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I should have said "successfully" tank Orthanc Tier 2.

Granted, I could see tanking Tier two if I stack the group to make up for how terrible the Warden class is.
(read: 2 healers...

The new 3 and 6 man instances, Tier 1 or Tier 2, do NOT need a "tank" per se. so please quit using them as examples of "hey, the Warden isn't all bad".

The new Raid T1 has some difficult...

It is high time they were fixed.

The current state of the Class is unacceptable.

If a DPS class was suddenly doing 50% less damage after the Isen update because of some (cough) unforseen back...

The game has two tank classes.

Of course the two will be compared.

I really don't understand why this has not been fixed yet.

If a DPS class was doing 50% less DPS after the Isen update...

You've not Main Tanked Orthanc Tier 2 successfully.

It is impossible at this time with the current state of the Warden Class.

Pre-Isen I would agree.

Down the road after who knows how many updates it might be true again.

Right now the best Warden in the game is < Average Guard.

Nobody bashing the class. Rather we are bashing the people at Turbine that screwed up royally huge re: the Warden and refuse to fix it.

The Warden Class should never have been allowed to get as...

Of course a Waden CAN tank anything in the game.

If you stack up enough support classes and healers to bolster 'em up then yeah, they do fine in the new raid.

What is upsetting is the...

That's odd.

Maybe it is because we are strat breaking on Tier 2 for the new Raid but this past Wed. night we went in T1 and just face rolled through everything. We have been working on one wing...

I waited to post this until I had a good opportunity to try out the changes made to the Warden in Update 5 and had a chance to tank all the new instances (T2 of course) a couple of times and poked my...

You miss my point.

Why would a group bring you (or me) into a run when they can get any average Guardian to do the same role we provide with much less effort to the group?

It isn't that a...

Did the run as well T2 and you are correct, our SI isn't working

Also...

I went in with me tanking on Warden, a guard in OP for DPS, and an RK for heals.

I found that when the boss started...

Orion,

would it be at all possible to watch you tank an instance while playing a Warden?

Heck, I would be happy with something as simple as a GB trio.

Simple enough to Fraps a run and post...

Actually, they are not fixed in the Dec. update.

They will be slightly tweaked, but still broken.

Wardens have to wait ANOTHER 4-5 months for update 6 for the actual "fix" to happen.


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Of course I did.

I WILL say that I solo'd one of the 78k morale War Trolls that wander about Isengard and it was MUCH easier.

When I did that a few weeks back on Live I went in with +vit food,...

"This will be rectified meaning that the HoTs will be significantly higher." -Orion

Uhhh.... no they didn't.

Comparing my heals on Live vs. BullRoarer 3 went DOWN not up.

Now
BR
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Has said birdy noticed any back end changes or can tell us how much HoT's scaled?

Just trying to figure out what your are thinking here so bear with me...

My Warden went from 8.8k to 15.2k morale unbuffed.

Lets just call it a 75% increase to morale.

My Warden is now...

IF changes to medium armor mitigation are made at the same time, and it fixes the Warden being so durn squishy, then I agree that a @70% boost to our HoT's will be sufficient.

If no changes are...

One important key to the last boss fight in Dark Delvings is interrupts.

Make sure you have a champ/burg standing behind the boss and interrupting his inductions.

No inductions = no punts = a...

Hunters are the number 1 single target DPS class in the game.

Period.

There is nothing wrong with using Strength Stance now. It USED to be that S:S added threat but that was recently changed.

To understand what skills to use and why, you have to understand the...

Grats Shlorty!

I'll chime in here from three different perspectives.


I will start with my being a tank for Highsidir.

He is indeed a beast to hold aggro from. You will find posts on the Warden forum by me...

If you can hold aggro, or even TAKE aggro, after one Aggression, you are running with some horrible DPS'rs.

I have a Champ in my kin that it takes 3 Aggressions to pull aggro off them.

I have a...