I don't post much on the forums but for the 5 wargs who attacked me at the slugs, that was one of the best fights I've had in the moors in a long time, can't remember all the names but some are in the SS
was really a 1v5 but I did manage to take down 2 before I died, oh and HH was fun as well...
Shadzorztwo Step ~ 60 Guard R9 ~ Meneldor ~ Tempian
Zorzlys ~ Reaver ~ Meneldor
"Uke Can Change the World!"
LoL Shadzor, they were talking about that today and were convinced you were a champ, but couldn't remember your name. There's a reason I don't try to tangle with you on my warg... well two reasons. One is I've watched you enough to know that it's not a winable fight (as in 0% chance) and I like to at least have a chance, and two is that my main is a guard so I know enough about your class to know that number one is absolutely true .
What kind of fool comes to the battlefield to sing rather than fight? A dead fool.
LoL Shadzor, they were talking about that today and were convinced you were a champ, but couldn't remember your name. There's a reason I don't try to tangle with you on my warg... well two reasons. One is I've watched you enough to know that it's not a winable fight (as in 0% chance) and I like to at least have a chance, and two is that my main is a guard so I know enough about your class to know that number one is absolutely true .
Lol, no joke...I fought Shadzor...once...that was enough for me haha
All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer,
but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
~Sun Tzu
If I remember right the last 2 times I've tried to fight Brognam both have been intervened on, one by a WL and one by a warg. I would gladly fight anyone whether it is winnable or not as long as it stays a 1v1 =)... and I love fighting reavers.
Shadzorztwo Step ~ 60 Guard R9 ~ Meneldor ~ Tempian
Zorzlys ~ Reaver ~ Meneldor
"Uke Can Change the World!"
If I remember right the last 2 times I've tried to fight Brognam both have been intervened on, one by a WL and one by a warg. I would gladly fight anyone whether it is winnable or not as long as it stays a 1v1 =)... and I love fighting reavers.
I've fought brognam 3 times, twice during Shouts little organized 1v1 thing and once up by the slugs, he is the only Creep to ever completely solo me, and he did it twice.
I've fought brognam 3 times, twice during Shouts little organized 1v1 thing and once up by the slugs, he is the only Creep to ever completely solo me, and he did it twice.
I got you once your first time in the moors. Would have been twice but the first time you manhealed.
You just got me 2 times (thanks to 8-10 hunters tracking me while the whole freep zerg waited at TR for who the hell knows what...) That will be my last time in the moors. Freeps are beyond sickening these days. I was gonna put up with it one more day for 5 stars, but not worth another day now...
I got you once your first time in the moors. Would have been twice but the first time you manhealed.
You just got me 2 times (thanks to 8-10 hunters tracking me while the whole freep zerg waited at TR for who the hell knows what...) That will be my last time in the moors. Freeps are beyond sickening these days. I was gonna put up with it one more day for 5 stars, but not worth another day now...
I know what you mean warthag...was good seeing you out there, hope you come back someday when the freeps decide they want to fight.
All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer,
but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
~Sun Tzu
I got you once your first time in the moors. Would have been twice but the first time you manhealed.
You just got me 2 times (thanks to 8-10 hunters tracking me while the whole freep zerg waited at TR for who the hell knows what...) That will be my last time in the moors. Freeps are beyond sickening these days. I was gonna put up with it one more day for 5 stars, but not worth another day now...
my first time in the moors i was level 40 and got to r3, i hugged the zerg like no tomorrow, you probably got me when i came in my second time at level 46? that time by LC? but i don't think you killed me right? let me go at <100 or something, you are right i didn't count that,
yeah, me mendra and shadzor and dook were grouped and maybe 1-3 of the zerglings got you, sorry to see you go, maybe i will step in and try for 5 stars on stry, i may have a chance now that you are gone.
EDIT: i give the band wagon wargs 2 days before they forget all about trying to get kills by your example and go back to starhugging
I think you were 48, I don't think at 46 you could have beat me even with manheal. Probably not even 2v1. Though maybe back in the day before I ranked up and Turbine actually gave us anythign that worked. Can't remember how long ago it was. These days, 48-49 capt is a pretty good matchup for a ranked up Warg.
I mapped in to TR to about 6 tracked messages, which pushed me over by the res, and then 8 more tracked messages made me try to restealth and you guys ran into me. Shoulda just disappeared right off, but I figured i'd resist at least one snare and get away. Then mapped back in to 8 more tracked messages and the zerg basically sitting on the map point. Sprint came up about 2 seconds too late to do me any good. There's something completely and utterly wrong about 30 freeps hiding in a keep while a lone warg... admittedly starhugging to the point where I went from 600-1950 rating in 4 days... is taking far more risks than any of them. And it happens day after day after day.
Sitting at the back of zergs lets you see what's going on a lot better. It's extraordinarily lame these days. This morning at one point there were 3-4 of us at TA, and 15 freeps (5 LMs) trying to lure the 3-4 of us across SB, with 3 tar on the bridge. Awesome. There were only 3-4 of us left because they had been doing it for hours, and everyone got bored and logged off. Well, bored and logged off for good now.
I mapped in to TR to about 6 tracked messages, which pushed me over by the res, and then 8 more tracked messages made me try to restealth and you guys ran into me. Shoulda just disappeared right off, but I figured i'd resist at least one snare and get away. Then mapped back in to 8 more tracked messages and the zerg basically sitting on the map point. Sprint came up about 2 seconds too late to do me any good. There's something completely and utterly wrong about 30 freeps hiding in a keep while a lone warg... admittedly starhugging to the point where I went from 600-1950 rating in 4 days... is taking far more risks than any of them. And it happens day after day after day.
you were too busy star hugging to be involved in the South lug kerfluffle between 5-6 freeps and about 8-10 creeps, was great fun, creeps ended up with the upper hand, this all happened not 5 mins before we got you.
There are people trying to move the fight, there are people not afraid to die.
I'm really at a loss for words right now....For those of you who do not know, Warthag will no longer be joining us in the Moors. He has been deleted
Meneldor must have the worst freeps out of any server if you guys can get Warthag to delete his warg. This is very disheartening...seriously, I'm embarrassed for you guys. What's even worse is that 80% of the freeps reading this likely have no idea who warthag is(was)
Ugh, this is disgusting...we lost the best warg meneldor has known...maybe you guys should rethink your strategy the next time you want to hide behind 3 tars on SB, or you'll one day have no one left to fight.
All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer,
but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved.
~Sun Tzu
Creeps should also rethink their strategy, soloing for personal infamy gain is not how you can push a freep zerg. Freeps always raid, creeps never raid.
I'm really at a loss for words right now....For those of you who do not know, Warthag will no longer be joining us in the Moors. He has been deleted
Meneldor must have the worst freeps out of any server if you guys can get Warthag to delete his warg. This is very disheartening...seriously, I'm embarrassed for you guys. What's even worse is that 80% of the freeps reading this likely have no idea who warthag is(was)
Ugh, this is disgusting...we lost the best warg meneldor has known...maybe you guys should rethink your strategy the next time you want to hide behind 3 tars on SB, or you'll one day have no one left to fight.
I just started in the moors yesterday or so and this is pretty much all the creeps do it seems. The amount of complaints from the freeps about cheap creep tactics is probably about even with the amount of creep complaints about cheap freep tactics.
This morning, I log in and there are 8 creeps scamping GV. I couldn't even get a single stand up fight from a single creep. I'd charge one and they would run off till they got help. It was pretty cheap and really frustrating. I logged off after 30 minutes of trying to do anything against them.
At the risk of sounding rude, if you delete your toon out of frustration in PvP, well maybe your better off not doing pvp. It is a total teeter-totter back and forth and cheese is going to happen sadly, I'm sure the majority of you know. Being new to the scene I should probably just keep my mouth shut, but the amount of frustration is pretty high it seems on the freep side because of the amount of cheese employed by the creeps.
I'm having fun still regardless of the how the battles play out. Had a great battle under the bridge tonight with a warg, flyso had to come save me, but I was doing my best to keep it solo.
I'm having fun still regardless of the how the battles play out.
Every battle is on South bridge, or farming the bottom of TR. It never changes, never even come to thought of changing it. Blame the freep leaders for drawing the greenies there, the vet creeps come to help the greenies because if we dont the freeps are just free renowning.
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If the creeps want to, or atleast try to, prevent freeps from farming tr bottom floor, creeps should try being at tr before they go for it instead of getting caught sitting inside TA. Creeps should realise that tr is one of the most important keep to have, but doesnt seem to know it as they leave it wide open most of the time. And the reason they do so is cause TA is a "safer" place to be, which is no doubt true. But if the freeps take tr, it will means South Bridge farm session non-stop just because there is nothing else to do.. unless they have enough to try for lug, where they will prolly get trolled anyway. So, next time the creeps fight at TA while having and leaving TR open, you only have your self to blame for the South Bridge shuffle.
If you defend TR properly, it all ends up to the numbers.
Every battle is on South bridge, or farming the bottom of TR. It never changes, never even come to thought of changing it. Blame the freep leaders for drawing the greenies there, the vet creeps come to help the greenies because if we dont the freeps are just free renowning.
Just out of curiosity, why don't you take the battle elsewhere? Your raid looks just as big if not bigger then ours, we keep pulling back from the bridge and TA but it seems from our point of view at least that is the only place you guys go.
Just out of curiosity, why don't you take the battle elsewhere? Your raid looks just as big if not bigger then ours, we keep pulling back from the bridge and TA but it seems from our point of view at least that is the only place you guys go.
Did you not read my post? Mucho el reado?
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you were too busy star hugging to be involved in the South lug kerfluffle between 5-6 freeps and about 8-10 creeps, was great fun, creeps ended up with the upper hand, this all happened not 5 mins before we got you.
As for why SB battles happen... An and EC. All day long Freeps go to EC first, always have. Greenie creeps go to SB to kill An, which makes going to EC even more lucrative for freeps. And other creeps come to kill the freeps in EC.
Hotspots are too uneven and way too easy to flip when defended. TR HS and LUG HS are drastically in favor of freeps. LC HS is drastically in favor of creeps. The others are just out of the way with nothing interesting to bring freeps or creeps there.
Keep and bridge farming happen because of tar. Tar is the single most stupid thing Turbine has done with the game, and freeps are willing to just sit there behind tar all day long because it means free kills if anyone tries to get to them. To push a freep force out, once they're behind tar, takes such overwhelming creep force that it guarantees there will be no good fight. Either creeps have enough numbers that they can make it through the tar, in which case freeps are wiped easily, or creeps can't make it through the tar, in which case creeps are farmed.
Freeps have CC advantage, healing advantage, ranged dps advantage, aoe advantage, and mobility advantage (as a zerg, even though they shouldn't, just way too many creeps don't have their maps)
Creeps have single target melee dps advantage (at least relative to HPs)
Freeps choose where fights happen because of it. Creeps have to close on freeps to apply their advantage. Freeps can just stand off and apply their advantages.
then whats all this hoohaa about hiding in TR, so what if the main freep force was there? should you generalize that all freeps were there? nothing was forcing you to go to TR and get zerged
then whats all this hoohaa about hiding in TR, so what if the main freep force was there?
You really have to ask this? PvMP is there for fighting. If you want to sit around with a raid of fellows and do synchronized emotes, stick to the prancing pony. That's what the freeps were doing... that and spam tracking me.
should you generalize that all freeps were there?
You were at Lug res xroads for a couple minutes after it hit creep OOC. I showed up and within about a minute you had wiped. I was playing about 10 hours total, and roughly 1 minute of that time is fellow v fellow sized action. The rest of the day was either solo's getting ganked (me or them), hiding in npcs, or zergs (and even the solos were almost always on their way to the zergs/npcs). It's that way most days.
nothing was forcing you to go to TR and get zerged
Yah, I could have just waited at Lug for some freep to show up in a few days, or sat at TA with the creep zerg twiddling my thumbs. That's good gameplay, sure...
I map around all the time looking for fights. Most of my maps are on cooldowns almost constantly. It's not that I have to do so, it's that I have to do so to even have a slim chance of finding an interesting situation. That you don't understand this shows clearly how even the "good" freeps just don't get it. You think venturing out once or twice a night into a risky situation means you're living on the edge... while I'm constantly solo scouting freep in their own npc territory. Hell, I even do this when star-whoring. And what I find is freeps in npcs (EC all the time, Bears/HS near res ganking, their own keep)... and very very rarely, freeps doing quests in small groups. Grothum, Grimwood, Isen... all dead all the time. Even HH is a ghost town these days.
You log in your Warg and you suddenly "get it" though. Out looking for fights and not afraid to die over and over again. Most of the freeps who play creeps are that way. I don't know what changes freepside, but the result is really quite lame.
Yah, I could have just waited at Lug for some freep to show up in a few days, or sat at TA with the creep zerg twiddling my thumbs. That's good gameplay, sure...
You win some, you lose some, thats how it is, sometimes you map into em sometimes you map into nothing, there are other places to go, beats me why you mapped to the same place you got zerged
Originally Posted by Faineant
You think venturing out once or twice a night into a risky situation means you're living on the edge... while I'm constantly solo scouting freep in their own npc territory. Hell, I even do this when star-whoring. And what I find is freeps in npcs (EC all the time, Bears/HS near res ganking, their own keep)... and very very rarely, freeps doing quests in small groups. Grothum, Grimwood, Isen... all dead all the time. Even HH is a ghost town these days.
gameplay style, at the moment there is a HUGE reason to stick to the freep zerg, renown, and protection, for 90% renown>living on the edge, its much easier to leave the zerg creepside because there is no protection, and not very much infamy
Originally Posted by Faineant
You log in your Warg and you suddenly "get it" though. Out looking for fights and not afraid to die over and over again. Most of the freeps who play creeps are that way. I don't know what changes freepside, but the result is really quite lame.
i don't do this freepside? about 10% of my freep time, yes much less then creep i wander off checking keeps, looking for 1v1s, check HH, head up to the rez, usually solo, but every once in a while i'll hook up with a friend. can i reference that time in dwarf camp?
EDIT: i forget what we were arguing about, but this has turned into me saying the opposite of what you say, since i have a serious condition that obligates me to debate any given point, this is going to go on forever
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What kind of fool comes to the battlefield to sing rather than fight? A dead fool.
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