TDM Trouble!

zaragorne · #1 Nov 04 2009, 07:45 PM

I play LOTRO when i go to turbine download manager to update so i can play on live again it says "Queued to Download" and will not download though for dungeons and dragons online it says "Download" does anyone know if i have to download DDO to update LOTRO or what exactly is happening to my TDM???Now it wont even let me download DDO?!

**Alquariel** · #2 Nov 17 2009, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by zaragorne

I play LOTRO when i go to turbine download manager to update so i can play on live again it says "Queued to Download" and will not download though for dungeons and dragons online it says "Download" does anyone know if i have to download DDO to update LOTRO or what exactly is happening to my TDM???Now it wont even let me download DDO?!

If TDM is only offering you DDO, then you have most likely gotten the DDO download manager by mistake. I would recommend uninstalling TDM, grabbing TDM again from the LOTRO Download Page, and installing that client.

For future reference, the Download Manager is set to download the franchise associated with it by default, though we have added multifranchise function, allowing LOTRO players to download DDO and vice versa. If you download the DDO TDM, you will need to download and launch DDO before you will be offered the option to download LOTRO. You can, however, circumvent this process by uninstalling the default game client. Both games should then appear as available to download in your TDM window.

As far as your second problem, it sounds as though TDM simply seized up. Reinstallation should fix that; if it doesn't, please let us know, and we will investigate further.

Good luck, and good gaming!

Darej · #3 Nov 17 2009, 06:46 PM

better yet...just avoid using the TDM altogether.

it has been nothing but trouble sionce the very first day it was made available.

it is a p.o.s. and i am unsure why Turbine continues to push it on folks.

get the client WITHOUT the TDM....you will be much happier.

obievil · #4 Nov 19 2009, 01:21 PM

My issues with TDM is that I installed windows 7 then installed DDO. When I installed Win7 I didn't want to have to re-install and re-download ALL of the updates.. it takes for bloody ever... so I just copied them over to the default Program files (x86)\ location. The TDM that I got for DDO Wants me to download LOTRO. Can't get it to recognize that I already have it "installed".

What i'd rather do is download all current and available updates so I can archive them locally, so I don't have to wait for the launcher/TDM to download it

**Alquariel** · #5 Nov 19 2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by obievil

My issues with TDM is that I installed windows 7 then installed DDO. When I installed Win7 I didn't want to have to re-install and re-download ALL of the updates.. it takes for bloody ever... so I just copied them over to the default Program files (x86)\ location. The TDM that I got for DDO Wants me to download LOTRO. Can't get it to recognize that I already have it "installed".

What i'd rather do is download all current and available updates so I can archive them locally, so I don't have to wait for the launcher/TDM to download it

Ah -- I'm sorry, but this process is not likely to work for you at all. LOTRO needs to be installed legitimately before it will function; it is not possible to simply copy your game build over to a PC or OS that has not already had LOTRO installed. Various files and drivers are registered in the installation process that are absolutely necessary to the game; additionally, LOTRO itself is registered with the computer on installation, and TDM cannot find LOTRO unless the client is already registered with the system.

So, yes, I'm afraid you will need to install LOTRO again through either TDM or the non-TDM installer.

obievil · #6 Nov 19 2009, 02:37 PM

Is there anyway to download the patches post moria locally so I don't have to download them at launch time? Since I have to re-install I'd like to avoid the hours of downloading through the launcher or is the launcher the only way to to do that?

**Alquariel** · #7 Nov 19 2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by obievil

Is there anyway to download the patches post moria locally so I don't have to download them at launch time? Since I have to re-install I'd like to avoid the hours of downloading through the launcher or is the launcher the only way to to do that?

If you use the Turbine Download Manager to install the game, then it will install the current version of the client all at once, rather than installing the release version of Mines of Moria and then patching. You may find this to be somewhat faster. With TDM handling your installation and patching, the launcher should not need to patch at all.

I'm afraid I'm not aware of any way to download the patches locally at this time. Whether you use the launcher or TDM to patch, you will need to patch at some point.

obievil · #8 Nov 19 2009, 02:50 PM

total bummer, but meh... Thanks for your time and responses.

Digero · #9 Nov 19 2009, 03:53 PM

Try installing the non-TDM version of lotro from the DVD--even the SoA DVD should work. Then copy the game files (at least the *.dat files and the raw folder) from the folder that you backed up, into the folder where you installed LotRO. When you run the launcher, it should only need to do minimal patching, if any.

Of course, this doesn't really help if you bought the game using the digital download. If that's the case, you could save yourself some time by downloading the installer for the standard res version, then copying the high res .dat file from your old backed-up installation.

I haven't actually tried either of those myself.. however I have successfully done what you first tried to do (copy the entire installation folder without first installing anything), except I have the non-TDM version. I had to manually install .NET 1.1 for the launcher to work, but after that the launcher installed all of the other pre-reqs itself and the game runs fine.

obievil · #10 Nov 19 2009, 03:56 PM

I already have the entire .net suite installed anyway, addition win7 comes with it installed by default.

but heck that's a great idea. it'd be nice to not have to download hardly any patches. I'll have to do the TDM anyway I'm sure but meh, at least it seems to run faster through the TDM Than it does through the launcher, and I suppose I can do it while I'm at work.

Logmein.com is heavenly.

I'll let you know if your idea works, Trying to get my wife to leave wow and come play so it'll make it easier to install.

Muddyfoot · #11 Yesterday, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Alquariel

Ah -- I'm sorry, but this process is not likely to work for you at all. LOTRO needs to be installed legitimately before it will function; it is not possible to simply copy your game build over to a PC or OS that has not already had LOTRO installed. Various files and drivers are registered in the installation process that are absolutely necessary to the game; additionally, LOTRO itself is registered with the computer on installation, and TDM cannot find LOTRO unless the client is already registered with the system.

So, yes, I'm afraid you will need to install LOTRO again through either TDM or the non-TDM installer.

I kind of disagree with this Alquariel. I'll relate my experience.

About 3 weeks ago I decided to install Win7. I did this on a bare HDD that had been wiped of all data and freshly formated. I had also disconnected all other HDDs so this HDD was connected all on it's own, not as a 2nd HDD. I did my Win7 updates and installed a few programs that I always use such as Eset SS, 7Zip, etc. I had also previously archived a currently patched installation of LotRO on a external USB HDD. I always keep one backup client handy just for such occasion. I do this with WOW as well even though I don't play that anymore.

After my updates for Win7 were done and I had done the other housekeeping, I connected my external drive and dragged my backup LotRO folder over to my fresh Win7 install. I went to the LotRO folder, manually ran the TurbineRegisterGDF.exe a number of times (3 or 4 times) until I got no more errors from it. I then ran Lotro. It had me install the necessary .NET Framework files as well as the VC++ Redistrib. package and that was it. I was ingame and playing.

The whole process of installing Win7 to a fresh HDD to being in LotRO gaming took less than an hour vs. 6-8 hours of freshly installing LotRO and patching up. There's nothing inherantly different about my system than many others out there. I have a Dell with some upgraded Ram and a dedicated vid card plus one additional HDD. One HDD has a Vista install and the other HDD has Win7, both of which were installed as solo drives. When I boot, my boot manager allows me to choose which drive I run.

I've also done a similar install with Win XP Pro on the alternate HDD and I know I'm not the only one that does this. So basically, copying over the LotRO folder method does work and saves a HUGE amount of time. I would recommend to anyone that has a spare drive handy to always keep a copy of the LotRO folder handy as a backup as well as the preferences.ini file from <drive>:\Users\<user name>\Documents\The Lord of the Rings Online.

I'd also point that TDM has been known to cause problems and be somewhat buggy.

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obievil · #12 Yesterday, 01:09 PM

Actually that's similar to what I did, and it worked with win7 as well. the only thing the client downloaded was the C++ Redistribution Binarys... which if Lotro hadn't installed it I would have installed it anyway. I have a .net coding fetish to keep up with :P

But what I did do last night is download TDM and had it download Lotro with patches, so now I have a 10 gig archive that I can install locally from a removal usb HDD instead of needing my DVD's now I can pack up my PC and move in a few months so I can pack my DVD's away and I won't need them instantly if something happens and my PC retains damage in the Move

Persistence is awesome.