2) paste that folder to your desktop

    3) rename the folder "lord of the rings online2"

    4) go inside that folder and find "turbine launcher", right click and "create shortcut"

    5) drag that shortcut to the desktop.

    Now, you must click both "turbine launcher, gold rings" before logging in! You will get 2 login screens. Put one account info in one, and the other account info in the other.

    Log in.

    You can now alt+tab between the programs, no problem. I also use a G15 for things like /follow.

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    Can this be done in Vista?

    Not the way I listed. I am not sure you would want to, even if you could.
    Vista would need 2 8800GTs and 8GB of ram!


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    Q Originally Posted by Hellrazor1 View Post
    Okay... and is there a way to use your keyboard 2 accounts at once i.e. click the same icon on two different accounts/windows at the same time?


    A by pyrostasis

    Yes there are a variety of ways to control 2 accounts (or more) with one keyboard. www.dual-boxing.com is a community of folks that enjoy running anywhere from 2 - 24 accounts at a time all controlled by one keyboard.

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    You can use a G15 to macro, and yes. It is legal.

    Question/Topic

    Can I use my Logitech G15 Keyboard or other advanced input peripheral with LOTRO?

    Answer/Article

    Yes! Players may use any standard hardware input device and associated software with the game. The device may be used to remap UI functions and even automate frequently used key sequences. It may not be used as an aid for unattended gameplay, automated gameplay, or any other use which violates our End-User License agreements. To view the LOTRO End User License Agreement, click HERE.

    this info was taken from this page http://www.lotro.com/index.php?page_id=126

    I would assume this is the same for any multibox program.

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    post by Boxer->

    I use Vista, and the basic steps of copying the Lord of the Rings directory and then launching both Launchers, and then logging in one at time worked for me.

    I took it a step or two further though, eventually:
    a) create a new user (e.g. Test)
    b) Start Menu->Games
    c) Right Click on the LOTRO Icon and choose Customize
    d) Select Play command 2 and choose - add
    e) For the location, I added the runas command, with my user switch, and the directory of the copied game:
    C:\Windows\System32\runas.exe /user:Test "C:\Program Files\Turbine\The Lord of the Rings Online - Copy\TurbineLauncher.exe"
    f) click Next, add an alias like "LOTRO-dual", and Finish

    more by Sisl

    I also use Vista, and I can work with same method as described when needed.

    1. Two different copies of folder
    2. Two different icons of "TurbineLauncher.exe" from their respective folder.

    If you have come to both of their "Username/passwrod" screen, you can open them both anytime...

    However, when you write you user/pass and login to game, you can't fireoff second client if it was not already in user/pass screen.

    EDIT: I will repeat misconfused part

    1. This is Vista, you don't need "another user" account and assuming you are on account with administrator privilages.
    2. Install Lord of the Rings first. I recommend secondary harddrive like D:\Lord of the Rings
    3. Copy entire Lord of the Rings to again like D:\Lord of the Rings - Copy
    4. Now you will have two folders
    5. Create shortcuts from each directory from "TurbineLauncher.exe"
    6. Make sure game is in "Windowed mode"
    7. Run both till they come to user/pass screen.

    more by disposable hero->

    Doesn't it figure... As soon as I post about this, I figure it out.

    Here's what worked for me. Perhaps it will work for others...

    In your UserPreferences.ini file (which should be located in your Documents\The Lord Of The Rings Online folder) look for the section [Net] and look for the line:

    ComputeUniquePort=True

    Change it to:

    ComputeUniquePort=False

    Save the file and try starting 2 clients again. It worked for me. I'm running 2 in Vista right now. I'm curious to know if this will work for others as well.

    I have no idea if the performance will be usable at all. But it's working. So I can do character maintenance and pass inventory between characters while working on spreadsheets and databases

    This does two things:
    1) when you right click on the original lotro icon, you get a drop down option to launch the secondary instance, so you don't have to have two icons there
    2) the second instance is automatically run as a different user, which means it uses a different set of configuration files, so you can have different launcher window locations, different default usernames, and different graphical settings... you have to enter a password, but it's worth it, IMO

    I may set up another link to the main install (ie do the above again with command 3, but remove " - Copy", so that I can have a "solo" setup where it is full screen, 100% graphics, etc, and a "dual" setup w/limited graphics on both... I might also add a 3rd user so I can 3 sets of settings (solo, dual-main, dual-secondary), but probably won't since I really only use it to trade between accounts and ferry around people

    Mainly the forum is for WoW, but there are gamers on there that play other games as well.

    Your choices are hardware or software.

    With hardware you can get a KVM or Vetra.... or invest in wireless keyboards and just use one keyboard with all receivers targeted to the one keyboard.

    There are also a variety of software options that are drastically cheaper to free. Keyclone is the main tool of choice for WoW players.

    Now... Im not sure what LOTRO stance is on this, I know of 4 folks who use keyclone to multibox LOTRO and they havent gotten into trouble. I know in WoW, EQ2, and DAOC its fine, but Multiboxing is completely up to the devs if its legal or not.

    One would have to ask them

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    I appreciate the response, but I'm sorry you had to post that whole mess of info. The issue is not relating two getting two clients running, I've already achieved that. The issue is having both clients be responsive to inputs while not in the foreground. I amended my post as I see that Lavish now supports LOTRO with some of it's programs so I am going to try them out again to see if they function with two clients.

    Currently nothing else on the market supports two clients on one machine with LOTRO for key inputs (such as keyclone, autohotkey, repeater, etc). LOTRO doesn't recognize commands send to ID's not in the foreground. Unlike just about any other game on the market. E.G. WoW, EQ, EQ2, EVE, COV, COH, SWG, AOC, WAR, etc all.
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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazulan View Post
    LOTRO doesn't recognize commands send to ID's not in the foreground. Unlike just about any other game on the market. E.G. WoW, EQ, EQ2, EVE, COV, COH, SWG, AOC, WAR, etc all.
    yep, add DDO to the not work list as well

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazulan View Post
    Currently nothing else on the market supports two clients on one machine with LOTRO for key inputs (such as keyclone, autohotkey, repeater, etc). LOTRO doesn't recognize commands send to ID's not in the foreground. Unlike just about any other game on the market. E.G. WoW, EQ, EQ2, EVE, COV, COH, SWG, AOC, WAR, etc all.
    Not any big surprise. Turbine software is designed this way.

    I believe only their first game supports this. That is because it was designed to run under DOS - take total control of the machine. They never considered this issue. In fact, you had to hack the client in order to get it into a window for a long time.


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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    ah old Lax at lavish haven't been there in ages please update the thread with your experiences using their stuff and if you are paid or using the free stuff

    and was np on the other info just a c&p from my info/kin site

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    Inner Space works flawlessly now with LOTRO, running two clients locked to foreground with repeater and a basic whitelist. You can't ask for any more than that, not to mention it's really expandable and versatile compared to say AHK or Keyclone.

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    Ok i copied all my files to a different directory but how do i change where the exe files point to? when i run either the launcher or download manager they are pointing to the original location even though it is being started from a different location? I am not sure if this will make a difference but I am using vista 64 bit. Any help would be fantastic.

    Thanks

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    Is anyone still successfull able to do this? They changed something a number of months back that totally destroyed my way of dualboxing, now I can't seem to get anything to work. If I load up 2 launchers, it always ends up with a red cross and a 1m timer on Examine game data.

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    It still works if you copy the entire Turbine directory to another location. You can then load two launchers using the exe in both directories and each launcher will also update itself. As an added bonus, there haven't been any issues yet with plugins either. Both clients load the right stuff based on your toons.

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    So does Turbine allow the use of say ISboxer? Boyfriend and I were thinking about it earlier today for the times his away on nightshift I tend to log on to level my runekeeper. But if Turbine allows it I may say to him I can level both while his at work if dualboxing isnt a issue with Turbine.

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    Hmm, I've tried this but have no luck getting it to work. I'm not PvMPing so no flames, I just want to try out more than 9 chars while checking chat on my main account, using extra chars for storage. One of the two instances always fails after connecting to authentication server with the message "Connection Failed: Can't bind local socket. Is another client running?"

    I've got 2 directories of the game, one a copy of the other. I've also tried this in past with normal client and Bullroarer but same error. I have also modified UserPreferences.ini, and it has these lines:

    [Net]
    BindInterface=
    ComputeUniquePort=False
    ConnectionSpeed=0.00
    UserSpecifiedPort=9000

    So I'm wondering if the UserSpecifiedPort is what's getting in the way?

    This is Windows 7 (yes it may hurt performance I know).

    I also have one login but two subscriptions (not sure if "two accounts" means I must have two separate login names or just two subscriptions).

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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    Quote Originally Posted by Lohi View Post
    So I'm wondering if the UserSpecifiedPort is what's getting in the way?
    That would be my guess. You can try setting it to 0 and see if that helps.

    Regarding accounts, as far as I know two subscriptions under the same account should work fine.
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    Re: Dual Boxing (2 Clients one Rig)

    Yep, that worked. Just deleted that UserSpecifiedPort line, Thanks.

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    Bringing this thread back to life for good reason. You no longer need to be running two launchers. You can two box on the same machine with one patcher.

    The problem is the stupid /follow breaks every time you want to turn in a quest. The devil is in the details of this game. Anyone know of an easy way to setup a /follow (name) macro like EQ2 has?

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