As for why SB battles happen... An and EC. All day long Freeps go to EC first, always have. Greenie creeps go to SB to kill An, which makes going to EC even more lucrative for freeps. And other creeps come to kill the freeps in EC.
Hotspots are too uneven and way too easy to flip when defended. TR HS and LUG HS are drastically in favor of freeps. LC HS is drastically in favor of creeps. The others are just out of the way with nothing interesting to bring freeps or creeps there.
Keep and bridge farming happen because of tar. Tar is the single most stupid thing Turbine has done with the game, and freeps are willing to just sit there behind tar all day long because it means free kills if anyone tries to get to them. To push a freep force out, once they're behind tar, takes such overwhelming creep force that it guarantees there will be no good fight. Either creeps have enough numbers that they can make it through the tar, in which case freeps are wiped easily, or creeps can't make it through the tar, in which case creeps are farmed.
Freeps have CC advantage, healing advantage, ranged dps advantage, aoe advantage, and mobility advantage (as a zerg, even though they shouldn't, just way too many creeps don't have their maps)
Creeps have single target melee dps advantage (at least relative to HPs)
Freeps choose where fights happen because of it. Creeps have to close on freeps to apply their advantage. Freeps can just stand off and apply their advantages.
IT GET OLD HEARING PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT TAR THERES 1 CLASS THAT HAS IT..
GET OVER IT...
WE COULD GET INTO EVERY CLASS HAVING SOMETHING SPECIAL ..
YOUR A GREAT PLAYER , DONT LET ME THINK LESS OF YA(AND YEAH I KNOW U WILL SAY I DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE THINK OF ME)
good 1v1 Codor accept at the end when u used Last stand and ran to a bunch of npcs...u still died for it though ...hope the watered down 40 renoun that u got from the fight (about 10 npcs finished me) was satisfying knowing that u couldn't finish the job urself and thx for the 140 inf
word to the ppl who get into 1v1's...if u get into one and realize that u can't handle ur opponant don't run to the nearest friendly npcs...stay and die w/ at least some dignity and honor
-Azsouth the Hand of Doom of Elendilmir, Rank 14 Warg
Originator of the 1st Good 1v1 Thread (Meneldor)
1 tar slows and i do believe u have a bite that does(yes i know red pots get ya out but if another warg bite ya it goes back on)
2. cry some more(lol)
3. stay on ther topic lol (quit trolling(thats a joke) )
4. who cares play the game
5. give LM hip's
6. please get back on topic
1. So you're answer to my question is cripple=tar? Or were you just intentionally evading my question because you knew there was no answer...?
2. Again, are you just evading my question by using personal attacks? Interesting tactic
3. So wait, you posted off topic before I did, and now come back to tell me to stay on topic? err..ok
4. It's hard to play the game when I can't control my own character. kthx.
5. Sure thing, just as soon as they give wargs a Mez, AoE Root, another stun or two, WoTC, Man Heal, and a pet. Well, while we're at it, I want a power drain too, that could come in handy. Oh, I almost forgot, how about they give us stun immunity too? Heck, why not +5 stealth detection too?
6. See #3
All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer,
but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
~Sun Tzu
You win some, you lose some, thats how it is, sometimes you map into em sometimes you map into nothing, there are other places to go, beats me why you mapped to the same place you got zerged
I didn't get zerged at all. It was 3 the first time, 5-6 the second. That's just dying. I don't try to avoid fights, even when star hugging (of course when star hugging, I leave losing fights, but generally as a last resort.) I knew the freep zerg was around tr, and the only other group (yours) was back near tr as well. So I was scouting the freeps like I always do. You act like this is abnormal, but even star hugging that's what I do, hundreds of times a day. I got unlucky twice and died, that's not my complaint.
This isn't difficult to comprehend. I went looking for fights, wherever I could find them. It's just sickening when the only place you can ever find a fight is at a zerg farming session at EC/SB or in a tarred up keep, and the rest of the moors is dead virtually all the time. That's not a game... it's work, grinding out meaningless stats by pushing the same buttons over and over and over... for hours on end.
gameplay style, at the moment there is a HUGE reason to stick to the freep zerg, renown, and protection, for 90% renown>living on the edge, its much easier to leave the zerg creepside because there is no protection, and not very much infamy
See, we agree. Freeps generally want lazy kills to boost stats while protected (zergs, tar, massive cc), not a fight.
i don't do this freepside? about 10% of my freep time, yes much less then creep i wander off checking keeps, looking for 1v1s, check HH, head up to the rez, usually solo, but every once in a while i'll hook up with a friend. can i reference that time in dwarf camp?
You're one of the "good" freeps. That's all I've said, that freeps, even the good ones, don't die as much as the average creep, and don't take as much risk. I've said freeps rarely leave their zergs/npcs. You say you're saying the opposite, but you're really just confirming everything I've said. On your creep you're taking more chances than on your freeps. Virtually all freep/creeps are like this. I see them die more in a couple minutes creepside than they do all day on their freep.
It's something wrong with the entire freepside mentality that makes gameplay boring for anyone who actually enjoys fighting rather than farming (one way or the other).
(Dwarf camp was farming npcs. Neither of us could kill the other obviously, as there were 5+ friendly npcs nearby for both of us, I'm not sure what the reference is for. It was just farming pots.)
Like i said before there's a problem on BOTH side...you cant say its only the freeps fault for how our PvP suck, biggest problem i see in the moors are...Creeps farming DP...Freeps farming renown and finally...the %$#%^ CC. Creeps wont leave SB because of An and Freeps wont leave SB because thats where the creeps are period
As a melee class im well placed to know how inapropriate it is to allow CC in PvP, sometimes i stand there even if i know im outnumbered and i have in mind to give creeps everything i have before i die...first thing they do?...chain pounce and tendon shred...WOW...i know a lot of wargs do it...and i personaly think its a lame practice...its not like im going anywhere...i cant outrun a warg or a reaver...even with a zerg of 20 creeps agains me creeps generaly think its smart to chain root...chain stun me or whatever...thats just plain cheap.
How many times i decided to charge the creeps...what do you think happen first generaly?
Yep a warg pounce me...and what happen next?...Yep the zerg jump me...and i die...and you dare say freeps dont have balls?...they are not suicidal...and you punish me every time i show some balls, i think its just a normal reaction to be carefull next time.
So dont blame just one side...cause if you do so you are wrong, for those of you who think i never played creep side are wrong, i did and i know how CC is frustrating and as a champ trust me its frustrating too since we are a MELEE class, wich mean we have to charge in front of everyone, and dont tell me i dont do it, i died many times charging like a berzerker. It doesnt matter how many CC ability both side have...BOTH side use em like its the only ability they have.
You dont see much freeps running around alone because usually even if you are alone creeps have the tendency to call the zerg on you.
In other words...try to see both side of the story instead of just judging the other side because both are at fault.I know i have my share of responsabilities in this as well.
I owe Warthag an appology for trying to kill him with a ranger, it was lame and i know it...but try to get pounced every minute for 2 hours and you will understand how i felt that night.
Like i said before there's a problem on BOTH side...you cant say its only the freeps fault for how our PvP suck, biggest problem i see in the moors are...Creeps farming DP...Freeps farming renown and finally...the %$#%^ CC. Creeps wont leave SB because of An and Freeps wont leave SB because thats where the creeps are period
As a melee class im well placed to know how inapropriate it is to allow CC in PvP, sometimes i stand there even if i know im outnumbered and i have in mind to give creeps everything i have before i die...first thing they do?...chain pounce and tendon shred...WOW...i know a lot of wargs do it...and i personaly think its a lame practice...its not like im going anywhere...i cant outrun a warg or a reaver...even with a zerg of 20 creeps agains me creeps generaly think its smart to chain root...chain stun me or whatever...thats just plain cheap.
How many times i decided to charge the creeps...what do you think happen first generaly?
Yep a warg pounce me...and what happen next?...Yep the zerg jump me...and i die...and you dare say freeps dont have balls?...they are not suicidal...and you punish me every time i show some balls, i think its just a normal reaction to be carefull next time.
So dont blame just one side...cause if you do so you are wrong, for those of you who think i never played creep side are wrong, i did and i know how CC is frustrating and as a champ trust me its frustrating too since we are a MELEE class, wich mean we have to charge in front of everyone, and dont tell me i dont do it, i died many times charging like a berzerker. It doesnt matter how many CC ability both side have...BOTH side use em like its the only ability they have.
You dont see much freeps running around alone because usually even if you are alone creeps have the tendency to call the zerg on you.
In other words...try to see both side of the story instead of just judging the other side because both are at fault.I know i have my share of responsabilities in this as well.
I owe Warthag an appology for trying to kill him with a ranger, it was lame and i know it...but try to get pounced every minute for 2 hours and you will understand how i felt that night.
Wanted to split this up for my reply but will just do it one block.
First of all the SB/EC shuffle. Was creepside earlier and we were trying REALLY hard to stop the shuffle from happening. Everytime the freeps showed up at SB we went to TR. Some intereresting LC/EC shuffle occured followed by an even more interesting entire raid retreat then attempt to gank at SB, pushed them off then most freeps logged. The freeps who remained somehow ended up with the creeps in a SB/EC shuffle but I had to log so don't know how this played out. The point is if people really want to, they can have good pvp, zerg v zerg fights or gank if that's the way roll ANYWHERE on the map, as long as they push their fellow freeps/creeps a little bit. I'm not going to tell people how to play but a little originality in tactics goes a long way in soothing people's bad feelings.
About the point on freeps running solo, I'd just like to point that when I did take my champ out to the moors I would more often than not be running solo. I would rarely get ganked even though I took the possibility of it happening into consideration and I even had a number of 1v1's on the side of the zerg. It's all about how ou approach it. Emotes go a long way. Respect for the other side by not charging in when you could is noticed and often reciprocated.
Finally, wargs and 'chain pouncing'. You don't seem to understand that that is ALL wargs have. Like prett much the ONLY skill. Calling wargs up on using their only usefull skill is like complaining about a champ hitting you with his axe (or other generic weapon). At least you get some sort of immunity between stuns and so wargs have to co-ordinate and use some of their brain cells. Freep CC on the other hand can be chained indefinitely in it's numerous forms (bring on book 14 pvp updates and DR). Being targetted by creeps using their few skills because you are at the front of a zerg (which I give kudos to), is not really justification for rolling a ranger to grief people in my opinion (takes kudos away). I wont get started on the whole Troll/Ranger issue because there is far too much to say. All I will say is revenge is not a good motive. If you're getting hot under the collar, take a time out, leave the moors for a bit and come back when you have calmed down, hopefully things will have changed a bit by then.
Sorry, this is NOT meant to be a flame. Please don't read that into the tone of the post. I simply want to highlight that there is always a different way, a different side to the story and a real human player on the other side, hopefully, trying to have fun.
Like i said before there's a problem on BOTH side...you cant say its only the freeps fault for how our PvP suck, biggest problem i see in the moors are...Creeps farming DP...Freeps farming renown and finally...the %$#%^ CC. Creeps wont leave SB because of An and Freeps wont leave SB because thats where the creeps are period
As a melee class im well placed to know how inapropriate it is to allow CC in PvP, sometimes i stand there even if i know im outnumbered and i have in mind to give creeps everything i have before i die...first thing they do?...chain pounce and tendon shred...WOW...i know a lot of wargs do it...and i personaly think its a lame practice...its not like im going anywhere...i cant outrun a warg or a reaver...even with a zerg of 20 creeps agains me creeps generaly think its smart to chain root...chain stun me or whatever...thats just plain cheap.
How many times i decided to charge the creeps...what do you think happen first generaly?
Yep a warg pounce me...and what happen next?...Yep the zerg jump me...and i die...and you dare say freeps dont have balls?...they are not suicidal...and you punish me every time i show some balls, i think its just a normal reaction to be carefull next time.
So dont blame just one side...cause if you do so you are wrong, for those of you who think i never played creep side are wrong, i did and i know how CC is frustrating and as a champ trust me its frustrating too since we are a MELEE class, wich mean we have to charge in front of everyone, and dont tell me i dont do it, i died many times charging like a berzerker. It doesnt matter how many CC ability both side have...BOTH side use em like its the only ability they have.
You dont see much freeps running around alone because usually even if you are alone creeps have the tendency to call the zerg on you.
EXACTLY! Why would anyone wanna act like John Rambo? All that does is get you ganked. PERIOD. That doesn't prove you have giant ---- that proves you're an idiot listening to people in the forums who want easy kills. Raids are Good on freep side, lets convince the freeps to stop the sb shuffle. Then we can have a tree to tree shuffle. Fellas it's always gonna be a shuffle no matter where it's at. Stop running and die fighting, that ends the shuffle
At least you get some sort of immunity between stuns and so wargs have to co-ordinate and use some of their brain cells.
We do? Honestly if we do I've never noticed it. I get stunned get hit a couple times, start to move, get stunned again, generally if its a group of wargs I can maybe get a swing or two off. The rest of the time I just sit there unable to do anything.
A single warg is a really fun fight though, those are just rare though.
You dont see much freeps running around alone because usually even if you are alone creeps have the tendency to call the zerg on you.
This has been my experience so far. I'm generally solo in the mornings and I've yet to have the creeps not stealth zerg me. No worries though it is the nature of pvp. Generally though if it is a 1 on 1 I'll stay out of it and let them fight.
I owe Warthag an appology for trying to kill him with a ranger, it was lame and i know it...but try to get pounced every minute for 2 hours and you will understand how i felt that night.
It is frustrating trying to do anything solo or in a small group due to the warg stealth groups. I'm sure creeps have it just as bad with 'burg groups since I do see calls for those to get started, but hey it is what stealth classes do and have always done. In DAoC it was fun to get 3 or 4 hunters to target the same class and unload all at once and we'd get a ton of complaints about that as well.
But hey, if you do see a Captain running around generally dancing or jumping give me a chance for a semi fair fight. If I'm going to win however unlikely feel free to jump in and save your fellow creep, I just want a chance to do something besides spam heals on others.
It's something wrong with the entire freepside mentality that makes gameplay boring for anyone who actually enjoys fighting rather than farming (one way or the other).
This seems to be you're main issue, but you are generalizing everything negativly towards freeps, like hala said , the entire freep population isn't at fault for your boredom.
I enjoy fighting raither than farming, but being the one to run through the zerg with make haste, last stand, and 2 minstrels chain healing you chasing the 400 morale warg can be a blast.
Originally Posted by Faineant
(Dwarf camp was farming npcs. Neither of us could kill the other obviously, as there were 5+ friendly npcs nearby for both of us, I'm not sure what the reference is for. It was just farming pots.)
the reference was to show that I, as well as others go out looking for fights, liik is fearless, probably mostly because he is pretty much invincible, but nevertheless he is always roaming, the problem is its hard to stay solo, you start out alone, you invite a kinmate, a friend then another, next thing you know you have a full raid and you standing at EC.
good fights
brunodir (i lost got u to 500 though :/)
some LM that begins w/ a G (tried to gank me while i was fighting a burg but the burg ran away when the LM interfered and i got my *** handed to me)
Terrayne (guess we can call it a tie since u were at 700 and i was at 3k when that other hunter decided to join in)
to Xandercrews this is not how u fight a 1v1
he was running back to his zerg w/o even trying to hit me once
and to Raz sry the 1v1 got interfered on...apparently a warg pack decided to camp were i was...i left as soon as they showed up and mapped to grothum...hope u made it out ok
Edit: probably gonna keep editing this post for today
nice 1v1 Zetametal until Beliena interfered...u had 700 i had 3.6k we can call it a tie
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-Azsouth the Hand of Doom of Elendilmir, Rank 14 Warg
Originator of the 1st Good 1v1 Thread (Meneldor)
EXACTLY! Why would anyone wanna act like John Rambo? All that does is get you ganked. PERIOD. That doesn't prove you have giant ---- that proves you're an idiot listening to people in the forums who want easy kills. Raids are Good on freep side, lets convince the freeps to stop the sb shuffle. Then we can have a tree to tree shuffle. Fellas it's always gonna be a shuffle no matter where it's at. Stop running and die fighting, that ends the shuffle
Thing is... freeps say 'stop running and die fighting' but they generally only are directing that at creeps. Creeps HAVE to run and fight, if they stop running they DO die fighting, the same can't be said as often for freeps, especially the zergs that you guys lead lately.
As for good 1v1's... haven't had many lately. Rogmar and I had a nice one at HH which I lost but left him at approximately 200 morale (one more DS and voila). Had a fight with a really really bad loremaster on Node which still ended with me dead and him at 2500 morale... which is why I don't 1v1 loremasters since they are unbeatable for a reaver (nothing wears me out more than a class where a substandard player can still succeed in PvP). I do remember his name, but I'm not going to name him here since I've already said how poor a player I generally think he is . Had some great burg 1v1's with Ravyn and Cent...somthing. Would love to 1v1 some of the new hobbit burgs but they are starhuggers to a man (though Hath might have had a change of heart lately ).
What kind of fool comes to the battlefield to sing rather than fight? A dead fool.
some1 sounds butthurt...specially since i nvr use the 3k pot for 1v1's...but from ur extensive experience u would nvr know that...when u chain fear some1, use a triple trap, and keep a -40% slow on them on ur own turf...thats right it was on an open field were u wanted...then that is just unfair...there is no way that any class of creep save a Wl will even be able to even come close to killing something like that...but welcome back we missed ur crying
also...u don't think it's griefing were ur feared so long that u drop combat?
this was supposed to be a thread for ppl to come and say good fight but leave it up to some1 like u to say something like that
-Azsouth the Hand of Doom of Elendilmir, Rank 14 Warg
Originator of the 1st Good 1v1 Thread (Meneldor)
and playing tonight I see creepside is still pretty much ezmode
Kaco, you've been gone for a while and come back one night and say Creep side is ezmode because we happened to be winning at the time? Had you logged on a few hours earlier you would have been able to partake in the grams camp (All blue map). Or, had you been on the past couple months, you would have undoubtedly witnessed the freeps swarming nearly every night and camping SB/TR for hours on end. Ezmode? C'mon, gather more info before you make general assumptions about the state of the moors after being back for a day.
All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer,
but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
~Sun Tzu
Kaco, you've been gone for a while and come back one night and say Creep side is ezmode because we happened to be winning at the time? Had you logged on a few hours earlier you would have been able to partake in the grams camp (All blue map). Or, had you been on the past couple months, you would have undoubtedly witnessed the freeps swarming nearly every night and camping SB/TR for hours on end. Ezmode? C'mon, gather more info before you make general assumptions about the state of the moors after being back for a day.
just dismiss it as a rage post...his 1st day back so cut him some slack...though i do like how he posts PRIVATE messages...i guess i killed him a few times today and it built up some rage...also...he was at the grams camp i saw him but after the good fighting in which he died in a few times i guess were back to being easy mode...guess that gives freeps license to farm us for the next 3 months
-Azsouth the Hand of Doom of Elendilmir, Rank 14 Warg
Originator of the 1st Good 1v1 Thread (Meneldor)
Hathrel. I saw you picking on those greenies at the slug pit. Are those stars of yours all green? hmmm. Anyways, it was fun watching you run away as soon as I took a chunk of hobbit meats out of ya I was on Chompers at the time....next time stick around and fight....don't be afraid of the signatures
good fights
brunodir (i lost got u to 500 though :/)
some LM that begins w/ a G (tried to gank me while i was fighting a burg but the burg ran away when the LM interfered and i got my *** handed to me)
Terrayne (guess we can call it a tie since u were at 700 and i was at 3k when that other hunter decided to join in)
to Xandercrews this is not how u fight a 1v1
he was running back to his zerg w/o even trying to hit me once
and to Raz sry the 1v1 got interfered on...apparently a warg pack decided to camp were i was...i left as soon as they showed up and mapped to grothum...hope u made it out ok
Edit: probably gonna keep editing this post for today
nice 1v1 Zetametal until Beliena interfered...u had 700 i had 3.6k we can call it a tie
IM SURE THAT LM WITH A "G" WASNT ME SINCE I HAVENT BEEN PVP'ING !!!!! IN ABOUT 3 DAYS
Thing is... freeps say 'stop running and die fighting' but they generally only are directing that at creeps. Creeps HAVE to run and fight, if they stop running they DO die fighting, the same can't be said as often for freeps, especially the zergs that you guys lead lately.
As for good 1v1's... haven't had many lately. Rogmar and I had a nice one at HH which I lost but left him at approximately 200 morale (one more DS and voila). Had a fight with a really really bad loremaster on Node which still ended with me dead and him at 2500 morale... which is why I don't 1v1 loremasters since they are unbeatable for a reaver (nothing wears me out more than a class where a substandard player can still succeed in PvP). I do remember his name, but I'm not going to name him here since I've already said how poor a player I generally think he is . Had some great burg 1v1's with Ravyn and Cent...somthing. Would love to 1v1 some of the new hobbit burgs but they are starhuggers to a man (though Hath might have had a change of heart lately ).
IF ITS ME U CAN TELL ME I PROMISE I WONT GET MAD.....PLUS IM NOT A BAD LOREMASTER.... SO MY FEELINGS WOULDNT GET HURT
I'm really at a loss for words right now....For those of you who do not know, Warthag will no longer be joining us in the Moors. He has been deleted
Meneldor must have the worst freeps out of any server if you guys can get Warthag to delete his warg. This is very disheartening...seriously, I'm embarrassed for you guys. What's even worse is that 80% of the freeps reading this likely have no idea who warthag is(was)
Ugh, this is disgusting...we lost the best warg meneldor has known...maybe you guys should rethink your strategy the next time you want to hide behind 3 tars on SB, or you'll one day have no one left to fight.
Blah Blah, there are plenty of lame people with same tactics on both sides to throw the blame around on both sides. I hate about 75% of freeps and about 65% of creeps (not actually hate them, just hate their playstyle).
Inclusive grouping, retreating over and over when you have a huge advantage, trolls/rangers on the winning side, using anti-exploit mode etc.
Most people only see the one side of it, but it sucks on both sides, so save your embarrassment.
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IF ITS ME U CAN TELL ME I PROMISE I WONT GET MAD.....PLUS IM NOT A BAD LOREMASTER.... SO MY FEELINGS WOULDNT GET HURT
Pshhh if it was you I'd straight up come out and call you a noob . I'm waiting to catch you alone with no other creeps around. We both know you'll win, but it'll be interesting. As far as I'm concerned a loremaster should only lose 1v1 if they are LD or AFK.
What kind of fool comes to the battlefield to sing rather than fight? A dead fool.
Pshhh if it was you I'd straight up come out and call you a noob . I'm waiting to catch you alone with no other creeps around. We both know you'll win, but it'll be interesting. As far as I'm concerned a loremaster should only lose 1v1 if they are LD or AFK.
not true badfinn beat me 1v1(granted he had 3 little friends) but we dont win either we just stun stun and run lol (against reavers) just joking i wont run if i know for sure its a 1v1 but if i see a friend RUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
Not butthurt over dieing.. and not 1st day back. Just a random day of deciding to play lotro and seeing its the same old.
Creep sissies hiding in grams and not trying to move the fight. Freeps being too ignorant to check keeps. Same old star huggin wargs (and some non-wargs) playing the hit and run ezmode while letting the main group of creeps fail misreably. Freeps lacking any coordination and making stupid moves. Troll hugging and more.
Did I have some fun last night? Sure, because I was playing with competent freep players. Did I die several times? Yes, but not while being a wimp. Instead fighting and trying to help comrades, even those poor freeps not in my group.
So keep popping those pots, hitting disappear, and sprinting.... and enjoy a 10 minute break.
Maybe I should pull out all those private flame/hate tells I would get by creeps... that might be interesting reading.
Not butthurt over dieing.. and not 1st day back. Just a random day of deciding to play lotro and seeing its the same old.
Creep sissies hiding in grams and not trying to move the fight. Freeps being too ignorant to check keeps. Same old star huggin wargs (and some non-wargs) playing the hit and run ezmode while letting the main group of creeps fail misreably. Freeps lacking any coordination and making stupid moves. Troll hugging and more.
Did I have some fun last night? Sure, because I was playing with competent freep players. Did I die several times? Yes, but not while being a wimp. Instead fighting and trying to help comrades, even those poor freeps not in my group.
So keep popping those pots, hitting disappear, and sprinting.... and enjoy a 10 minute break.
Maybe I should pull out all those private flame/hate tells I would get by creeps... that might be interesting reading.
DUDE NOTHING HAS CHANGED PEOPLE STILL HATE CC,TAR AND ZERGING ,FARMING AND ABOVE ALL THEY HATE ELMOSNIFF(TEARS)
Not butthurt over dieing.. and not 1st day back. Just a random day of deciding to play lotro and seeing its the same old.
Creep sissies hiding in grams and not trying to move the fight. Freeps being too ignorant to check keeps. Same old star huggin wargs (and some non-wargs) playing the hit and run ezmode while letting the main group of creeps fail misreably. Freeps lacking any coordination and making stupid moves. Troll hugging and more.
Did I have some fun last night? Sure, because I was playing with competent freep players. Did I die several times? Yes, but not while being a wimp. Instead fighting and trying to help comrades, even those poor freeps not in my group.
So keep popping those pots, hitting disappear, and sprinting.... and enjoy a 10 minute break.
Maybe I should pull out all those private flame/hate tells I would get by creeps... that might be interesting reading.
The way I see it, freeps are the sissies not creeps