Thread: The Angler's Guide to Fishing in LOTRO

*** NOTE: As of Feb. 4, 2010, a new major update is being launched on the Bullroarer test server. Included in the release notes is information that there have been changes to the advancement, and to the regionalization of loot tables. Sounds like there's some big stuff. So in anticipation, I've dusted off this old forum. If there really are big changes, I'll set up a Bullroarer Angler's Guide and will link it from here. As before, anyone & everyone is welcome to post their experiences with the new system so we can figure it out together. Looking forward to learning what Turbine's done for (to???) us! ***

As of Feb. 5, 2010, the working thread for the Angler's Guide 2.0 will be: http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=316479. All input & thoughts are welcome!







*** NOTE: As of June 14, 2008, the Angler's Guide [/B]has its permanent home in the LOTRO Lorebook[B]. Thanks to Patience for choosing the Angler's Guide as one of the first to be highlighted & moved, and to Clover for transferring it so faithfully. The original Guide here has been removed to avoid any confusion.

However, as of July 18, 2008 this thread will remain my 1st point of reference in any discussions/questions/concerns/ideas/advice/info/whatever about any aspect of the Guide. The Forum setup is a -much- more robust place for discussion than the discussion tab on the wiki.With Book 14 coming out, I'm looking forward to hearing a few new tall tales!

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This is BS! YOu mean I can't fish up Helchi from CD????






Thanks for the post!

Awesome post! Thanks for the info!

fisher noob enthusiast signing up!! *raise hand*

Aye great thread. Appreciate your time invested in creating this for us.

Nice and thank you.

Nice job. I skimmed through it briefly since I'd like to try some things on my own first, but it's definitely a good idea. I'm glad my character can do woodworking

I have played briefly on Roheryn, although I've only caught Goldfish and one Giant Goldfish... lol.

Funny I've gone fishing my entire life and never caught any fish that had a recipe inside. They just don't seem to like the taste of paper no matter how many times I put it on my hook.

do you know where to get the recipes for the poles?

The yew pole recipe can be bought for sure from the novice woodworker in Michel Delving. I am guessing all novice woodworkers would sell them.

I do not know where to get the lebethron pole recipe from.

Originally Posted by aethelberht

RECIPES INVOLVING FISHING
....Fried Dace w/Mushrooms --- Apprentice Level (+2 Will, +6 crit), recipe from Cook
....Catfish Cakes --- Journeyman Level (+6 Will, +10 crit), recipe from Cook
....Perch Fillet --- Expert Level (+12 Will), recipe from Expert Cook
....Golden Mullet Chowder --- Artisan Level (+18 Will), recipe from Expert Cook
....Bass with Carrots & Onions --- Master Level (+??? Will), recipe from Expert Cook

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I'm curious - is the + crit to critical chance or a critical modifier. Being able to add 10 to your crit chance for half an hour (at which most stat foods last) would be pretty insane. Offhand I would guess that it just adds 10 to the amount you do when you crit (which is nothing big). Or do these foods have really short timers?

Crit is talking about the recipe, not adding to crit percentage.

You should get this stickied on the Gameplay forums. Or if they give us a Fishing/Hobbies forum, get it stickied there.

Originally Posted by Mikaela1

I'm curious - is the + crit to critical chance or a critical modifier. Being able to add 10 to your crit chance for half an hour (at which most stat foods last) would be pretty insane. Offhand I would guess that it just adds 10 to the amount you do when you crit (which is nothing big). Or do these foods have really short timers?

rofl +10% melee crit....

yah ill have a stack of those fishcake plz...

Wow, finally some different buffs from food, I like it!

Originally Posted by Khevin

The yew pole recipe can be bought for sure from the novice woodworker in Michel Delving. I am guessing all novice woodworkers would sell them.

I do not know where to get the lebethron pole recipe from.

lebethron recipe expert woodworker

LOL. Yeah, the crit value is how much Will the meal gives you if you make the critical version of the meal. So a regular catfish cake buffs your Will by 6, but a critical ("superior") catfish cake buffs your Will by 10.

Hopefully there are some MOB drop recipes that will give a little more depth to the litany of seafood delights. If anyone finds any, please drop a quick post here to let me know!

Oh, and I'd love to get this stickied once it gets its final home. What do I have to do? Just say, "Devs please stickie this, k-thx-bai"?

This is some really good info! I'll be helping fill that out once its live on all the servers Thank You!

I'm pretty happy that there's some food that gives +Will. And I like seafood, what more could you ask for?

My lynx wonders why my bear gets honey and oats but he doesn't get seafood.

Originally Posted by Borogrove

My lynx wonders why my bear gets honey and oats but he doesn't get seafood.

A little catfish for the cat maybe? I'm sure the raven would love some fishbits as well.

Good info here, thanks. I will be out fishing as soon as possible, just have a find a location that's not too crowded, lol.

From the previous thread:

Originally Posted by aethelberht

Woodsong, pretty much everything you mention is coming in at about 10 levels earlier than anybody else has been reporting (me included!). So either you're amazingly blessed, or you found some uber gear, or your build is bugged, or your numbers are off. I'd love to update the main page with your numbers, but I have to wait until at least one or two more people catch things at similar numbers. I'm thinking about rolling an alt or two to run through the list fresh, but haven't psyched myself up for it yet.

Hehe, I did forget to mention the gear I was using. The pole is the +4 Lebethron one, and I used no bait at all. Maybe it's like my grandpa used to say, that to catch fish you have to 'hold your mouth right'. LOL

Had I known of the thread before, I would have paid closer attention to details, but the ones I posted were accurate. Still, I certainly understand that you can't update based on just one report.

Hi all. I just ran another batch of 100 catches at Bucklebury this evening, this time using a +5 lebethron pole to compare against the regular +0 pole. Interesting results (and a new fish!). I've updated the main page with the info (down at the bottom, "Test #5").

Best to all, and looking forward to testing the live servers tomorrow!

Originally Posted by Woodsong

From the previous thread:

Hehe, I did forget to mention the gear I was using. The pole is the +4 Lebethron one, and I used no bait at all. Maybe it's like my grandpa used to say, that to catch fish you have to 'hold your mouth right'. LOL

Had I known of the thread before, I would have paid closer attention to details, but the ones I posted were accurate. Still, I certainly understand that you can't update based on just one report.

Oops. I rechecked my notes and found that I had looked at the wrong days when I posted the level(s) during which I caught what. So you were right, and that would indeed bring my results in line with other general reports. Sorry 'bout that. My bad. I'm about to go in now to cap the level for the day. I'll edit this post afterward if I find anything new or whatever.

Update: Fished levels 61-71, +4 pole, no bait, Breeland Homesteads.
Caught my first Redfin Darter at level 63, and my first Grayling after capping at 71 (this one doesn't say "rare" but it's worth 13c).

Very nice, this will come in handy!! Thank you!!!

Originally Posted by Woodsong

Oops. I rechecked my notes and found that I had looked at the wrong days when I posted the level(s) during which I caught what.

Ah-hah! And just when I was going to hunt you down and try to siphon some of that angling magic. Thanks for checking.

Originally Posted by Woodsong

Update: Fished levels 61-71, +4 pole, no bait, Breeland Homesteads. Caught my first Redfin Darter at level 63, and my first Grayling after capping at 71 (this one doesn't say "rare" but it's worth 13c).

Great news on the grayling! I'll try to cap on Roheryn with a +0 and see if we can figure out exactly when it comes in. For now I've put it up as about lvl 70.

So many varieties and we're only 1/3 of the way to the apparent cap. Can't wait to start training on the live servers.

Thanks for the info.

YW HellRazor (and everyone else). Just seemed like a fun way to help out. I'm just thrilled that Turbine's started their hobbies, and I hope this is the first of many.

I've just finished probably my last level cap on Roheryn since I'll start fresh live once the servers are up. Nothing new to report beyond the grayling that Woodsong snagged. Except that it definitely seemed to take longer to get the level cap today. What had been 5-7 minutes took 15 min today. Which personally I'm thrilled about. I like having to put a little bit of time into it to get the rewards; hope the trend continues.

When the servers go up, please feel free to post anything you come up with here. The more the merrier! Info like where you fished, what equipment/bait you used, what you caught, and what level you were will be a big help in making the chart accurate. And if you stumble on any recipes, quests, new vendors--whatever--that info would also be great.

Happy fishing.

What?! No Bass!!??!! No artificial baits...soft plastics, crankbaits, spinner baits, buzzbaits, jigs, spoons, chatterbaits, floating scum frogs? No graphite composite rods??? No fusion braid lines?? No reels? No $100 gas bill for the boat, $50 for the truck to be able to enter a tournament with a $100 entry fee and then fish all day and get only 1 bite....and not hook him up!??

Communism I say, pure bloody communism! I am bummed. Here I was looking forward to hookin a toad and I find out its bank fishing with live bait

Ok, I suppose I can bring myself to canepole fishing from the bank with live bait. Is drinking allowed while fishing? Do we now have coolers to keep the beer cold? Do we have fishing food at the vendors now...you know, packs of Nabs, potted meat, beanie-weinies, vienna sausages, sardines and crackers?

What of the pretty green water in Carn Dum? Any fish there?

Fisherman: "Hey, I got a bite in Carn Dum!" Sets hook and lands fish

Fisherman: "Now what the hell kinda fish is this?"

Fish: "A Dorkfish, note the buckteeth, 3 inch thick glasses and ball cap"

Fisherman: " A Dorkfish? How the hell did I catch a Dorkfish"

Fish: "Well, you WERE using corndogs for bait. I was just swimming along in this green water looking for careless Hobbit Toes to nibble on when I caught a whiff of corndog. You know how I love those corndogs and I just had to bite! Are you gonna let me go?"

Fisherman: "No way! Do you really think ANYONE is gonna believe I caught a Dorkfish without proof? Nupe, yer going on the wall right next to Billy Bass"

Credit to Bill Engvall for the inspiration for the above silliness

Just curious, do we know which bodies of water have fish in them and which are still empty? Or all they all fishable except the Moors and starter zones?

Originally Posted by Bechhold

Just curious, do we know which bodies of water have fish in them and which are still empty? Or all they all fishable except the Moors and starter zones?

On Roheryn everything was fishable except the Moors and the instances. And all locations seem to have all the kinds of fish. Somebody even went to the red pools of Haragmar or Agamaur in the LoneLands and snagged some of everything. (Maybe there's a wight-fish hanging around in there for when you get over level 100. Have to check. )

A very nice start for a fishing guide, thanks for your time and effort in compiling this info.

/signed for a sticky to wherever this thread ends up, pls-k-thx-bai

We're live!! I got my guy up to Fishing Level 12 before the cap, and have been able to catch goldfish, minnows, and one bitterling (no salmon yet, but could just be the luck of the draw). I've updated the main page with current info.

It looks like the Devs have made two tweaks:
(1) Bait does seem to matter now. I had a heck of a time levelling past 7 until I bought a Red Wiggler. Then I shot up to my cap in just a few minutes.
(2) The catch rate of trophy fish seems to have been clipped dramatically. Which I think is good; better chance of these trophies meaning something, and having real trading value. We'll see if the trend continues.

Happy fishing. And anything anyone has to report, I'm all ears.

Yeah, the drop rate on the trophies is definately less than it was on Roheryn. There, I was averaging about 3 every 10 minutes of fishing. Half an hour in (roughly 10 mins on 3 chars) and no trophies yet. Good deal, IMO.

Originally Posted by aethelberht

We're live!! I got my guy up to Fishing Level 12 before the cap, and have been able to catch goldfish, minnows, and one bitterling (no salmon yet, but could just be the luck of the draw). I've updated the main page with current info.

It looks like the Devs have made two tweaks:
(1) Bait does seem to matter now. I had a heck of a time levelling past 7 until I bought a Red Wiggler. Then I shot up to my cap in just a few minutes.
(2) The catch rate of trophy fish seems to have been clipped dramatically. Which I think is good; better chance of these trophies meaning something, and having real trading value. We'll see if the trend continues.

Happy fishing. And anything anyone has to report, I'm all ears.

good.

i was fishing with 4of my kinnies for 10min. they were thre for about 1hr. only 1 guy got 1 trophy the whole time.

Originally Posted by Kwinn

What?! No Bass!!??!! No artificial baits...soft plastics, crankbaits, spinner baits, buzzbaits, jigs, spoons, chatterbaits, floating scum frogs? No graphite composite rods??? No fusion braid lines?? No reels? No $100 gas bill for the boat, $50 for the truck to be able to enter a tournament with a $100 entry fee

Cain't hardly call that fishin' then can you?

they should make it that u can sit while fishing.

just my 2c.

And they should add bait that drops from things like stinging flies and midge swarms

Originally Posted by Senkeleron

And they should add bait that drops from things like stinging flies and midge swarms

thats a good idea.

but lets consolidate the wishlists to:
http://forums.lotro.com/showthread.php?t=134764



example: rare catch helchgam will only take ur bait if its Hoartusk's meat slab that randomly drops when u kill Hoartusk.

something i noticed with beginning pole the time between catching fish and catching mostly took 20 seconds with bait. every now and then i got a bite right after cast. but on average i counted 20 second between casting and catching.

also my cap hit at 11.

Thanks for that ekimocyc (Psycho Mike backwards?). About 20 seconds each on average with the basic +0 one sounds like a good start. I'm kind of bummed not to be using your +5 Bill Dance Catfish rod anymore. Unfortunately I don't have the same access to wads of cash here as on Roheryn.

And Senkeleron, that's a great idea! Good bait from sensible bait MOBs. Love it.