Thread: Relative noob looking for recommended quickbar setups

Hi all, I tried searching for quickbar setup recommendations, but didn't find any using the search tool, so forgive me if I'm asking a question that's been addressed previously. I'm a Dark Age of Camelot veteran, and have been playing a Lore-Master for a few months now in LOTRO. I had to take a break for a bit, so my LM is still relatively low, lvl 20. I'm still learning from reading and experience what the various spells/skills are and how best to use them, and of course, I know that quickbar setup is really ultimately a matter of personal preference and play style.

That said, I'd love to hear some suggestions, recommendations, or pointers on how best to set up my quickslots to be more effective. So far, I am a sort of 50-50 LM in the sense that I start out standoff but then pull the mob to me with BE, and then melee along with my pet.

Thanks for any recommendations in advance!

What I did is this, and by no means am I suggesting this is the end-all-be-all, but it works for me...

Each tool bar has one or two "themes". If it has two, then it works from both ends toward the middle with those "themes." For example, my main toolbar ("1"-"=") looks like this, if memory serves:

Burning Embers, Gust of Wind, Cracked Earth, Staff Strike, Light of the Rising Dawn, Test of Will

going across, 1-6. These are my mainline attacks, with my stunning attacks grouped to the end of that grouping. At the other end, I have the buffs I hand out to people in a fellowship from time to time (Air Lore, Sign of Power: Vigilance, & Sign of Power: Righteousness) along with Leechcraft and Tend the Sick. I have a tool bar that has all the debuffs, another with my Beacon of Light, Share the Power, and Power of Knowledge. I also put Blinding Flash on that toolbar as well, but it is just to keep me from accidentally hitting it when I'm debuffing.

I am not suggesting, or I would give you a blow by blow accounting of my entire tool bar set up, that you adopt my set. It is just that I suggest that you keep each toolbar set a grouping of skills that have simular uses. Want to debuff? You hit ALT, and all your debuffs are there, for example.

Similarly to the last poster, I group kinds of skills together. Being level 20, you don't have access to some of these skills. Here are my groupings, the numbers indicate the toolbar number:

1 left: Mez and Root
1 Middle and right: Damaging skills, roughly arranged left to right by CD timers.

2 Left: Debuffs and power drain
2 Middle: Buffs
2 Right: Healing/Restoration skills

3 Left: Uh-oh buttons (Wisdom of the council, Call to the Valar)
3 Middle: Warding Circles, Racial Skills
3 Right: Pet buffs, Will Buff

The bars below are pulled off to the right side, above my pet bar.
Bar 4 has potions, food and heal clickies
Bar 5 pet summoning, node tracking, horse, Knowledge of the Lore-Master
Bar 6 Staves and Ports

Obviously at level 20 you don't have a lot of those skills. I have tried a few different configurations and will probably keep experimenting. With 6 bars I have not found I needed to take any skills off my toolbar.

I would say a lot of it depends on if you use the keyboard or mouse to use skills. I use my mouse and my setup is like this...
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b1...nShot00018.jpg

Top tool bar I setup with my pet skills, buffs, and what not. I only keep one pet on the tool bar at any given time. (I don't like how the 'normal' pet bar is setup)

Then the other bars are split in half. Left half being what I consider my 'attack' skills (damage spells, debuffs, CC) the right half being my 'helper' skills (Heals, buffs, and my warding skills). Then more-so on the left half it's all broken down into rows. Top row being damage, second being debuff, third being CC.

Then the last tool bar is all my food and pots. The one on the far right that's vertical is non-combat stuff (ports, crafting stuff, horse, fluff pet...)

I also keep them grouped by similar types. My stun spells are all next to each other. All my heals are together. My fellow heal, power, and power drain being together. etc...

Here is the horizontal part of my current setup. It's an older shot, but still fairly accurate:



I use a combination of keyboard and mouse access. Damage skills I use the keyboard a lot, while debuffs and healing are more likely to be mouse clicked (except for those hotkeyed, see below). I like grouping common skills together, so when I'm concentrating on a specific role, everything is only a short move away.

Mez is on 1 for real easy access. I group the damage skills across the main bar, 2-7, for easy access. They are roughly grouped by CD timers, with AOEs at the end (6/7/9). 8 became my stealth detection buff (Vigilance?) when I was PvMPing a lot. Draw Power and my Health/Power pots are at the end of the main bar, again, for easy access.

On bars 2 and 3 on the left hand side are most of the debuffs (I put Gust of Wind as a damage attack) except for Ancient Craft, which I put right about Lightning Storm for easy clicking from one to the other.

Fellowship healing skills are in the middle, and most of those have been assigned their own hot-key - for instance, Leechcraft is the P key, Share the Power is ; and stun buff is , - that makes those common actions really easy to hit, and the keys were used by anything else by default.

Pots and Staves go on the right hand side, top row so they are quick and easy to hit with a mouse. Also on the right hand side is the self heals, pet defense buff, Ancient Wisdom, and my common pets (other pets are on a horizontal bar on the far right.) In the middle on the top are my mez macros, to tell the raid or fellowship which mob I plan to mez quickly and easily (also a /follow macro, just easy following although it's rarely used).

I have 2 vertical bars not shown on the far right side of the screen, which have my port skills, maps, horse, craft tools, extra pets, elf-stealth, an emote or 2, my 2 swords, fishing skills/pole, etc. Basically stuff that isn't used too often or in-combat. The only in-combat skill on that bar is the elf-parry skill, because I was killing it's cooldown by accident too often when it was on my main toolbars.

My toolbar when I first reached 50 was quite different than it is now. I went back and moved everything to a better location and had to retrain myself on all the hotkeys.



Everything used frequently is either on the main toolbar or on modifier+1-5 key so it can be done with the left hand only.

The only things I mouseclick are either rare (pots/warding circles) or out of combat (food/tokens/pets).

Pet attack is hotkeyed to R
Pet follow is hotkeyed to T

Fear/Poison/Wound pots are hotkeyed to Alt+Q/W/E

Release/resummon lynx is Ctrl+4 / Ctrl+5 since it's used so much.

The toolbar that I'm not showing just has pet summoning skills and pet buffs on it.

Mine is set up logical to me and I am a clicker.
The main bar below this I store buffs and tracking - to the right I have 2 vertical bars that store less used skills like 1hr cd racials and my debuff rings.

Explanation follows why I setup like this ...

Outlined in green
- These are all heal type skills.

Outlined in blue
- These are all buff/support skills I can use on others or maybe me.

Outlined in purple
- These are all cc skills from most used to least left to right.

Outlined in red
- These are mostly aoe and/or morale depleting skills. The reason lightning is there is aoe and because it is in close proximity to the ancient craft below it which must be applied first. I keep storm-lore on the far right because it is easy to find and often an omg help me skill.

Outlined in yellow
- These are all debuff skills from most to least used left to right again.

Outlined in orange
- These are my 2 most common attacks so they are segregated.

I also keep a space near my power drain so I don't accidentally hit it while cc-ing.
The free spots I fill with whatever I need at the time, pots, a token to pop midfight, fishing skill, whatever works.

I tend to use the keyboard to access hotkeys, and the primary thing I did to make it more useable was to completely remap my keyboard.

I moved the WASD/QE movement/turning keys down to SZXC/AD. I then moved the 123456 hotkeys to QWERTY and the 7890-= hotkeys to 123456. I also remapped the alt+, ctrl+, and shift+ hotkeys to their equivalents.

Primary upside of this is that I can access the first four hotkey bars using only my left hand, and can usually move and use an ability at the same time (assuming no key jams occur), which leaves my right hand free to use the mouse. Downside is you'll be a bit disoriented any time you go back to a WASD set up.

For layout, I tried to group the bars based on effect - CC, damage, debuffing, buffing skills, but I think it's primarily a matter of getting used to where you've got whatever power you're looking for, and aesthetic appeal.

Edit: I also set the fifth hotkey bar to be FGHVBN, shift+FGHVBN, but I use that hotkey bar a lot less on my LM than on my other characters. It's pretty much limited to FGH, which is my attack, follow, and stay commands. VBN controls my pet's special abilities, but I usually leave the ones I want on autofire anyways.

One thing I would like to point out is that there is no "best setup." As I'm sure you will notice - if you have not already - everyone has a very different set up. What is important is for you to find a set up what works FOR YOU. What may work well for one person may not work well for someone else.

Another thing that I recommend is to try to keep the same set up as you level up. When leveling up a character, I always keep future skills in mind. I look at the skills that I will obtain in the future and LEAVE ROOM FOR THEM. It's so much easier to stick to the same set up than have to switch things around once your level gets higher, to make room for more skills.

Here is my set up:




GREEN: These are my heals and power-sharing abilities (minus my fishing skill, which I just stuck in an empty slot). Basically almost everything that is used to help others and myself (minus buffs) is kept here. From left to right I have Back From the Brink, Share the Power, Power of Knowledge, Call to the Valar, Wisdom of the Council, Beacon of Hope and Inner Flame.

BLUE: Here are my buffs. On the top row I have my two pet buffs. Below that I have the buffs used on myself and others (Air-Lore, Ancient Wisdom, SoP: Improved Vigilance and SoP: Improved Righteousness). And on the row below that, I have my cutres: Tend the Sick and Leechcraft.

RED: Debuffs.

PURPLE: Regular damage skills.

WHITE: Stuns.

ORANGE: Roots and mezzes.

You'll notice that I also have some clickies on the top bar, and I also have another vertical bar that cannot be seen, which contains my combat pets, some potions and some ports.

I use keyboard shortcuts for the most important or common skills. In addition to some common skills bound to 1-7, I have pet commands bound to F, shift-F, ctrl-F, beacon of hope is G, share power is shift-G, herb-lore is shift-Q, storm-lore is shift-E, leechcraft is shift-W, tend the sick is shift-D, horse mount is shift-R, wisdom of the council is a side button on my mouse, and other common skills are on the shift and control bars for easy access. The only shortcoming is that I haven't found room to shortcut fire-lore, wind-lore and gust of wind, so I still have to click on those.

I go with the "themes" type deal, as well. Basically:

Normal row is miscellaneous. Anything that I'm going to use a lot of. 1-5 are something like Staff-strike, Beacon of Hope, SoP: Wizardry, Blinding Flash, Inner Flame. Then 9 through = are Tend the Sick, Leechcraft, Bane Flare, Drain. Utility hotbar, I guess.

Shift is my debuffing bar. 1-3 is SoP: Command, Fire-lore, Wind-lore, Benediction of the Raven

Alt is my nuke bar. 1-3 (all I have atm) are Burning Embers, Gust of Wind, LotRD. Don't use ctrl yet.

There is no "All powerful" quickslot setup, its about what you are comfortable using. Someone's setup may be good for them, but bad for you. Its all about how you perceive the skills to be oriented and how you can best manage them.

Yep yep, as I said in my original post, I'm fully aware that the "best" setup is whatever works best for me. That said, being still somewhat unfamiliar with the game/class, I'm looking for pointers/recommendations on how others utilize their quickslots to be most effectiive. I'm certain that I will note the recommendations and adapt to whatever I find suits my style/level of play. Thanks so much all for the recommendations! I'll review and use the suggestions to hopefully enhance my ability to "play well with others" and to enhance my own enjoyment of the game!

Like FissionChips, when I got to 50 and finally had all my skills, I realized I needed to completely re-organize to put some logic into what had been a pretty much random accretion of icons onto my hot-bars.

Also like Fission Chips, I try to keep my most-used stuff on the 1-6 keys (with or without modifiers) - I have a curved ergonomic keyboard where there is a break between the 6 and 7 keys.

(Note to FissionChips: LOLZ at putting your Fishing button in the middle of your other skills! )

I tried to organize both vertically and horizontally, although part of the reason for doing this was to help me when I re-trained.

Ctrl: Crowd-control and debuffs
Alt: Attacks
Shift: Support/Healing skills

My main hot-bar (no modifier) usually has the most-used of the three skills above it, at least for the 1-8 keys.

Non-combat stuff, consumables and clickables are on the non-keymapped bars.

I find all these different configurations interesting. What I attempt to do is to place all my fast casting skills on the ctrl1-= which I have mapped the the numpad. That way I can WASD (move around) while useing those. I then put my longcasting things on my 1-=, alt1-= & Shift 1-11.

Finally I have all my debuffs/healing on a vertical bar down the left side so I can quickly select ppl and do whatever is necessary by mouse click.

Originally Posted by LagunaD

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Heh, you don't even have the Bear on a hotbar.

I like it though.

I don't think my particular setup is that interesting, but these are the concepts I use:

1. Stuff that needs to be cast quickly (combat) goes in the main bar. I've ordered 1-5 in order of my standard engagement (SoP:Command, animal attack, burning embers, SoP:Wizardry, Staff Strike) then stun/mezz/root down to uh-oh key (Wisdom of the Council) on the =. Sometimes I use Wizardry for a long pull or use a stun earlier if my bear stun is on cooldown.

2. The rest I've grouped on the other bars, which are not visible. Ctl is mostly non-combat stuff, Shift is infrequently-used combat stuff, and Alt is specialized stuff like Wards and Ports. I've got my backup uh-ohs (mainly the big Man Heal) on the other = buttons so I can go down the line if I really get into trouble.

Originally Posted by Jamers

Heh, you don't even have the Bear on a hotbar.

He's on the one at the side, actually, just above the non-combat pet...

I group mine up with damaging skills in one spot, healing skills in one spot, etc. Nice and simple.

Originally Posted by LagunaD

Like FissionChips, when I got to 50 and finally had all my skills, I realized I needed to completely re-organize to put some logic into what had been a pretty much random accretion of icons onto my hot-bars.

I tried to organize both vertically and horizontally, although part of the reason for doing this was to help me when I re-trained.

Ctrl: Crowd-control and debuffs
Alt: Attacks
Shift: Support/Healing skills

My main hot-bar (no modifier) usually has the most-used of the three skills above it, at least for the 1-8 keys.

Non-combat stuff, consumables and clickables are on the non-keymapped bars.

Looks similar to my own set up, I have to ask you; what are you saving the 193+ thousand destiny points for? Can we expect a monster creep in moors soon? LOL

http://starsofdream.com/pleiades/mai...7/Mneme_17.jpg

Originally Posted by StarSeekerVDS

http://starsofdream.com/pleiades/mai...7/Mneme_17.jpg
(Quoted from chat) "Hehe people think my interface is straightup insane"

I respectfully agree. How it works for you I'll never know, but what the hey

Here's what I use http://www.fileden.com/files/2006/10...nShot00000.jpg

The main bar has all of my attack skills set up in order (in combat I'll usually do 1,2,3,4,etc...) I have wizard's fire legacy ranked up so it's a nice reliable dot, a couple essential debuffs, etc. bar 2 is debuffs and pots, etc... Bar 5 is usually hidden, I like visible space

Lots of good suggestions and set-ups. Preference depends on whether you are a "keyboar" person or "mouse" person or some hybrid of the 2.

However, what I've not seen is anybody address what I think is a more basic obstacle, esp. for LM's: that of the space taken up by the bag icons on the right and the ? buttons on the left. I call it CLUTTER and lots of folks screen shots seem cluttered.

The best thing I ever did was put on an LM friendly skin:
Joviex's Invisble Static Bar

It can be found here: http://www.lotrointerface.com/downlo...StaticBar.html

If any LM's have found a better and more cleaner look, LM(!)K

BTW, the other very best suggestion I have is to invest in a 24" screen. Then space will be abundant. When I got mine it was like a new world opened up to me.

[P.S. Apologies if somebody else suggested this. I did not read the thread completely]

Originally Posted by sirpileswife

Lots of good suggestions and set-ups. Preference depends on whether you are a "keyboar" person or "mouse" person or some hybrid of the 2.

That is truth. I'm a keyboard person, plus I play a bunch of alts, so my setup is sort of a mishmash. Generally speaking, though, I try to have groups of skills like several of the posters so far, and I keep all often-used, might-be-needed-quickly skills on keyed bars.

The reason that playing several alts makes things different is that I try to keep certain types of skills around the same place on each character: emergency escape skills, for instance -- HIPS for my Burglar, DF for my Hunter, Still As Death for my Minstrel, etc -- are all on alt-=.

I also put three pet commands -- attack, follow, and the first special attack -- on control keys. This allows me to send my stealthed lynx in for a surprise strike and then recall him if needed without fumbling for the mouse, for instance.

SL

Pros click their skills

Since my wife is usually using our super sweet desktop computer for things like email....*cry* I use my gaming laptop with no mouse.

Not having a mouse means that my setup of keys centers around those skills I use most on single-key hotbar, followed by 2-key combos that are easiest for me (like Shift+key) with my least used or OOC items (using my "scholar vision", rezzing someone) on the more difficult 2-key combo such as Ctrl+key. I also have a 4th bar vertically off to the side with various heal pots and my pets displayed not mapped to any keys.

Optimal is actually REALLY REALLY simple (but hard to optimize.)


In short, everything common should be done w/ the left hand, leaving the R hand free to mouse steer, click target, and click uncommon stuff.

read that again... almost everyone I know who is REALLY good at MMO's plays that way (except the best player I know, who is a lil Korean chick from Baltimore, but she is like God, so ignore her):

In short, everything common should be done w/ the left hand, leaving the R hand free to mouse steer, click target, and click uncommon stuff.

--mouse steer = hold down mouse 1 (2? i forget... muscles know it, brain does not 8) and move the mouse to direct your movement while you auto run or WASD (autorun = numlock, strongly suggest you remap it to Q)

--whichever I have wrong there is your "scout" button. press it and rotate the camera around your character to spot adds frequently (superduper crucial in pvp.)

--you need to be able to BOTH mouse steer and key steer, so have strafe & turn mapped to the L hand. I have turn mapped to A & D and strafe mapped to Z & C. Many folks reverse this though. It's very important you be able to circle strafe around a mob to keep weapon DPS maxxed, kite, pwn keyboard turners in pvp, etc (circle strafe = strafe [move sideways] buttons + mouse steer.)

--to do everything L handed, you need to more or less map everything to 1-6 + QWERTY + ASDSAFG + ZXCZVB + shift/control/alt + mouse buttons.


TRUST ME, it may suck switching to this new layout, but you will be (more of) a badass once you take the solo time to work it out.
(oh, and the other option is getting a $100 gaming keyboard & mapping everything to that. basically the same thing, but somewhat better.)

If you like mouseclicking skills, you'll really benefit. nothing is stopping you from mouseclicking w/ your R hand while you steer w/ the L, and you'll be much faster in general keyboarding skills w/ the L, but still be able to mouseclick superfast while driving, etc w/ the L. You really can't lose.

1st Bar: Core Damage Skills, Miscellaneous
2nd Bar: Crowd Control Skills, Pet Commands
3rd Bar: Debuffs, Pet Commands
4th Bar: Support Skills, Long Cooldowns

I agree in principle with putting actions that needed to be cast instantly on demand within easy reach of your left hand, leaving your right hand free to control the view and select targets/fellowship members.

One suggestion that I haven't seen mentioned yet that is very useful for a lore-master is binding your pet commands for easy keyboard access by slotting them on a hidden hotbar. There was a thread with lots of potential setups broken down by pet about a year ago, but because I'm too lazy to search back that far I'll just post my Raven setup with WASD. If you use ESDF you'll want to adjust correspondingly.

- Leave your pet on passive with assist/guard turned off.
Q - Pet Attack
E - Pet Follow
Z - Pet Special #1
X - Pet Special #2
C - Pet Special #3

Not only does this allow you to micromanage your pet to keep it from getting you or your raid in trouble, but it makes combat a lot smoother when you aren't having to click on pet skills continually. It also lets you do more intricate pet moves (raven's distract -> raven follow -> raven attack) to gain some of the benefits of pet specials and not lose the auto-attack/flank rate.

I think mine's fairly simple.

I am a mouse clicker and only use the function keys when i need to target someone quickly and am on my minstrel, otherwise I click their name with the mouse and then I click on the skill I want to use.

And my bags open up to the right side of my screen so nothing really get's in my way. I'd take another screen shot to show you but I can't get into the game. -_-

Originally Posted by happyhollow

In short, everything common should be done w/ the left hand, leaving the R hand free to mouse steer, click target, and click uncommon stuff.

Perfect advice if you happen to be right-handed. Left-handers should be more like clickers IMHO ..unless you happen to have a "$100 gaming keyboard & mapping everything to that." ..also an option, but if you're really serious about gaming you've probably chosen that option too

Sorry if I singled out your post (great post it is) , but does anyone have a reliable setup for left handed players? The number pad just doesn't do the trick when you try to move with the arrows at the same time.

Not left handed, but I'd try mirroring the setup described. Instead of using the area between 1,6,Z, and N, I might try mapping everything between 5,0,B, and /.

Originally Posted by Tripsis

One thing I would like to point out is that there is no "best setup." As I'm sure you will notice - if you have not already - everyone has a very different set up. What is important is for you to find a set up what works FOR YOU. What may work well for one person may not work well for someone else.

Another thing that I recommend is to try to keep the same set up as you level up. When leveling up a character, I always keep future skills in mind. I look at the skills that I will obtain in the future and LEAVE ROOM FOR THEM. It's so much easier to stick to the same set up than have to switch things around once your level gets higher, to make room for more skills.

Here is my set up:




GREEN: These are my heals and power-sharing abilities (minus my fishing skill, which I just stuck in an empty slot). Basically almost everything that is used to help others and myself (minus buffs) is kept here. From left to right I have Back From the Brink, Share the Power, Power of Knowledge, Call to the Valar, Wisdom of the Council, Beacon of Hope and Inner Flame.

BLUE: Here are my buffs. On the top row I have my two pet buffs. Below that I have the buffs used on myself and others (Air-Lore, Ancient Wisdom, SoP: Improved Vigilance and SoP: Improved Righteousness). And on the row below that, I have my cutres: Tend the Sick and Leechcraft.

RED: Debuffs.

PURPLE: Regular damage skills.

WHITE: Stuns.

ORANGE: Roots and mezzes.

You'll notice that I also have some clickies on the top bar, and I also have another vertical bar that cannot be seen, which contains my combat pets, some potions and some ports.

You almost have it like me. I switch the debuffs and the heals on reverse bars tho.

Originally Posted by moebius92

Not left handed, but I'd try mirroring the setup described. Instead of using the area between 1,6,Z, and N, I might try mapping everything between 5,0,B, and /.

I try to have my most used and most reaction-time-critical skills (ie Staff Strike, Burning Embers, LotRD, Blinding Flash, Wizard's Fire, etc) mapped between 1 - 5 and Alt[thumb] + 1 - 5. Pinky finger for the Tab key when necessary. Mouse-Click for everything else.

I find the Shift key very awkward to use when I'm playing. So I stack that bar with my out of combat skills (ie teleports, horse, food, pet summons, etc) and keep it hidden.

I want to experiment with a vertical bar of buffing/healing/curing skills down the left-hand side to make it quicker to cure wounds, heal, transfer power, etc. But I haven't got there yet.

Originally Posted by brasswire12

I want to experiment with a vertical bar of buffing/healing/curing skills down the left-hand side to make it quicker to cure wounds, heal, transfer power, etc. But I haven't got there yet.

I use a vertical bar on both my LM and minstrel for healing (in addition to my hot keys for mezz, wound removal, and disease removal). My Vertical bar is positioned between Group 1 and Group 2 (Raid Groups) as it appears that a new 24 isn't very likely in the near future. You can but this vertical bar right up next to a group bar on the group bars left hand side. If you want to put a group bar to the left of the quickslot bar you will need to put the group bar a but away from the quickslot bar.

Actually you will be butting the group bar up against the quickslot bar but the player icons will be spaced away you need to be aware of the actual size of the group bar when you Ctrl+\ I had some selection issues when I aligned the player icons with the quickbar VS. the actual group boxes' right hand limit.

With my LM I just use one vertical bar but at times I have used as many as three vertical bars with my minstrel. (it helped me Tier up ballads faster to keep the fear resist buff up for the balrog)

There are two ways you might want to separate your damage dealing skills:
First is by damage type ie: common, light, fire.
Second, by single target VS. AoE skills.

The main boss in the forges can have 100% light and fire damage mitigation at time so it is important to know which skills will just be a waste of power.

This is a useful thread for newer LMs asking about toolbar/quickslot layouts.

Kind of on the subject of the shortcut bars is using their shortcuts to tie into a mouse and joystick. The central idea here of the bars has been convenient access during play and the buttons on a mouse and other devices can complement this. I found an old joystick laying aound from my F-15 days and together with a logitech mouse have 18 buttons plus directional control at my finger tips to compliment my layout of shortcut bar icons that dont have buttons. Perhaps not as efficient as someone who is a genius with the keyboard but does reduce issues with trying to find the mouse cursour at the worst possible time. I wish there was some way to introduce a mouse pointer trail or some other pointer graphic options.

I have 2 bars near my Raid and fellowship players so I can summon pets and heal on the fly. Then the other 3 bars do other thing. and the pet bar has food and other stats under it. The only heals I have on my combat bars is the ones I use for pet and my self. I only use the Mouse and I have 7 extra button on the mouse to control combat. change monsters and so on.

Even if it doesn't have the latest skills on it, seeing how others arrange their skill bars is always interesting. I know there are a few other similar threads, but this was the one linked from the LM resources thread that is stickied, so it gets the bump.

bump to make sure leveling LMs have an idea of how to start a well organized quickbar setup.