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    Quite possibly, it depends... Leaving aside...

    Quite possibly, it depends...


    Leaving aside the whole 'elemental' thing and the inherent silliness of waving a rock about in battle, what doesn't fit is the core concept of a class that focuses...
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    There's no reason why they couldn't, it's just...

    There's no reason why they couldn't, it's just that Turbine elected to go for 'flashy' rather than 'gritty', presumably trying to be crowd-pleasing. Hence also stereotypical fantasy RPG tropes like...
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    Quite a while afterwards, they had nothing to do...

    Quite a while afterwards, they had nothing to do with it at all.
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    Missing the point as ever, with this "it's a...

    Missing the point as ever, with this "it's a game" sort of argument: it's not whether lore gets 'broken' by additions, plainly, it's all down to the style in which it is. Whether changes are inspired...
  5. And as ever, two wrongs don't make a right.

    And as ever, two wrongs don't make a right.
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    - as Tolkien had it, the Dunedain of Cardolan...

    - as Tolkien had it, the Dunedain of Cardolan grew few in number and made the Barrow-downs their last dwelling-place. Those last few were subsequently wiped out by the Great Plague, unsurprisingly...
  7. Actually yes, it does because there's no scope...

    Actually yes, it does because there's no scope for the sort of really wealthy merchant families who'd be into 'vying for influence', either. Bree wasn't like some Renaissance-era Italian city-state...
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    Only because I'm getting mellow in my old age :p

    Only because I'm getting mellow in my old age :p
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    We're talking about LOTR here, and hobbits...

    We're talking about LOTR here, and hobbits weren't known for going off on adventures except in Gandalf's company. As for Smeagol, there'd been hobbits living in the Vales of Anduin at the time the...
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    That's your problem right there. No, there's no...

    That's your problem right there. No, there's no sensible scope for any weird carnivorous creepy-crawlies; that's a daft suggestion given that this is Rohan we're talking about, a really rather...
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    Hardly. Check the book, there's no scope for...

    Hardly. Check the book, there's no scope for anything nasty to come calling because the valley was full of trees.

    The 'official' word is:

    'Let the Orcs lie,' said Gandalf. 'The morning may...
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    Race changes are taboo due to classic RPG...

    Race changes are taboo due to classic RPG considerations, the core concept of what a 'character' is. It affects character development, albeit to a slight degree here, but nonetheless that makes it...
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    Or rather that this thread's been dead for a week...

    Or rather that this thread's been dead for a week because nobody but you gave a damn about it, which is damning as far as your claims of popular support go.
  14. There's more to it than that: bringing modern...

    There's more to it than that: bringing modern societal norms to a classic fantasy in such a ham-handed manner would be a travesty. Turbine are already doing the smart thing by leaving well enough...
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    ...to ignore the story and come up with stuff...

    ...to ignore the story and come up with stuff that'd be lame in a Saturday morning cartoon, let alone here. Nobody would be wasting time doing things like attacking tiny fishing villages on the...
  16. Turbine are ever likely to stay clear of it...

    Turbine are ever likely to stay clear of it because people take it way too seriously, as you are doing here, so that what should be just a bit of RP fluff gets lumped in with 'supporting ... dignity...
  17. Get real, raids in this game are like the...

    Get real, raids in this game are like the complete opposite of lore, easily the most lore-breaking things in the whole enterprise. Calling Isengard compelling for lore reasons is a joke, it's an...
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    Still not got the map out, I see. Well, wake me...

    Still not got the map out, I see. Well, wake me up when you've managed to have a proper look. There were only something like twenty to thirty miles between the mouth of the Serni and the mouths of...
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    Get the damn map out and look where that is. It...

    Get the damn map out and look where that is. It *would* be great exaggeration to suppose that the Corsairs had the manpower to attack anywhere and everywhere further west. They probably would have...
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    You need to get the map out, mate: it was...

    You need to get the map out, mate: it was south-eastern Gondor that was attacked. There was ongoing fighting at the Pelargir when Aragorn & Co. showed up.


    And watch while the Dead own all the...
  21. Right back at you, when it comes to how you latch...

    Right back at you, when it comes to how you latch on to things in the book, regardless of context.


    Tolkien could hardly have been thinking of what the game calls a Captain when he called them...
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    No, mate, because the Horse-lords didn't own the...

    No, mate, because the Horse-lords didn't own the mearas. Those had to gave their consent to be ridden, and then only by the Lord of the Mark and his sons (and a certain Wizard, of course). So, the...
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    Err... she goes on record as implying that he's...

    Err... she goes on record as implying that he's wiser than she herself is and that's a direct quote from LOTR, never mind UT. I think you're confusing power with wisdom; she's inarguably far more...
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    Hang on, 'gods' = Valar, surely. The Maiar were...

    Hang on, 'gods' = Valar, surely. The Maiar were only the 'angelic' servants of the 'gods'.

    As for Celeborn, Galadriel herself refers to him as 'Celeborn the Wise' and goes on to say:

    '...the...
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    You seem to have misunderstood all right, to the...

    You seem to have misunderstood all right, to the point of ignoring the rest of what I've said. You don't have any real 'idea', you just have this 'and goats too' thing going on. And never mind what...
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