Thread: Nimrodel's First Peaceful PvMP Thread...

there is no pvp here, just keeps and alot of npc's that freeps/creeps rely on to force wipes of the other side and either consider it a roll or think they are farming

Originally Posted by faithvoid

At least I'm not the only bored and bitter PvMper out there. I don't know about you, but I'm glad I at least I got 8-9 months of fun outta it before it got so stale that I find myself logging in, joining a raid and being like 'what am I doing here?' and clicking the little exit game button.

Thats how i was for the week i was playing before i broke down and bought WoW, you got about the same amount of time out of pvp as i did, book 12 just made it stale, and i think sped up the proccess for some of us taking a break.

I love freep raids with koll leading them. They are amazing, and the most fun i've had in this game in ages.

Last night was a good laugh right before Thunderherald hit rank 7 (and congratulations to him on that!) and that sort of stuff I miss in the Ettenmoors. I just think it's more of the people that are there in the raids than the overall tactics.

When you have good people leading, and 23 other people listening, and everybody having a good time then the Ettenmoors can be great.

Now if only I can get that warrior title - creeps beware!

im too lazy to actually read anything in this thread, but i do have oen thing to say:

peace is so overrated

Originally Posted by Familiarity

Last night was a good laugh right before Thunderherald hit rank 7 (and congratulations to him on that!) and that sort of stuff I miss in the Ettenmoors. I just think it's more of the people that are there in the raids than the overall tactics.

When you have good people leading, and 23 other people listening, and everybody having a good time then the Ettenmoors can be great.

Now if only I can get that warrior title - creeps beware!

gratz thunder!

Originally Posted by putnal008

A wonderful story unfolded today...make of it what you will.

Earlier today I was a bit bored and short on silver. I decided to head on down to Hoarhallow after making a quick circuit of the map for solo targets. Once down there I began to fight the NPC's at the south end of the island and collect root, twigs and branches from the area. After a short time at this I noticed my computer rendering something, and as I have come to recognize, there were freeps in the immediate vicinity.

So I get into stealth and begin to investigate. I find Graf(captain, lvl 50) chasing a Rank 1 reaver through the fields, soon to be joined by Dafromanz(champion, lvl 50). I follow and fail to see if they managed to defeat their target. Shortly there after a third joins their number, Higiliak(hunter, lvl 47). They begin to move around, hunting other players. Higiliak constantly tracked, though they must have seen I was close, they never tracked me but I kept my distance all the same. They began to migrate towards the spider lair ENE of Hoarhallow and west of the Lumber Camp in Grimwood. They were then joined by a fourth, Madame(burglar, lvl 47). Not long after this I noticed Graf reading a lovely looking piece of parchment, with which he seemed to be recalling somewhere he had once been.

Knowing my chances at following him were slim, I decided to tail the other three Heroes. It wasn't too long before they lost their composure and Dafromanz was left behind by Higiliak and Madame, who proceeded to swim across the Hoardale to the north.

Seeing this, I took my chances. I came from stealth with my claws and after tough times and circle strafing I managed to take down that pesky hunter all the while Madame did her best to protect their hides. Once Higiliak was defeated I began to move onto the burglar, attempting to place slows and bleeds on them in the case they tried to escape my clutches. Not too long into our bout, Dafromanz appeared from the river and I decided to rejoin with my long time friend, stealth.

Now that Dafro had choosen to disrupt our fun, I began to harass the two with claws and stuns, all the while playing hit and run. Stun one while they attempted to mount up, knock the second off their already mounted horse, and so on. Madame apparently did not appreciate this as she soon managed to slip my grasp and left back towards Hoarhallow. I saw my chance...I brought Dafromanz down and took my chances. I quickly burnt down little more than half of his morale when he decided to use his Strength of Morale and continue the fight. We rounded each other, pounding away. Once I began to get low on morale I popped my lovely new potion which restores around one thousand and five hundred morale. At this point he seemed to sense his defeat and turned tail. I initiated my run down sequence and managed to get him just before he ran into those horrible troll NPCs.

Thinking all was done, I saluted Dafro for his fight in the only way I can...I howled in thanks for his blood. Apparently he wasn't happy with this and shortly after I spotted Madame coming to rejoin the fight. I managed to get into stealth just as she made it into range. Opening with a pounce and following up with some fast and heavy damage, I forced her to use Strength of Morale also and she promptly HiPS'd when the fight was clearly mine. Whether because of inexperience or mis placed confidence, she uncloaked while swimming the river, and I gave chase. Beginning the fight again on the far shore, I managed to force her yet again to HiPS, but not before I managed to land a nasty bleed. Shortly thereafter she reappeared, attempting to make it into the Elven encampment not far off. With Touch and Go up, the damage just wasn't being done, so I used one last tactic. Disappear to regain stealth, after which I followed her into the Elf Camp and defeated her with my claws just meters from First Marshall An.

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Was an invigorating battle, and very nice to see that some players are still out there willing to attempt small group/solo battles on the fringe of the carnage.



For those disbelievers...below is my chat log capture. And for the doubters, a screenie of the time of day with the in game message for the saving of the chat log.

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### Chat Capture: General 03/26 04:22 PM ###
You've earned 3 destiny points.
The Krahjarn Iron-defender defeated the Coldfells Hunter.
You've earned 3 destiny points.
You've earned 3 destiny points.
The Krahjarn Iron-defender defeated the Coldfells Hunter.
You've earned 3 destiny points.
The Krahjarn Iron-defender defeated the Coldfells Hunter.
Thistledown Charger threatens to attack!
Too far away.
Your mighty blow defeated Coldfells Hunter.
You've earned 2 destiny points.
Too far away.
You must face target.
Shakgaash defeated Coldfells Hunter.
Too far away.
Cannot harm target.
Shakgaash defeated Coldfells Hunter.
Your mighty blow defeated Coldfells Hunter.
You've earned 2 destiny points.
Your mighty blow defeated Coldfells Hunter.
You've earned 2 destiny points.
Your action was interrupted.
You cannot do that right now.
Your mighty blow defeated Hoarhallow Farmer.
You've earned 4 destiny points.
Your action was interrupted.
You cannot do that right now.
Not enough Power.
Shakgaash defeated Hoarhallow Gardener.
Your mighty blow defeated Hoarhallow Gardener.
You've earned 2 destiny points.
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Your mighty blow defeated Coldfells Hunter.
You've earned 2 destiny points.
The target is dead.
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Your mighty blow defeated Coldfells Hunter.
You've earned 2 destiny points.
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You must face target.
Too far away.
Your mighty blow topples Higiliak.
You've earned 54 infamy points.
You've earned 27 destiny points.
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Your action was interrupted.
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Your mighty blow topples Dafromanz.
You've earned 110 infamy points.
You've earned 55 destiny points.
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Coldfells Champion says, ''Strike true against these whelps of Angmar!''
Your mighty blow topples Madame.
You've earned 120 infamy points.
You've earned 60 destiny points.
Invalid target.
Madame has succumbed to her wounds.
Coldfells Champion says, ''Split their skulls and they'll no longer rise!''

haha i remember that: awesome job

it bothers me that burgs HIPS during a 1v1 combat when it doesn't go their way.. just bad form.

Originally Posted by Thorandril

it bothers me that burgs HIPS during a 1v1 combat when it doesn't go their way.. just bad form.

As do wargz

Heck they'll even HIPS when it's 5 v 1 against me. But burgs would probably do the same, although I dont think a creep could burn a burg down that low when being pounded on by 4 others xD

Originally Posted by Thorandril

it bothers me that burgs HIPS during a 1v1 combat when it doesn't go their way.. just bad form.

I couldn't disagree more. Whether a burg is incredibly overpowered in pvp is one thing, but I use and expect others to use every skill they have to win and not die for the benefit of the group. I expect hunters to DF and if they don't they are probably stupid (not brave). I expect a warg to disappear and try and escape or make it back for the bubble and if they don't they aren't playing to their fullest or supporting the group. There are always exceptions to this but I certainly don't consider it bad form to use all the skills available.

Originally Posted by FyreBrand

I couldn't disagree more. Whether a burg is incredibly overpowered in pvp is one thing, but I use and expect others to use every skill they have to win and not die for the benefit of the group. I expect hunters to DF and if they don't they are probably stupid (not brave). I expect a warg to disappear and try and escape or make it back for the bubble and if they don't they aren't playing to their fullest or supporting the group. There are always exceptions to this but I certainly don't consider it bad form to use all the skills available.

Uh thats not my point at all, you said group combat, I said 1v1. Leaving a 1v1 via DF or HIPS is just a way of showing that you're an opportunist that isn't willing to die when you can just escape using an easy button that not all classes have the privelege of.

Originally Posted by Thorandril

Uh thats not my point at all, you said group combat, I said 1v1. Leaving a 1v1 via DF or HIPS is just a way of showing that you're an opportunist that isn't willing to die when you can just escape using an easy button that not all classes have the privelege of.

Indeed

Why enter or accept a 1 v 1 when you have no intention on dying even if the odds that you will are fairly high? It's just stupid and a waste of time

Originally Posted by Thorandril

Uh thats not my point at all, you said group combat, I said 1v1. Leaving a 1v1 via DF or HIPS is just a way of showing that you're an opportunist that isn't willing to die when you can just escape using an easy button that not all classes have the privelege of.

Escaping is definitely part of winning. People do it in other games all the time. Standing there and taking a beating you can't win seems foolish to me. Somewhere in this game we invented some odd rules about pvp that we expect other people to adhere to.

When the Delving came out some burg tried to gank me from Grams to DG on my BA. He wasn't very good and I would make it to the NPC's before he could kill me and he couldn't quite stand up to a few NPCs plus having me root/snare/DOT him. I think it would have been stupid of me to feed him renown and try and solo him and I felt good about getting away. I also think it was smart of him to leave until he could get an opportune moment. He called some freep friends to help but I made it to DG by then.

So my point is that you shouldn't expect other people to play by rules that a subset of players invent. The only real rule I have (or had) was that if you're grouping to support the group to the best of your ability. Even though I hate cross vent communication and flipping they aren't rules I cant expect others to adhere to.

Originally Posted by FyreBrand

Escaping is definitely part of winning. People do it in other games all the time. Standing there and taking a beating you can't win seems foolish to me. Somewhere in this game we invented some odd rules about pvp that we expect other people to adhere to.

When the Delving came out some burg tried to gank me from Grams to DG on my BA. He wasn't very good and I would make it to the NPC's before he could kill me and he couldn't quite stand up to a few NPCs plus having me root/snare/DOT him. I think it would have been stupid of me to feed him renown and try and solo him and I felt good about getting away. I also think it was smart of him to leave until he could get an opportune moment. He called some freep friends to help but I made it to DG by then.

So my point is that you shouldn't expect other people to play by rules that a subset of players invent. The only real rule I have (or had) was that if you're grouping to support the group to the best of your ability. Even though I hate cross vent communication and flipping they aren't rules I cant expect others to adhere to.

If a burg has to HiPS out of a 1v1 it means they're totally ****ing incompetent and can't even beat a solo creep with the most godmode PvP class. Escaping is acknowleding that you can't actually defeat your enemy, and is thus an acknowledgement of defeat.

My Milkshake Brings All The Brothers To The Yard!

Originally Posted by TSRX

If a burg has to HiPS out of a 1v1 it means they're totally ****ing incompetent and can't even beat a solo creep with the most godmode PvP class. Escaping is acknowleding that you can't actually defeat your enemy, and is thus an acknowledgement of defeat.

Yep and bingo. If you have to run away then you are defeated to a point. There is nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Why give up your gold/renown/infamy/items for a total nuke defeat? Whats the purpose in that? This game has no real pvp penalty. Hell it barely has a pve death penalty so maybe you don't care if you die, but most competative pvp games have some sort of penalty (you drop money, items, and/or lose status and xp).

Pulling back to make another attack seems like a much smarter strategy than just sitting there and dying.

And yes that burg wasn't very good, but he was persistent. I'm sure with much more practice he's now ganking the hell out of newbie creeps.

If you accept a 1V1, fight for a while and then run away once you realize that you are screwed you are nothing more than a coward. there is no penalty, unless you are a R10 with 5stars and you get killed by a greenie with a zero rating your rating will not drop more than 10. It is disrespectful and cheap to deny your victorous opponent with well earned renown/infamy.

That is if you ACCEPT the 1v1, if you know that there is no way that you'll win and or dont feel like fighting then whatever, df hips or sprint away!

Originally Posted by FyreBrand

Yep and bingo. If you have to run away then you are defeated to a point. There is nothing wrong with that in my opinion. Why give up your gold/renown/infamy/items for a total nuke defeat? Whats the purpose in that? This game has no real pvp penalty. Hell it barely has a pve death penalty so maybe you don't care if you die, but most competative pvp games have some sort of penalty (you drop money, items, and/or lose status and xp).

You should die because if you fight in the 1v1, you accept the challenge of it and you think you can win. If you run away without trying to fight in the first place then you either don't think you can win or you're just a starhugger, but I guess go ahead and try to get away. But accepting a 1v1, fighting it down till you have 500 health and then hitting HiPS is just pathetic.

Originally Posted by reuben303998

If you accept a 1V1, fight for a while and then run away once you realize that you are screwed you are nothing more than a coward. there is no penalty, unless you are a R10 with 5stars and you get killed by a greenie with a zero rating your rating will not drop more than 10. It is disrespectful and cheap to deny your victorous opponent with well earned renown/infamy.

That is if you ACCEPT the 1v1, if you know that there is no way that you'll win and or dont feel like fighting then whatever, df hips or sprint away!

Originally Posted by TSRX

You should die because if you fight in the 1v1, you accept the challenge of it and you think you can win. If you run away without trying to fight in the first place then you either don't think you can win or you're just a starhugger, but I guess go ahead and try to get away. But accepting a 1v1, fighting it down till you have 500 health and then hitting HiPS is just pathetic.

Like I said you guys can make up your own rules and create your own honor system all you want but no one has to accept it. In fact most people probably don't read these forums and have no idea what kind of convoluted system you've created to make yourselves feel like better pvp players.

There is no penalty at all in this game at all. There is a minor repair bill (big deal), but no real incentive to survive. Stars mean nothing. If you were say to lose 10% of your wealth or drop your weapon or armour you were wearing or perhaps delevel then you would consider how cowardly living to the next fight really is. Who cares about starhugging. Why do people "hug stars"? Because it's a way to try and add value and merit to a meritless casual intramural style of pvp.

Originally Posted by FyreBrand

There is no penalty at all in this game at all. There is a minor repair bill (big deal), but no real incentive to survive. Stars mean nothing. If you were say to lose 10% of your wealth or drop your weapon or armour you were wearing or perhaps delevel then you would consider how cowardly living to the next fight really is. Who cares about starhugging. Why do people "hug stars"? Because it's a way to try and add value and merit to a meritless casual intramural style of pvp.

What's your point, I really don't understand. There's no real incentive to survive? Okay, then running away from a 1v1 is stupid. So you agree.

Originally Posted by TSRX

What's your point, I really don't understand. There's no real incentive to survive? Okay, then running away from a 1v1 is stupid. So you agree.

Did we really have points here? LOL I think there is about as much point to discussing pvp ethics as there is to pvp itself.

PREP...

was it really necessary to call in another defiler after going at it for that long..

thought we had a good thing going there

</3

Well thank you for proving yourself wrong. Amurard is right, its pathetic to run away. If you are afraid of dying stay out of the moors. If someone im soloing pulls that **** you better believe ill spend at least the rest of the night hunting them down, if they die with "Honor" I might even jump around them next time as a friendly gusture :-)

Originally Posted by reuben303998

Well thank you for proving yourself wrong. Amurard is right, its pathetic to run away. If you are afraid of dying stay out of the moors. If someone im soloing pulls that **** you better believe ill spend at least the rest of the night hunting them down, if they die with "Honor" I might even jump around them next time as a friendly gusture :-)

No one has proven anything. All that's been proven is people on our server invent a bunch of arbitrary rules and expect other people to abide by them. You can't expect that. That was really my original point. Obviously we disagree and aren't going to convince each other. I do admit there isn't any reason not to die in this game because it has not penalty. That's pretty lame pvp though. It also means that victory pretty much is meaningless as well.

This conversation is funny. It all boils down to perspective. After all the push and pull action we all see in the 'moors, I'm surprised many of you don't understand that retreat can be as much a part of success as it is defeat. Retreat does not always equal defeat or loss. Take, for example, Lee in the Civil War. His army would push, kill many soldiers from the Union army, retreat to recompose, regather, reposition themselves, and push again; rinse/repeat. He was very successful in doing so until Grant came along and decided to continuously push his army while Lee was retreating.

Thus, in context, use of escape skills can be strategic moves to recompose, regather and reposition ones self to go at it again. If the rule is to the death, then a living HIPS/Disappear/DF'er has not died, and thus has not lost - though he hasn't won yet either.

Originally Posted by olagaton

This conversation is funny. It all boils down to perspective. After all the push and pull action we all see in the 'moors, I'm surprised many of you don't understand that retreat can be as much a part of success as it is defeat. Retreat does not always equal defeat or loss. Take, for example, Lee in the Civil War. His army would push, kill many soldiers from the Union army, retreat to recompose, regather, reposition themselves, and push again; rinse/repeat. He was very successful in doing so until Grant came along and decided to continuously push his army while Lee was retreating.

Thus, in context, use of escape skills can be strategic moves to recompose, regather and reposition ones self to go at it again. If the rule is to the death, then a living HIPS/Disappear/DF'er has not died, and thus has not lost - though he hasn't won yet either.

General Lee wasn't fighting Grant one-on-one, was he?

Originally Posted by TSRX

General Lee wasn't fighting Grant one-on-one, was he?

I bet he used Feign Death, huh?

lol i knew if we talked long enough slither would come out of his hole. Well, what you said was completely irrelivant and typical justifacation for being a pansy. I believe that you sould use your skills like dissapear to beable to repounce and stun your opponent. You and you on your other account are talking about running away with your tails between your legs with no intentsion of coming back to finish the fight.

I agree that the penalty for dying is slim to none, but I think if they incorporated a harsher penalty nobody would fight 1v1, they would be "Using all thier skills" aka hiding in the middle of the raidshooting ppl with thier bows.

Originally Posted by Salzor

ooo I'm so scared :/ The penalty for death in this game is so low that if you run in 1v1, I'm calling you a pansy forever, I don't care if other people follow along but the two things i try not to do in 1v1 are heal and run.

That's your own rule. That's cool. I personally think healers should heal in 1v1's, if they have them available. Not using them is a poor move on their part - whether their intentions are honorable or not. I have beaten every class in the game 1v1, so it's not like it's impossible to beat someone that does use all their skills. Therefore, there is no real reason why someone should be forced/convinced to hold back. Assuming the 1v1 isn't some type of preliminary, if you choose not to use all the tools given to you, that's your decision, but don't expect your opponent to do the same. Assuming the 1v1 isn't some type of preliminary, if you choose not to use all you have, and you lose - you lose, plain and simple.

Why the hell did you bring Gurthag in btw? Optima is a tribemate #1 and #2 if the thread catches fire (like 100% of all the other threads) then that's sad and annoying but it's not like he alone can stop it.

Hmm, I wonder. Gurthag asked to keep the thread peaceful, and his tribemate can't even honor his request.

Sure I could tell you to shut up and quit trying to make it seem like you are heroic when in fact you are running away, and that accomplishes what? Sure I get a moment of exictement from telling you to shove it but it's not going to stop you from posting.

Feel free to. Just because someone says that running away is cowardly doesn't mean it is - that's a matter of opinion, and in this case an all-or-nothing opinion. However, when someone runs away, and then is able use that to an advantage which allows him a victory, that is evidence (not opinion) that running away can be used in a non-cowardly, but instead strategic manner. One example to disprove an all-or-nothing opinion is all it takes to make that opinion lose weight. It was once said that to win a debate, you need not prove that you're right, but simply prove that your opponent is wrong. It works quite well, actually.

P.S. Who the hell uses an actual War to justify a video game???

LOL, who uses Real Life stuff to justify actions in a video game? Just....Everyone.

RANDOM INTERJECTION

If it is a set up 1v1 fight, and you run away, you have lost.

If it is a random encounter, then both players could have won.

The person who almost beat the other because he did more damage
and the person that got away, because the other person did not kill him.

This is merely my interpertation on the subject.

you lost the bet, gosh thats to bad . I couldnt ignore it forever! Im off to ignoring you again :-)

Originally Posted by olagaton

This conversation is funny. It all boils down to perspective. After all the push and pull action we all see in the 'moors, I'm surprised many of you don't understand that retreat can be as much a part of success as it is defeat. Retreat does not always equal defeat or loss. Take, for example, Lee in the Civil War. His army would push, kill many soldiers from the Union army, retreat to recompose, regather, reposition themselves, and push again; rinse/repeat. He was very successful in doing so until Grant came along and decided to continuously push his army while Lee was retreating.

Thus, in context, use of escape skills can be strategic moves to recompose, regather and reposition ones self to go at it again. If the rule is to the death, then a living HIPS/Disappear/DF'er has not died, and thus has not lost - though he hasn't won yet either.

Lee totally would have won if he'd taken the Gettysburg hotspot.

Drop it here people...the subject has been covered and entered the flaming stages.

Drop it...

Or, if you cannot do so, start another thread.

Let us all help amu get his last point.

Originally Posted by faithvoid

Lee totally would have won if he'd taken the Gettysburg hotspot.

LMAO, the Confederates were faced with too much dread and power-poison dot.

Part of me wants to kill Turbine >< I had a error when I DL'd book 13 so I have to Reinstall Lotro. I'm at 11000/14000... so I'll be on my defiler at lunch...for the first time...

I wish I had hoarded DP before this but I'll do fine I guess. Also I feel sorry for all the weavers out there, I loved playing Salzor but now I'm really thinking about reseting him for the name haha he is only R5 but i poured a lot of time into him, only to have his only tool become the same as hindering shot. Maybe this was a conspiracy to make BA's more playable >.>

Originally Posted by MrBaileyBurt

I love freep raids with koll leading them. They are amazing, and the most fun i've had in this game in ages.

Safest captain ever to have in your raid in the Moors. Simple as that. We've had a few unbelievably fun and exciting raids recently, I must say. More!

Originally Posted by empen

RANDOM INTERJECTION

If it is a set up 1v1 fight, and you run away, you have lost.

If it is a random encounter, then both players could have won.

The person who almost beat the other because he did more damage
and the person that got away, because the other person did not kill him.

This is merely my interpertation on the subject.

what about if you initiate a 1v1 spar and the creep you wanted to spar 1v1 brings about 20 others to gank you?

Originally Posted by dafroisweet

what about if you initiate a 1v1 spar and the creep you wanted to spar 1v1 brings about 20 others to gank you?

then it's outside interference, and the whole thing is null and void etc.

Originally Posted by dafroisweet

what about if you initiate a 1v1 spar and the creep you wanted to spar 1v1 brings about 20 others to gank you?

I hate when people do that on either side, and I try to not call in people but sometimes someone runs by and thinks "doh infamy over here guys!" and the cool 1v1 turns into a gank

Originally Posted by Salzor

I hate when people do that on either side, and I try to not call in people but sometimes someone runs by and thinks "doh infamy over here guys!" and the cool 1v1 turns into a gank

As a roving warg, it's not easy for me to tell the difference between "playful creep sparring with freep buddy" and "innocent creep fighting to survive against evil freep." If someone's having trouble in an engagement with the enemy, my tendency is to jump in, attack, try to keep them alive, and ask the questions later. Because it's less frustrating for a sparring pair to have to restart than it is for a questing creep to end up splattered all over the nearest rez circle.

Maybe start wearing afk tags saying "Sparring, do not disturb" if you don't want well-intentioned help?